I finally saw it and it was so good. Easily my favorite Pixar movie now. Coco thread

I finally saw it and it was so good. Easily my favorite Pixar movie now. Coco thread

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I liked it (though my enjoyment was severely hampered by the fact there was a baby behind me crying the entire movie, the mom didn't take it out til literally the last 20 minutes of the damn thing)

I thought it was good, but I wouldn't put it in my top 5. I thought the climax was too predictable. The scene with the wife dancing and singing while avoiding the grunts was pretty clever, but I kinda wish the finale hadn't gone to violence, a chase scene, and the villain getting killed by his own idiocy. I'm not some SJW, I liked how violent the Incredibles was. I just felt it clashed with the vibe of the rest of the movie. Like they felt they just needed a villain to hate, I was a bit dissappointed when it turned out Ernesto poisoned the other guy and turned out to just be evil.

It probably helped that I had pretty low expectations going in, but I thought it was fantastic.
Ernesto being the villain was a little predictable, but the other twist was great.
Damn movie made me cry twice.

Oh, I definitely thought it was good. I enjoyed it, I might try to see it at a time with less children at some point, I'd probably enjoy it even more then. Even without the baby, there was a lot of noise.

I...made a miscalculation on how to see it. I was doing a double feature and decided for the second movie, coco, I'd try the amc's theaters that serve food during the movie. Aside from the fact that the theater they served food in was nothing like the adverts (no tables attached to your chair, instead there was a table across from you, but you really had to lean forward to reach it, my knees didn't even go under it) and all the food and cups with ice and silverware made for a lot of extra noise. I saw Justice League first, thinking "I'll watch the worse movie first, then wash my mouth out with the better movie second" Afterwards, I realized I should have seen Coco first at 3 when there wouldn't have been so many children probably

>climax was too predictable
It's almost impossible to write a solid movie without a lot of predictable elements. Otherwise your story would be too incoherent.

But they could have created a climax that didn't fall into a chase sequence that kids movies apparently have to have.

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>maybe three good lewds of Miguel on the internet and the rest probably on some tabao chatroom in china

Queen

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Anyone else really like the way the dog was animated? Looked like a gross sausage, but it was still kinda cute

Yeah I couldn't get over how disgusting the dog looked but it was weirdly charming
Like no matter how awful he looked he was still a good boy

The movie was so tightly-written too. It had lots of cliches, but they were used just right

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you should be ashamed of yourself for that post

I just saw it today too, I loved it. It's not my favorite Pixar movie and I did have a few issues with the writing being a bit predictable, but the plot twists were actually really well done and it had a TON of emotional weight. I openly cried both times Remember Me was played for Coco. It was a great story with a fantastic setting, superb animation, and a great message about family.

Movie had me in a constant stream of tears for like 10 minutes at the end. Last movie that did that was Kubo and that's high praise cause Kubo is one of my favorite movies.

On that note, just like Kubo, this movie did a good job of taking these familiar story beats and elements and employing them in such a way that it shows you that there's still goodness to be mined from any trope.

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The Incredibles > Toy Story > Toy Story 2 > Monsters Inc. > Coco > Ratatouille > WALL-E > Toy Story 3 > Inside Out > Finding Nemo > Up > Brave > Finding Dory > A Bug's Life > The Good Dinosaur > Monsters University > Cars > Cars 3 > Cars 2

>though my enjoyment was severely hampered by the fact there was a baby behind me crying the entire movie, the mom didn't take it out til literally the last 20 minutes of the damn thing
That's when you get theater staff involved, you should've complained to them about a shitty parent not attending to their child that's obviously not happy about something.

Also, how did you handle the shitty Frozen "short" in your showing? I won't watch Coco until theaters get smart and remove it from future showings.

Pretty good. Had all the elements to that make old Pixar movies so great - awesome characters, good design and visuals, emotions and gay shit most people can relate to on some level. Miguel might be my favorite Pixar MC so far.
It got very cliche near the end though but that's forgivable. Still their best movie in a very long time.

>Kubo is one of my favorite movies
Opinion disregarded then.

yeah, it was refreshing to see something that good after this lineup of stinkers that began with Brave.

it could be little more visually distinctive though.
what's next apart unnecessary Toy Story sequel?

I knew the short was coming and that it was long but I wasn't prepared for how bad it really was. 20 minutes of these ugly, bland characters dicking around, unfunny jokes, a lazy lesson and the most generic songs. It was hell. I kept begging for it to be over but they kept singing, holy fuck.

