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Spider Gwen poole.

Based Marvel

do they call Gwen "Ghost Spider" in the comics?

>secret warriors
>having Carol instead Karnak
>making quake a kid

No, it is spiderwoman.

>Marvel continues to ignore its fanbase and all its criticisms, running itself further into the ground
Why the fuck do they do this? It hurts them financially, but they couldn't give less of a fuck. They KNOW what they're doing isn't the best for the company, but they continue to do it anyway.

This should be Avengers Arena 2, except they all die in the end

why is lockjaw there? like as a mascot?

Why are you so salty? How is this different from Big Hero 6?

Stop being a SJW

What did fans want?

I have no interest in any of these characters.

probably having him run around with Kamala

>still trying to push the shitHumans
Will Ike give up once the fox deals hits?

No unless you bring some legacy characters for the X-Men

>in before O5
I seriously hope not

They are complaining about not having white heroes and sjw crap.

>over twenty x-men comics coming out in January
>still complaining about Inhumans being a cartoon you werent going to watch

doesn't the avenger cartoon still exist, and spidey and his friends. Not sure about the gotg cartoon.

>making Inferno's skin brown-ish so people don't realise he's just some white guy
>Secret Warriors despite only 3 of them having ever been associated with the Secret Warriors
>Patriot despite only having like 6 comic appearances total
>teen team yet still has Carol
>renaming Spider-gwen to Ghost-Spider, giving her Gwen Poole's hair and ruining her costume in the process via unnecessary over-designing
>making Squirrel Girl chubby
>giving Quake colored hair because she's half-asian and they need people to know that
>using Bendis' OC Accuser as the villain
I mean, nothing Marvel Animation is putting out is anything but trash, regardless of what characters they're using, so even if this was just "straight white males: the team" it wouldn't make it any better, but there's just a lot of... questionable decisions here.

There's plenty of white heroes in their other shows. Are you watching their other shows?

Yep, the GotG cartoon is also still around.

Man, it's not even an inhumans show. Of the 9 people on the team, only 4 of them are inhumans and one of those 4 is a dog.

It lets them make toys for the barbie aisle that dads who won't admit they wanted a boy will buy in a desperate attempt to connect.

> no particular set of expectations hanging over most of these characters or their portrayals
> good voice casting (Raver, Vayntrub, Wen, Baker)

Do we really need another fucking Avengers cartoon iteration? Is it like Batman where people lose their shit if there isn't a currently running version at any given moment?

> all these legacy heroes
This isn't about pushing diversity. This is about pushing characters who are part of the royalties system (excepting Carol) Shooter instituted. They just make them minorities so you aren't allowed to bitch about writers intentionally displacing characters they don't get royalties for writing. THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE AT MARVEL AND TO A LESSER EXTENT DC BECAUSE IT'S WHAT ATTRACTS WRITERS TO WORK FOR THEM.

People got piss about using the diverse and thinking it is sjw crap. I mean look at the youtube comments.

>Do we really need another fucking Avengers cartoon iteration?
You say that as if the current Avengers cartoon isn't going to continue. This is happening alongside the Avengers cartoon, the Spider-man cartoon and the GotG cartoon.

I agree that getting upset at this is profoundly stupid and crying "waah waah SJW!" over it is even stupider, but that doesn't mean I don't have a number of serious reservations over this.

>I mean look at the youtube comments.

Avengers cartoon is turning into a stealth Black Panther cartoon

>and thinking it is sjw crap
for the record Marvel went full "relatability" with Peter Parker and the X-Men. This is and continues to be how the company chooses to brand itself as somehow different from "all the other" cape book publishers. The Marvel years of "we're here to tell good stories" (i.e. DC's editorial) unsurprisingly came under Shooter, who was trained to write stories AT DC.

>that doesn't mean I don't have a number of serious reservations over this
So do I but like GotG the general public will probably eat this shit up because it's neophyte-friendly. It doesn't have a reputation to live up to even at the individual character level and that was as intentional as possible here. Carol and the fucking dog are the only characters older than 10 years here and both are notable for heavily inconsistent characterization. Not a coincidence.

And the twitter comments too, Sup Forums comments.

>The Marvel years of "we're here to tell good stories" unsurprisingly came under Shooter, who was trained to write stories AT DC.
Once again, Marvel owes its existence to DC.

