I thought it was a meme, a joke, but Marvel seems to actually shun, condemn, and harass some of their fanbase (even long-time comic readers).
What's going on with Marvel? Are they aware of what they're doing, or are they doing this thinking it's the right thing to do?
Marvel is on the "controversy = sales" model
Nerds are a small market.
What's a bigger market?
Normies
Gul basuraka nik zur be over the hills and far away with a pickle.
Your answer is in there, you have five minutes to find it or this thread will explode.
Where are they attacking fans? Show me.
Because their nad we didnt take their sudden turn into soapbox virtue signalling in the ass like good submissive fans, and instead we spoke up and stop buying their comics. Now their sales are tanking and SJWs dont buy comics, so they put the blame on us. Nazicap was literally spencer trying to enrage fans by saying all the classic heros are inherently secretly evil. Fuck marvel, im not buying from them till they get their shit together
The allure of mutual dicksucking provided by sjw types taking hold among creators realizing they work in an increasingly irrelevant medium with no way out due to their own incompetence, for one.
What that guy said.
Normies ain't gonna pick up a comic book, those of us that do are a pretty niche group sadly.
At first, it was Brevoort being a stupid fat cunt saying that pissing people off made them sell a lot more, that ended up biting them right back in their asses. Then they tried to appeal to sjw's, leftists, progressives and feminists by making all characters a bunch of soapboxes for their idiotic ideological bullshit that made all the characters hypocrites or downright evil for being one thing or the other and replacing a lot of beloved character with minorities (only a couple of them ended up being good, the rest are plain shit that just angers everyone).
Now, whenever people say something about Marvel Comics they simply shrug and say that they no longer care or they are too pissed about their creative decisions to care about them.
Anger DID lead to apathy and there is no saving them now.
t. special snowflake
Marvel apparently doesn't chastise unruly creators who get into flame wars with fans.
Bemis, writer of Moon Knight, told the anti-SJW he hated them and for them to "eat his ass."
Routinely people who work there belittle the audience and attack their perspectives and POVs with no respect.
Repeatedly calling individuals misogynists for disagreeing with their virtue signaling, and bigots for disagreeing with Marvel's token characters.
They've (I believe Mark Waid) has even told people to not buy his work.
Regardless of how you feel about those people, it's not a good look. Could you imagine going into a store and getting into a flame war with an employee and he tells you he doesn't want your money and that he hates you?
Could you imagine someone flatly saying you aren't shit because your skin looks a certain way or you just happened to have a dick?
You'd be fired the first time you did that but this has been going on for months.
Artists intrinsically liberal. You can't have a conservative artist
All this combined. Just give up Marvel. They have nothing worth your attention right now anyway.
Too bad casuals don't care about Tumblr-politics either. They should be looking what the movie department is doing if they want to attract mainstream audience.
Im liberal and i hate feminism and shit characters like riri. These are just colege trust fund babys, not true liberals. Theyd be too lazy to even live in a world were socialism exsist because then theyd have to be better writers of get replaced
What if people started to just spread "Marvel is for fags"? I mean it is, why not label it as such?
implying the future won't be right wing artists.
Well, the prominant cases resonate with the youtuber "Diversity&comics" where people have done the typical Stalk/harass/threaten thing (It doesn't really bother him though).
Another incident is where they attacked trump-supporting readers, and threw lables at them.
There's many more examples that slip my mind, I stopped reading marvel years ago, but caught wind of a few things they've done.
I'm down to Vader, Strange and Moon Knight. After Bemis tweet, I'm dropping MK, and Strange has been ok-ish, so we'll see. So technically I'm down to one Marvel title by next solicits.
So if you're not on Twitter bitching about politics, they aren't attacking you.
Nothing you're talking about has anything to do with comics, just politics.