A little girl asked her dad when Coco was finally going to start about halfway through, kek.

>What is Inside Out

predictable borefest.

>oh no, an island is collapsing!

FIVE TIMES!

so bad even kids hate it

Being that butthurt about a short seems pretty-
>20 minutes
Oh.

Protip:its your favorite now, because it's the last one you saw, next one doesn't even need to be better, you just need to forget the feelings of the previous one

I felt this way too - the scene where Frida asks Miguel if her show metaphors were too obvious and he says "ehhh it's, like, the right amount obvious?" Or something like that...i was scared of how aware they are of their own writing being cliche but like...in a palatable way?

Yeah, that's why I don't plan on seeing Coco anytime soon. The tragic thing is that Olaf's Frozen Adventure was SUPPOSED to be a TV holiday special, but it was attached to Coco when it became to "Too cinematic" for television.

What a load of horseshit, Disney just tacked on Frozen because they have no faith in the film.

more because they wanted to sell more frozen merch.

or both

Saw the Spanish dub and it was wonderful. Especially the music.

Olaf pooed a cake jajajaja

I'm glad they kept the mexican dub in Spain

The Spanish VA for Miguel can sing so much better
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Why is the advertising so coy about divulging any kind of plot? Like The Good Dinosaur? Is Pixar ashamed to market it? Did Book of life beat them to the punch? Is this Newt all over again?

So, did they rip off the Book of Life or not?

Both them have to go back

Nah, Wall-e is still way better than inside out

and did they rip grim fandango ?

2019, I think.

Partially. The whole "I want to be a musician
but my family won't let me!" plot is there.
It's played very differently since it doesn't
have a primary romance story like Book of Life did

>Gee, I wonder how I can race bait today
>Other moviegoers are upset that the Olaf short was paired with Coco in the first place. As we know, Frozen is a story of all white characters (plus a snowman and a reindeer). Coco is a beautiful tale that celebrates people of color and Latnix culture. The jarring juxtaposition of goofy Olaf and the Frozen world was not sitting well with many audiences.
>The majority of Disney and Pixar shorts tend to be about 10 minutes. The Olaf short is over twice as long. It is no secret that Disney tends to focus primarily on white stories. By removing the Olaf short, they are doing the right thing: Celebrating Coco as the inclusive film it is. It doesn’t seem fair to play a story focused on white characters before a movie that celebrates Latinx culture.
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To be fair, coming from someone that likes Frozen, that short was shit.

I didnt like Frozen and hate the thought of having to watch 20 min of it

Liked it, but had a few serious issues:

When Miguel said "I'm related to Delacruz!" in front of his family, why didn't anyone say "no you're not"?

Also, Imelda was *literally* willing to let Miguel die (stay in the land of the dead) because of her selfish conditions.

And was Imelda really that butthurt if Hector was sending letters back to her and Coco regularly? Did she not know how he died?

>When Miguel said "I'm related to Delacruz!" in front of his family, why didn't anyone say "no you're not"?

Coco was the only living person who knew because Imelda tore the head off of the portrait.

Wtf its latnix?

I still put Monsters Inc. and The Incredibles higher, but Coco is definitely my 3rd favorite now. The movie was visually stunning.

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I went to see Coco yesterday. They were playing it at the crappy theatre in my city here in western Canada, not the nice one where all the other Pixar & Disney shows are normally shown. Attendance has dropped off since release day (never full theatres but first weekend was the busiest); they've dropped the 3D shows to once/day; weekdays they only have less than a dozen people/paying. Theatre was about 25% full in the middle of the day when I went (sunday). Theatre capacity ~150.

Only 6 minutes of previews before the Olaf short, which was received positively. The crowd appeared to enjoy it immensely as the short was funny. During Coco the crowd was silent, no laughs or anything. I heard one kid say he wanted to go home. People even laughed & then cheered at The Incredibles 2 teaser, the first time i've witnessed that. Lots of anticipation for it!

As for Coco, that's the first Pixar movie i've ever seen where I was totally underwhelmed by the story & the visuals. It just went on & on.. I thought it wouldn't end. The story failed to move me emotionally; the city scene looked poorly done even though b4 the movie they showed how they built it & stated there are 8 million coloured lights in it. It looked like a bunch of boxes with xmas lights. Big let down. The scene in Monsters Inc where Mike is hanging from the door suspended way up, & city night scenes in "Rio" were way better visually. They gave a feel of immensity, Coco sadly did not.