RIP DC's Shittygarbage Girls

>Carol and the fucking dog are the only characters older than 10 years
and squirrel girl. Marvel always forgets the existence of teen heroes that weren't recently created.

>twitter comments

>Marvel owes its existence to DC
Marvel historically is a company that has great PR and fucking disastrous financials prior to the Disney acquisition. Until Shooter took over it was borderline profitable but the parent publisher was bleeding that money into shitty lurid money-losing newsstand pulps. After Shooter the company slid into bankruptcy and had to sell its children to movie studios and itself to a fucking toy company to exist and that was AS MARKET LEADER.

I say good man do you need any more disparaging reaction images, you seem dependent on them as a form of discourse in lieu of actual commentary

>Carol and the fucking dog are the only characters older than 10 years
Squirrel Girl was created in '91. Gwen Stacy was created in '65. Quake was created in '04. Tippy-Toe was created in '05 (at least I'm assuming that's Tippy-Toe. If it's Monkey Joe then he's from '91). So that's half of the roster being older than 10 years.

The point remains that even Spider-Gwen qualifies as an original character and potentially under the royalties system. Carol and the dog are the exceptions. You are going to continue to see more and more of those newer characters pushed because the writers behind them get paid for their appearances. You can fucking bet your bottom dollar that within a year or less Bendis is going to start introducing new characters in whatever books he writes at DC for the same reason.

Maybe put less credence on what some literally whos on the cancerous cesspools that are YouTube and Twitter think and instead try to think for yourself for a change. You seem dependent on having your thoughts need to be reaffirmed by literal children and mentally deficient individuals, and that's a fairly unhealthy lifestyle to lead.

It's like carbon offsets, except it's Social Injustice offsets.

So they use their least profitable outlets (comics, cartoons) to buy Social Justice points, as many as possible. They don't care if anyone buys them; they exist to allow their actual revenue streams (movies) to remain profitable (dominated by straight white male characters, the only proven sellers) while still allowing them to claim they have moral high ground.

>Spider-Gwen qualifies as an original character and potentially under the royalties system
Ignoring the fact that Marvel's royalties system can be summed up as "almost completely fucking non-existent," no "Gwen Stacy" isn't an original character. Just because she's from an alternate universe where she has super-powers doesn't suddenly not make her Gwen Stacy anymore than, say, New 52 Lois Lane's stint as Superwoman makes her a different character from post-crisis Lois Lane.

>he said, posting the same images from his "no u" folder
I agree that both of those places are cesspits btw, I'm just taking your piss here

Nigga, this shit is for little girls
It's the equivalent of getting pissed off at DC Superhero Girls
You motherfuckers do know Marvel has other problems aside from SJWs right?

But I am already thinking by myself. If you don't like my opinion, that's your problem.

Why are you getting mad at me? I just saying what it is.

>no u folder
I'll have you know that that's from my "not this shit again" folder.

Then give me your opinion and back it up with your own reasoning. Don't just go "w-well *youtube/twitter/tumblr/facebook/reddit/whatever social media site is currently trendy* said..." If I gave a fuck about what the people on those sites thought then I'd be on those sites. As I am not, clearly I don't.

And why would Sup Forums comments be better than YT's or Twitter's?

Why is she called Ghost Spider?

>Why does Marvel ignore what I want to see in childrens' cartoon?

Because the only good CIS white is a dead CIS white.

Because this is a product aimed at normies, particularly young normies, where "gwen" has precisely zero currency.

The Token Avengers
The Guardians of Diversity

> "The new generation of Marvel Superheroes!"

Avengers Academy says Hi
Victor Alvarez and Ava Ayala says Hi
Young Allies says Hi
Young Avengers says Hi

X-Men fans have been reading about the hunted and persecuted mutants for so long, when they finally got the chance to play the part they went all in.

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There's no names or accounts attached so it isn't some big performance piece? Besides that, even if the comments aren't necessarily "better," this is the community I choose to associate with so I at least somewhat care (at least, marginally more so than those other sites) what the people on it think.

I'll at least give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're only pretending to be retarded as opposed to ACTUALLY retarded.

Her superhero name is "Spider-woman" not Spider-gwen. Spider-gwen is just her out-of-universe name to differentiate her from Jessica Drew.

>gets butthurt like a YT or Twitter user
QED

I don't think Dante can fly

>Ghost Spider?

