What effect will the end of Net Neutrality have on Sup Forums media...

What effect will the end of Net Neutrality have on Sup Forums media? Will it affect streaming sites both legal and illegal? Will it affect webcomics? Will it affect Sup Forums itself?

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Looks like everybody is too busy with the Fox/Disney thing to care.

ISPs' control of the internet is only a problem because of the regional monopolies that only exist because of government intervention.

Internet didn't have proper NN laws enacted until 2015 so exactly as it was before.

Exactly as it was, but even worse.

Why?

If the regulations are to protect us from corporations how come massive corporations like Comcast support it?

And do you think censorious corporations like Facebook and Google have your best interests in mind when they want the regulations?

>Will it affect Sup Forums itself?

God I hope so.

>tfw we may be mere months away from an e-utopia without american Sup Forums crossposters coming into every board and arguing about burger politics and shitting up every thread on this site and the rest of the good parts of the internet

You're ignoring all of the barriers of entry that already exist in the ISP market, it's REALLY hard and expensive to set up all of the cables and infrastructure. Not to mention, many ISPs simply agree not to compete with each other in certain areas.

>If the regulations are to protect us from corporations how come massive corporations like Comcast support it?
Comcast doesn't support Net Neutrality, what are you talking about?

>If the regulations are to protect us from corporations how come massive corporations like Comcast support it?
user, try not being a brainlet Sup Forumstard who can't think for himself for once.

Democrats take Alabama, Disney take Fox, now Trump takes net neutrality, is some kind of balance user...

You are objectively incorrect.

Until 2015, there were no clear legal protections requiring net neutrality. In 2015 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) classified broadband as a Title II communication service with providers being "common carriers", not "information providers". [3][4][5][6]

Nope.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States

Explain it then. These sites have spent the last two years silencing people they disagree with and suddenly they're afraid that Net Neutrality's end will destroy free expression?

Seems fishy-er than a lesbian's toothbrush.

>more moderation makes Sup Forums better
Get fucked in every fuckable orifice and a few that aren't. The only reason I come here as opposed to any other normalfag shithole is because, in MY shithole, I could say what I pleased.

>These sites have spent the last two years silencing people they disagree with and suddenly they're afraid that Net Neutrality's end will destroy free expression?
user, you're confusing social media sites like Facebook and Twitter with ISPs. They are NOT the same thing. One is a website, the other is a company that provides internet access.
It's like the difference between a TV program and a Cable Company. In fact, most ISPs are also Cable Companies.

Why would a dyke have a fishier toothbrush than a straight girl? It's not like women only masturbate if they like other women. If anything straight girls would have fishier toothbrushes because they're more likely to be into penetration.

NN is about throttling not censorship. Nothing is stopping Facebook from banning opinions with or without NN.

Because they eat pussy all day dude use your imagination

If the ISP's block you, you're fucked, they have monopolies, no real competition and they lobby to prevent local groups and governments from funding their own infrastructure and competingm if a website doesn't let you use their site a person can literally just type in a different fucking site and get instant access.

They'll also arbitrarily increase the cost of having a website even if you're being very efficient and using little bandwidth (read: resources/electricity)

They've been regulated like a utility for a reason. I agree that Facebook and Google are evil, but ISP's with even less regulation than Google and Facebook have to deal with now will be a 100x worse. Half the time things are censored on Google and Facebook because media companies abuse the DMCA and pretend that Fair Use doesn't exist.

The ISPs own media companies and will go batshit insane on anything they think they can pretend is 'infringement.' They'll just directly block torrents, streaming sites, the list of bad behavior that will be possible is endless.

There are a ton of social websites available and you can choose between them with very little cost (free market situation.)

Net Neutrality isn't perfect, but it is pretty fucking good honestly, my most hardcore libertarian friends acknowledge that it isn't smart to repeal it and nobody besides Big-4 ISPs and the largest net companies stand to benefit.

I run numerous torrents of public domain works, and there is a real risk the ISPs will just block it because they fucking can.

Expect the ISPs to lie, because they will and do, they won't come down hard at first, but they'll find weird fucking ways to screw every single person in the whole damn country, consolidate their media influence, don't ignore this shit okay?

Also Google and Facebook might benefit because they have enough money and power to make deals with the ISPs, so they can't be relied on to help. This shit is up to citizens, the rich and powerful will be fine mostly.

One day television and the internet will be replaced by one thing that is worse than both.

Not if we do something about it, I've been protesting whenever I'm off work for the last two weeks, and you know not a single person I've talked to wasn't at least aware of Net Neutrality rules being important and necessary in our current situation. Jury duty? Every person in my jury pool knew what Net Neutrality was in some fashion, and had called our local Rep.

Don't be fooled by ISP's saying they're "for" net neutrality, because what they call Net Neutrality != Real Net Neutrality, they're just bullshitting.

COMICS!

Throttling and blocking dude, both will lead to a less vibrant free market of ideas and services. It is not good if you're a liberal, a conservative, a midget, a nun, black white or purple, it isn't good unless you're literally a fucking ISP or a company with billions in dollars of assets that thinks you can work with the ISPs to crush your competition.

Oh yeah, I donate to the EFF and the internet archive every year to protect this stuff.

