Why did Hussie reduce their relationship to abuse?

Why did Hussie reduce their relationship to abuse?

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Too many people wanted them to fuck and it made him look bad. This was him trying to cover his ass.

I still want them to fuck.

Me too ;_;

Guess he failed then.

Thread is already up, broham.

whut

It wasn't abuse, it was training for the literal end of the world that they knew was on their doorstep.

tell that to tumblrinas these days. they used to love the fuck out of bro and now it's the complete opposite.

they are literally father and son both biologically and by raising

Yes. And?

Except it wasn't just tumblrinas, it was Hussie himself as well.

>“In round two of Dave’s strife, he tries to escape from the relentless puppet pummeling, but bro slashes the ABSCOND command, just like he sliced all the other battle commands in round one. The message is clear. Dave can’t escape until he has been dealt the requisite daily helping of domestic abuse, wait I mean ninja training. What did I say there? Nothing. It was nothing. Homestuck is a lighthearted and funny cartoon dealing in highly abstract and stylized household situations, and nothing about it shall evoke the gritty realities experienced every day by real life victims of abuse. Now let’s watch this 30-something year old man pound the daylights out of his adopted 13 year old brother and biological son.”

Was this released before or after toxic masculinity?

What the fuck happened to Hussie? I used to legitimately enjoy his work. Now I'm just depressed.

Huss lost track of his own story.

I prefer thinking of them as brothers.

>What the fuck happened
That book was published way before you think it was.

>John attacks his dad with a hammer while he's trying to bake cakes for his beloved son's birthday
>Rose threatens commiting suicide to her sodden alcoholic (but not physically abusive) Mom
>Jade pretends her stuffed grandfather is alive because she's being raised alone by a fucking dog

>make cool older bro character
>show him acting heroic
>call him abusive
What did Hussie mean by this?

it always was

sheltered kiddos think abuse is only physical abuse but literally everything bro did was seriously fucked up

it's just weird that suddenly it wasnt played for laughs

Blame halftruth and the SJWs who got to his ear

God, it's just amazing how he systematically ruined so many characters one after the other, I've never seen a bigger JUSTing in history

True.

It was always abusive. Sure, Bro was genuinely trying to prepare Dave for Sburb and I don't doubt that deep down he loved the kid like his own son (which he is). But let's not pretend Bro was a great parent or even a good one. I think people miss that a fair bit of Dirk's characterization was meant to drive this point home. Are Bro/Dirk genuinely cool talented dudes whose hearts are in the right place and care deeply about their friends and loved ones? Definitely. But they also (to an extent) are manipulative, creepy, somewhat obsessive, have a tendency to take things too far, and frankly have no business being in charge of a kid. The last of which is something Dirk himself admits before he even knows of how Bro was.
That being said, Hussie's handling of it later in the comic was rather poor. Dave and Rose's home lives are mainly played for laughs until they suddenly aren't, which causes some serious dissonance.

Stupid sexy bro

Yeah nah, trying to suddenly turn around and make all the stuff serious is hamfisted as fuck.

Could have done the exact same thing with Dad, just decide to portray his extreme doting as psychological abuse. It's technically a perspective you could pursu (but it would have also fallen flat).

To surmise, it was shit.

What makes Bro so attractive?

He's enigmatic

He's grounded in reality and full of real world problems

It always bugged me that he suddenly decided to play THAT as being serious and dark out of nowhere when meanwhile none of the kids at any point in time seem the least bit broken up or conflicted at having been at least partially responsible for the annihilation of all life on Earth.

...

Why did Hussie draw Bro making out with his sister?

Remember the good times

For the same reason Dave has so many freudian slips regarding his mother and sister, and for the same reason Eridan and Cronus go on a date together. Andrew Hussie is a very sincere proponent of incest.

Stop posting your art and acting like it was made by Hussie.

It was literally drawn by Hussie, so was this

I wish that when they rebooted to the Alpha session Dirk was literally Bro 2.0, shit got done and he didn't interact with anybody, but for soem reason Roxy knew him inside and out and basically did the exposition for him.

Dirk dragged alot of shit down.

this, all of the kids had weird parents and did video game fights with them, trying to take that seriously is dumb. if you're going to go the "woah bro beat up dave omfg!!!" route then you can't avoid shit like "why was john beating his dad up with a hammer?" and "why was rose stabbing her mom with knitting needles?" It's so fucking dumb, trying to address the abstract video game shit like it's a serious thing.

all of the alpha kids were wasted potential.

Why did he do his best to reduce Jake to the most useless character ever?

Bro and Mom aren't related, ASSHOLE

Added to that, isn't Bro/Dirk gay?

>bro goes from a badass ninja who also happens to be a weirdo to an abusive maniac

I still can't wrap my head around this.

The funny thing is I know a few people who were on the fence about shipping Dave and Bro before it was revealed he was 'abusive' and after decided it was all okay because 'welp, Bro is abuse, not like if he's makin on him it'll change anything'

What is it with this series and selectively making certain relationships melodramatically abusive while Vriska can fuck with a disabled kid?

Super early bro fanart

Favoritism, nothing new.

There's nothing wrong about shipping Dave and Bro either way.

Normally I'm not fond of incestuous shipping, but why is this ship in particular so hot?

Was it ever revealed how the kids' guardians knew they were going to play the game or was that another plot point that was completely forgotten about?

I have no fucking clue, I'm also not really into incest as a rule, but I can't help myself when it comes to Stridercest.

Because it objectively was. His bro beat the shit out of him, hid the food, filled the house with dangerous weapons, and constantly exposed him to weird puppet fetish porn.

