Is this the absolute worst, unredeemable event in cape comics history?
It basically single-handedly ruined the Ultimate universe, rendering it unretconnable unless writers meddled with the base foundations of the Ultimate universe which was "never retcon major events".
And god, I wish they'd broken the rule, just this one time, because it's so fucking shitty. It's so god awfully shitty.
>he didn't enjoy seeing Janet get eaten out
What a fag
Yes.
Personally I would say all of Inhumans vs X-men
Nah, I love this event.
I liked that it made JJJ see Spidey as a cool guy. That was neat, but that was about all.
It's shit, but at least it set up the Evil Reed saga, which is pretty fun.
It only fuckd up the Ultimate universe, so whatever.
Identity Crisis shat hard on regular DC.
>all of Millar's edgy fucks are killed
Nah, this event was great
AvX and IvX were both garbage, but they didn't shit on 616 anywhere near as hard as Ultimatum shat on Ultimate.
Still, most people care more about 616 than they did about Ultimate, so the perceived impact might be bigger.
>Marvel
Original Sin
>DC
Identity Crisis and Countdown
Civil War ruined the Marvel Universe. It created a trend that completed annihilated any chance of Marvel not fucking themselves over.
Ultimatum wasd GOAT because it showed just how puny and pathetic we humans are, in comparison to the forces of nature. Even super-powered humans. We all are just dust. Of couse, stupid retarded autists will never understand the beauty and truth of this concept, all they want are fucking power fantasies.
It was already ruined. The universe had this shit coming
Well remembered. Missed civil war, but yeah, original sin was made to shit on Marvel in general with retcons, it's bizarre.
Ultimate Universe was crap anyway
Civil War fucked regular MU though.
In my opinion, yes. And I've read some shit. But this is on a whole other level.
That, it did. But Identity Crisis went out of its way to ruin DC.
Apparently it's a common discussion hre on which did more damage to its respective univere.
Identity Crisis made the entire Justice League complicit in mind-raping one of their leaders and causing the whole "Batman mistrusts everyone" trope for years to come.
>Is this the absolute worst, unredeemable event in cape comics history?
Yes. Even worse than Secret Wars II, Civil War II or The Crossing.
Ding Ding Ding. Original Sin was a disaster.
At least Ultimatum had the right idea. Just poorly executed.
I liked the main story
Why?
Fun character interactions, lots of good twists, and I love The Orb
its not that it wrecked ultimate universe, like some anons already said, it was just atrocious in execution
its a stinking pile of horseshit, laziness and stupidity as far as writing and editing goes
coincidentally, just before ultimatum, wildstorm had its own world shattering event, number of the beast, with World's End line-wide storyline emerging as a result
the basic idea was that it only takes for the heroes to fail once for the world to crash and burn
just once to be a little to late
so the world got fucked hard, apocalyptic shit, none of this ultimatum pussy wave, and that became the status quo
i wonder why people never talk about it
i cant be the only one who loved it
>had the right idea
The idea was just "kill everyone." What was right about that?
Jason, go home.
It's too bad Loeb's kid died.