Because its an actual superhero name as opposed to Spidergwen

He can't, but he also isn't that dark and doesn't have that costume. So I don't think they were aiming for comic accuracy. I think Kamala is the only one with no changes. I guess they didn't want America wearing booty shorts.

Kamala's shoes are different. Instead of wearing her boots, she's just wearing normal sneakers.

Marvel changes the names of Gwen and Miles (to Kid Arachnid) in products aimed at kids like toys and cartoons so they don't have to explain why there's 2 Spider-Men and Spider-Women.

Nah

Strings would be better named.

This cartoon is already doomed from start while DC girls is already making several millions and RISING.

marlel sjw trash is set to one season.

Don't forget about the New X-Men. If we beg long enough, surely they will come back

porn comments are better to be honest, and often of literary value, ive seen some innocent improvised poetry from men with badly irrigated brains because most of their blood had gone to their dick.

now you have to share with the class

Kamala's got a little design on her scarf too

>American progshits claim Speedy Gonzales is racist
>Shove America Chavez as the "latino" rep in their pandershow
I always suspected the left hates mexicans.

Spider-Man, Iron-Man and Captain America is merchandise sales are anything to go by.

Would be nice to have another Avengers cartoon that isn't shit.

They need to cancel AA tho.

Nope, Superhero girls is going strong, this at most will be Agents of Smash.

SO DIVERSE! 99% queer, 1 retard, 1 male, and all shit.

I'm fine with this team but what the hell is that symbol? It's like to make a s and a sideways w at the same time but it just looks weird

I think there's a bit of an R in there too

Aren't Secret Warrior's like Fury's team? WTF.

should have used Naja or iso instead of Inferno

Hell I'd even take Grid the smug asshole

I love it. Comics need more diversity and completely unrelated to that, less white people

>twitter.com/marvel/status/938847023842734080
Oooh I thought this was a comic at first. "Let's try everything that clearly doesn't sell". But animated shows are a whole other nature. Alright, sure, fine. Seems playful enough, nice concepts, nice voice actors...for an animated show, it could be much worse. Status: Not triggered

That's Sup Forums complaining about that. They're the guys that want more whites and less sjw. Prove me wrong though

>Gwenpool dies in two issues
>her hair is immediately given to Gwen Stacy

>Stop complaining about Star Wars having a female main character! Disney bought Marvel so they can make movies and tv shows that appeal more to males. Just watch one of those things.

I call it "The GamerGate Effect". You flamebait people into accidently giving you lots of viral advertising. Causing controversy for rates/sales/etc. isn't new, but what is new is being able to be morally untouchable for it. You're stirring shit up with tokenism on steroids, but who's going to call you out on it? The unpopular assholes who keep going "nigger" this and "Jew" that?

Here's the problem, though: Visiting Kotaku or Polygon is free, comics aren't. The only people being advertised to are the same people they keep provoking. Who the fuck is going to buy something they don't want just to get angry about it? Especially when the flamebait is right there, on the cover, for everyone to see for free?

I like how Inferno and Quake are bland as fuck since they decided to come up with new designs instead of tweaking existing ones.

>America Chavez outside her containment book
Repeat after me, Sup Forums:
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>Inferno and not Robbie
Reeeeeeee

It's aimed at girls, Inferno was a mistake.

>Stop complaining about Star Wars having a female main character! Disney bought Marvel so they can make movies and tv shows that appeal more to males.

If you can't enjoy something because it has a female lead that's your own problem.

I have no idea how people who think like this function. Do you need a white guy lead in everything you watch or your head will explode? Who gives a fuck?

The fuck is this again?

>Who gives a fuck?
Angry white males that watch children's shows. The kids themself don't care

>no Sam Nova
>no Gwenpool
>no Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider
Fuck this shit. Pander to me for once. Fuck you MARVEL.

>no Gwenpool
"Wow that was a really terrible commercial wasn't it"

Hey, if they can find a reliable female fandbase then more power to them. I'll even wish them good luck... because I think they'll need it.

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>If you can't enjoy something because it has a female lead that's your own problem.

Ding. Ding. This. Oldfag here, was teen in 1990s and it was the age of Daria and Lara Croft, both snarky and feisty and often shown defeating male characters and yet... super popular with both genders.

This thing with grown men hating on gril heroes now is insane. Do these guys know how insecure they look?

>Do these guys know how insecure they look
they have 2 boards of their own now (/r9k/ and Sup Forums)