Nobody can resist bro

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Because you have good taste.
>New Homestuck fans will never know how popular this fucking ship was

>meanwhile shipping Gamzee/Karkat and it's such an unpopular ship

Back in the day it wasn't, man. Gamzee and Tavros were a big couple too. Hussie really blew it with Gamzee's character later on.

And Karkat's too.

This should have been a canon ship. Two bro's just going with the flow

Hussie reduced his comic to just being bad.

BUMP

At least Bro's abuse is a bit excusable because he always beat the shit out of Dave, but what was the point of Gamzee becoming an asshole? I remember him being the most popular troll among the many homestuckfags at my art school. Does Hussie hate people liking his shit?

I thought the killing spree was ok, since it was a funny idea that he'd become murderous when sober. However, I wish his Moiraillance with Karkat had worked out and he'd remained mellow after that.

Because Homestuck was always meant to be a comedy. Dave and Bro's relationship was abusive because it was funny. John and Rose thought they had problems with their parents who were TRYING to be nice to them by giving them cake and such, but Dave put his bro on a pedestal despite Bro being basically a psychopath who treats him like shit.

The alphas aren't actually related, they're the parents of the betas

I miss the old Hussie, lone wolf Hussie
Sex with hand Hussie, 2 in the morning fap Hussie
I hate the new Hussie, the Elliot Roger Hussie
The always stalking Hussie, no news about his girlfriend Hussie
I miss the beardless Hussie, virgin artist Hussie

I wish he was the only thing I miss.
what happened to the fandom hurts the most.

Why do Internet fanbases love incest so much? Do people really wish they had a hot sibling they could fuck?

Same reason incest porn seems to be climbing higher on porn sites. What that reason is, I don't have a clue

I guess this is the new thread. Anybody want me to draw you a troll waifu/husbando based of that buzzfeed personality quiz.

Well, I sure hope not. Personally, there are only few incest ships I like, one of them being Stridercest. And I find the thought of incest in real life pretty disgusting, unless it happens unknowingly.

Fuck off, this is not "the new thread".

Could you do Aquiborn?
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No. I stay here and draw sexy shit.

Alright.

Why can't you just make your own thread?? This is not a general thread.

This is not reddit to do multiple threads, nigga.

High chance of Mod deletion, besides this thread's actual topic is pretty dead anyways.

that's pretty good. mind doing a waifu for Caprio?

What happened to Hussie? I never really followed him, I just knew Homestuck started to turn to shit once he started pandering to tumblr-SJWs and queerbating wasn't just done for humor anymore. Did he get a GF-puppetmaster or something?

Aye me too pls

If they Hussie wanted to make a statement on abuse he shouldn't have done it with puppet asses.

Looks like a butt.

Go crazy

That was just a joke.

I was mostly annoyed with Dave suddenly becoming traumatized and depressed.

Before Act 6, the whole point was Bro was messed up but Dave didn't realize and thought he was awesome.

He did have like, 3 years to meditate on that

That explains why he realized Bro wasn't totally awesome like he thought, but it wouldn't suddenly make him become depressed.

Also the peanut allergy "prank".

Not to mention that it's okay when Vriska is abusive, since she's so awesome and all, but when Bro is (initially it was pretty much a joke anyway) it's suddenly all serious and we're talking about child abuse and trauma.

Then literally all the other guardians were abusive too

Where's John's mental breakdown as he finally realized his Dad had been forcing his sick feeder fetish onto him and groomed him to be a living sugar receptacle

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They were, but for some reason Hussie only cared about Bro and Gamzee being abuse in the end.

His girlfriend was a cunt and they started dating when HS was pumping the most pages per day. She got in charge of What Pumpkin.
Then he met Shelby, a real cunt who drew some art for homestuck and the merch.
He made the kickstarter despite not finishing the comic, his girlfriend is implied to have incentivized him.
He worked on Namco High despite not finishing the comic either. It flopped.
He changed a joke in Homestuck and some racial stuff because tumblr complained.
His best friend became a joke after working on Squirrel Girl and now spends more time on twitter than writing.
He and some friends defended [REDACTED] on twitter during the gaymergate fiasco.
Cohen, loosely related to Namco High's flop, became the lead writer. Nobody likes him.
Then he deleted his old comics, social media and the official forums.
His previous employees are under a NDA and pretend their jobs never happened.
The infamous toxic masculinity speech happened.
He dumped his girlfriend and we thouhgt all would be brighter but then recommended Shelby's ugly comic on the site.
One year later we learn he was dating Shelby's sister in secret.

Hussie has a fate worse than death and we try to save what's left of him.

I think it's sort of like what's happening in Japan but slower, people who spend all their time on the internet are gradually become more and more afraid to approach women.

As that happens, it makes sense that the fantasy would become more and more centered on women who never had a choice but to be connected to you, i.e. family members.

>The infamous toxic masculinity speech happened.
Can you tell me more about this?

I'd forgotten about Terezi and Gamzee's abusive relationship. What a shitshow.

To be fair I had no idea what to do with Terezi's character after Act 5

I felt like the comic was going to shit before the kickstarter. How long before that did he start to date?

Act 6 was full of dips in quality, but its fate as an irredeemable disaster wasn't set in stone until the kickstarter etched it in.

John changed 4 years of Homestuck's plot by time travel and Dave and Karkat were suddenly together, just because Vriska was alive. Then he talked about masculinity expectations and how Bro was an abuser in a very nonsensical way.
We thought the ending was part of some big red herring but nope it was all played straight and not ghostwritten. The author even had to confirm outside the comic the pairing was canon.

Fucking terrible, I was so angry when Vriska came back.

>time travel
magic retconning