While I won't say the movie is bad (i've seen worse), I went into it thinking I was going to see another Pixar great judging by all the comments I've seen here. It wasn't even close. I suspect this movie only resonates with those culturally connected.

Anyways, this was my experience with the usuall YMMV disclaimer.

Apparently "Latino" is sexist.

BOL did this shot much better,much worse movie,but had a very distinctive visual style. something modern pixar is lacking.

Huh. The theatres here aren't pulling the Olaf short. Maybe because we're lucky enough that we have almost nil latin American population. But a buddy who runs one theatre suspects it's mainly because of declining viewers that they have nothing to replace it with, and certainly can't afford to put another daily screening when the other ones are very lightly attended.

latinx and latin@ is just a way to be inclusive to nonbinary people

What is it with latino boys and red hoodies?

i dont think its that common

I groaned the very moment they started singing in the short, partly because some part of me was thinking they're trying to promote some sort of Christmas CD and strike gold like "Let it Go", and the other part of me knew this would be long as fuck. Plus it was just jarring to have a Christmas themed short play for 20 minutes right before a movie regarding the Day of the Dead, and that's ignoring the additional fact that the Frozen short was just bad.

As God as my witness, I fucking hate those accents. :-P

Have other Pixar films featured shorts that were based on other movies? I feel thats the second reason why I hated it.

shorts are made inbetween movies,this was a tv special

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Not religious enogh.

agrreed

Hector lewds when

The real life breed are total qts as well.

Nope. I haven't loved a Pixar movie this much since Ratatouille.

How do I get a latina gf?

I didn't like them at first but I'm ok with them now

Give it time, my good man.

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i-it's like petting a penis...

hairless animals are awesome

you'd like that wouldn't you

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Someone has to make a skeleton character version of sweaty, or the main one

Go to Latin America

>drinking ANY kind of beer
Fucking disgusting.
Why don't you drink sour piss while you're at it too, mate?
Fucking god damn Murricans.

>want to buy a hairless cat
>they're significantly more expensive than even other purebred cats
Why tho?

it wasn't just literally The Book Of Life?

>t. woman

My favorite Pixar movie will always be Toy Story 3 but Coco was definitely their best in years. The twist was obvious but still touching when it finally happened.

because you want it. Because a lot of people want them.

>When Miguel said "I'm related to Delacruz!" in front of his family, why didn't anyone say "no you're not"?
Because no one knew. Grandma talked about how they never spoke of him, and we saw that no one knew what great granddad looked like because their only picture of him was torn.

I'm not ready to go full-brazlian; I'd rather get a werewolf cat.

>My penis is determined by drinking piss like my dad did and told me to do
How insecure and castrated can you be?

>werewolf cat
Yo this thing is rad, didn't even know it existed. It sort of reminds me of an aye-aye

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Desert = Red/Orange colors

Just consistent coloring and theme

>I'm not some SJW
>violence in cartoons is now an SJW issue
What the fuck?

My problem with including the Frozen short is how obvious the reasoning is behind it; most shorts are 11 mins shorter and are something original cooked up by Pixar so it must be executive meddling to get the audience Coco would scare away. As someone of Mexican descent, this didn't offend me, but I just took it as a marketing move that may be unfortunately necessary. They had to choose between releasing the short as a separate DVD they could cash in on for the holidays or giving it away as part of the Coco ticket, and found the latter for profitable for some reason.

>it's not alright to like what you like
>only Americans drink beer
This is some pretty good bait.

>Frozen short is being removed from Coco
Looks like I might go and see Coco after all

Good catch, user

This is respectable, but put Finding Dory behind Cars 3 and move Monsters U up a lil

No you tastes is just shit
Nobody cares about Book of Life and nobody will stop pushing it

>make a cartoon or cgi movie about Hispanic culture
>it's literally always about Lucha libre or death

My grand uncle owned some, even by dog standards they are loyal as fuck.

Ill never forget how they refused to budge from the place they used to sit with my grand uncle, they laid there for 6 years after he died almost as if they were waiting for him to come back.

Although I don't truly agree with the idea that a Frozen short right before Coco somehow undermines the inclusive message, I agree with the sentiment here. It's fucking annoying to have to wait 20 minutes to watch the movie you actually paid to watch, no matter how original or new the short is. And if you were indiferent/didn't like Frozen, is even worse. I find great they're removing the short.

Because Dia de Muertos and luchadores are fucking huge parts of Mexican culture.