If you got every furry on the planet together, it'd be a lot of people, right? But it'd still be statistically insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
Didn't O'Rielly or someone have his own comic at one point? Invisible hand of the free market says no matter how badly comics are doing as a whole, you're still a drop of piss crying in the ocean. I couldn't care less about most of the social problems in the world, they ain't my problem, but it still warms my black little heart seeing a bunch of fuckbois raging against their own insignificance. Losers actively choosing to be on the losing side of history to pretend to be cool to the only losers who'll put up with them.
>dropping a book because the author said something you don't like on twitter
Do you people have even an ounce of self-awareness?
I don't think that image is attacking their own fanbase, just unnecessarily political
>guy from the 1930s unironically supporting socialism
inb4 "but muh new deal"- progressivism just borrows heavily from socialism, it isn't socialism itself otherwise you wouldn't have progressives whining at colonel sanders.
>heroes overcome evil
A shame all they done so far is make them all even a bigger evil than the villains themselves.
>socialism would replace shitty writers
doubt.jpg
>Losers actively choosing to be on the losing side of history to pretend to be cool to the only losers who'll put up with them.
Everyone hates feminazis, its just a fad that will die within three years. Nobody is buying marvel because the real fans jumped shit you fucking idiot. This time next decade everyone will be mocking your kind. SJWs will be hated like the scum you are
Wowee it's almost like in capitalism if someone is an asshole you boycott their shit to try and force them to not be such an asshole
It's not just that, it's a mediocre book that's once again filled with "muh DiD" and is trying to inject SJW into MK.
>inb4 MK's a Jew
Yeah, back then he was a detective who happened to be a Jew. Now he's a DiD Jew who happens to bash people's heads in.
What is the deal with self hating whites? Jesus christ most black men are fucking jerks
They hate themselves for being mediocre and think that by saying those things they're at least being "good guys" and will belong somewhere.
>Bemis, writer of Moon Knight, told the anti-SJW he hated them and for them to "eat his ass."
Blacklisted.
Latino is not a race, you stupid cunt.
>buying Marvel products in the year of our lord, 2017 AD
I honestly envy you right now. Your more privliged by getting jobs just to fill diversity quotas, girls go after you to spite their dads, and white “””””men””””” are fucking pathetic now
I'm a Med user. And not wanting your book to go from "unhinged bad-ass detective with religious angst " to "smol cinamon Jewish roll who cuts people's faces off" isn't Sup Forums.
>Your more privliged by getting jobs just to fill diversity quotas
I live in latinoamerica.
Puerto Rico? Is your favorite comic book America Chavez? Are you a fat dyke? I think I know who you are, Rivera.
>some of their fanbase
>racist retards who don't know how to shut their mouths and just move on to other comics
yeah, goodbye.
This, I still have plenty of Marvel on my pull list and the only thing they've done to offend me is cancel GotG
You go to a street with multiple ice-cream stands. You have no fucking clue which one is the best but they all look very tasty and promising, all promise to use quality cream and ingredients. Four of the ice-cream stalls greet you and ask how your day has been going, fifth one gives you a middle finger and tells you evil white man to fuck off. Would you buy ice cream from that fifth stand?
Why would they?
They are not McDonnalds, their employees don't have to listen with a smile to some entitled assholes.
>duhhhh everyone who doesnt like my mary sue poorly written iron heart who literally wants a reason to be “oppressed” so she can find a reason to bitch is a racist
Nice bullshit their marvel fag. If anything the writers their are racist
I don't see why that image is an attack on anyone.
Comics have always been highly political. If you let political messages that you don't agree with get to you, and furthermore fill you with anger, then you're the kind of person nobody ever listens to when the time comes to actually discuss politics.
Not really interested in anything Marvel's offering right now, but it has nothing to do with alleged attacks on the readership or anything political.
>being this assblasted
I don't read marvel shit, gringo. And Puerto Rico is not a real latin country.
Would I claim that ice cream is worse than the others?
Nobody would've read Superman either if 90% of the content would've been preaching like in that page. People read superhero comics for superpowered beings to have cool adventures and action, something modern Marvel fails to understand.
Why do you retards keep pretending like racist hyper conservatives and frog posters are the main consumers of every fucking thing? You're not.
Aja, claro que te creo chicano maricon. ¿Que sos pues? Andá, decimé que sos y al rato te digo si sos reputo o solo indio de mierda.
... decime que sos boliviano, por favor. Hace rato que no les hacemos bullying.
Nobody has claimed it here. Guy you quoted told he dropped a book, didn't say anything about quality. And quality doesn't matter if competition is of the same or better quality. If all the other ice creams are equally as good as the one in the fifth ice cream booth, then that ice cream booth is shittier than the rest.
The problem isnt its political, its that their politics fucking suck. Third wave feminism is cancer and its goals are to undermine and lessen the value of men in society, get women jobs they dont deserve just because they have a vagina even though more qualified people exsist, remove male sexuality from the media because sexphobic feminists dont like the idea of sexualizing women, the same with violence and dirty jokes in media, and to try to make men into submissive cuckold jokes like dobson. Also, muslims worship a pedo murderous prophet, are known rapists but feminists support them to spite daddy, and are regressive prudish fucks who want to enforce shira law. We should be gassing refugees not welcoming them.
It's vegan.
t. puertoricano que quiere ser gringo
centroamerica raza maestra
Calling out bullshit isnt fucking racist, idiot. Most comic fans are men and we dont want shit like mockingbird being a feminazi in our comics
Maybe when you drop the hobby entirely you'll have cause to reflect on what a petty little bitch you are.
>saying that pissing people off made them sell a lot more, that ended up biting them right back in their asses.
I admit, it was pretty funny to see the sequence going like this.
>centroamerica
Solo hay dos paises que valen una mierda en Centroamerica: Panama y Costa Rica.
Si queres encontrar calidad en LatAm te tenes que ir a Chile.
Well capitalism certainly hasn’t been doing a good job.
>Calling out bullshit isnt fucking racist, idiot.
It's not but going HURR DURR MARVEL IS FAILING BECAUSE THEY PANDER TO SJWS INSTEAD OF THEIR REAL FANS WHO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP AND HATE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS is not only a fucking lie but fucking stupid. A lot of you retards don't read books let alone comics. You're just here to try and win a pissing contest against other retards who happen to disagree with you politically. Normal people don't foam at the mouth over superbowl ads and comic books that say "Everyone is important and we should respect each other. Diversity is good".
You've become Dale Gribble except it's not funny or ironic. It's fucking embarrassing.
Go back to Twitter Bemis, you can block people there and pretend everything is fine.
>Normal people don't foam at the mouth over superbowl ads and comic books that say "Everyone is important and we should respect each other. Diversity is good".
Yeah, they just go "This is fucking gay, I'll go back to watching Marvel movies instead."
>INSTEAD OF THEIR REAL FANS WHO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP AND HATE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
I never said that retard. You can hate regressive feminism and still hate trump, you SJW cuckold
Fuck off.
Kamala and Robbie are alright.
Based on how you described it, yeah actually.
Can't write crappy books if they die of starvation.
Only faggots like getting fucked in the ass.
You mean to talk say that you going to read a bunch of shitty books if the writer is a good conservative nut job?
No. I've got plenty of good books in my "to buy" list and my money is limited. Books with asshole authors are going to go to the bottom of that list, simple as that.
Hey, Cerebus is a hell of a good comic despite having a crazy bastard as the author (or maybe because he is a crazy bastard).
Yeah, they do. None of them own the characters they write. They work for Marvel Ent, and its Marvel's money being fucked with.
If Marvel cared about their money, they would have a zero tolerance on this behavior.
If you're okay with it then fine but most people have a spine, and if you offend them they will leave. Thus Axel Alonzo was released because sales have tanked.
It's not like it matters much. Comics are no longer Marvel's business, movies are.
>esto es lo que los chilenos de verdad creen
Porque es verdad.
>basing your taste off political and personal opinions rather than quality
>Political and personal opinions don't equal quality
Okay...
what about Chuck Dixon?
Original Superman was 90% preaching about the evils of inequality.