Considering that some groups are already interested in transforming the internet into the new television, it's very possible the replacement would end up being just the "new internet" of that future.

Stay mad, burger. Enjoy being exiled to r_thedonald and normiebook groups while Sup Forums ends up being the best it has in years without you yankee fucks.

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It's done
>nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-vote.html

It still has to go through the courts.

ISPs didn’t try to regulate what viewers had access to at first.

The NN rules came after anti-comsumer practices.

Kind of like how monopolies weren’t illegal before Big Oil fucked over the consumer in the late 1800’s.

it was a reference to a Pictures for Sad Children comic

If anyone wanted to tap Donny Boy’s twitter and make him post that his dicklette is shrinking they’d better do it now. Time is ticking.

Hopefully it won’t fuck up the notable webcomic sites

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Nice.

You websites will load slower, uploads and downloads will take longer. That’s it as far as I’m aware. You can pay more to avoid these issues

Trips of truth.

but the internet used to be great

They can also entirely deny access to websites, with no pay option.

That’s the best part of Sup Forums sucking it so hard. Stormfront will die, but Tumblr can pay the fee to stay alive and healthy.

So other than charging Youtube, Netflix, etc more for their services, what does this change?

They already do that. Hence why the darkweb exists.

Nothing really.
Google wants to continue being shit, having to pay for things instead of sitting there absorbing all the money in the world gets in the way of that.

>I'm not part of the problem: The Post
You're the type of poster who sees crossposters bragging about how good their home board is, migrate, shit all over the place, and then wonder why it's just as bad as where you left.

Net neutrality isn’t close to dead right now, though.

got a better one

I think it’s the latter claim that he’s contesting here.

>the government wants to mandate a law that protects freedoms to take away freedoms
Don't breed.

Nazi

It depends on the ISP.

Its impossible to start a new one, so its between the existing ones. To date they basically all provide the same services and under the same rules with minor variations. So whatever happens is certain to happen industry-wide.

They could entirely block any site they want, throttle anything they want as much as they want, and charge fees to both the producers and consumers at the same time.

Its up to them how much they want to do of anything. Consumers and producers have no say or alternatives. You’ll either have whatever internet they say they will let you have, or none at all.

Individual states are preparing their own NN rules, setting up a showdown with the Trump Administration of federal rights VS state rights.

Generally speaking, only the Trump Admin and Trump trolls are against NN. Conservatives who fear Trump won’t speak on the matter, and stateside are proponents of it regardless if liberal or conservative although currently only liberal states are trying to make local NN.

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Your casual support of eugenics outs you.

You could have provided an argument with actual substance but instead you chose to shitpost vaguely with an insult. Riveting.

Cuntcast.

Jewgle

I love how this devolved into which massive, groaning Corporate entity we are planting our flag on. When did Syndicate Wars happen?

>setting up a showdown with the Trump Administration of federal rights VS state rights.
Who'd have thought that suddenly the GOP would be against States' Rights?

If ISPs really wanted to they could prevent people from accessing websites they do not approve of, say porn that goes against the company's moral standing or websites that badmouth the ISP.

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Can we all just appreciate how cuckservatives are all celebrating how ISPs can cuckold them?

>Repeal Federal Regulation
>Against States rights

Was I being too vague? That's the most masturbatory conspiracy post I've ever seen. The amount of bending over backwards I've seen to bash a law advocating consumer freedoms just because the government does it is astounding.

Ok, so the FCC wins.
Net Neutrality is gone, but we can get it back right.
The only reason it was changed is because Trump appointed that shitskin corporate boot licker as the chairmen.
And let's be honest, Trump isn't sticking around for another 4 years.
So given that the next president is a Libtard, and appoints Democrats to the FCC, we could get it back soon....right?

But they *do* hate the free market.

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when Ajit Pai says that the internet will be like it was pre-2015 and will be more open than ever, his belief is predicated on nostalgia for when these media corporations didn't quite understand what they could do. Now that those companies realize the numerous ways they can fuck people, this idealism of his is going to be given a shot of reality.

So there is room to sue.

More than likely it will be slowing down competing streaming services. We've already seen new corporate warfare start between Amazon and Google about streaming systems.

This guy(?) has a Star Wars name.

>Its impossible to start a new one
It was like that before Net Neutrality.

>They could entirely block any site they want, throttle anything they want as much as they want, and charge fees to both the producers and consumers at the same time.
Already like that.

>You’ll either have whatever internet they say they will let you have, or none at all.
Already like that.

>Generally speaking, only the Trump Admin and Trump trolls are against NN.
Nice generalization. Net Neutrality is a scam and a breech of our rights. Anyone who knows any history can see that.

Youtube isn't on Amazon prime anymore starting the first.

oh no?

>Trump the most pro-Jew president ever
>Still uses Jew as an insult

There is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish Sup Forums please leave.

>Fight states when they reintroduce regulation on their level
>Not federalists

>And let's be honest, Trump isn't sticking around for another 4 years.
Sorry user. Even in the extremely unlikely event that Trump gets impeached before 2020, Mike Pence sure as hell isn't going to reinstate Net Neutrality.

depends. There are jews and then there are zionists.

>Making up imaginary scenarios
>Not delusional

>no more Marvel shills because they're all broke and cannot pay extra packages to do their unpaid job
Looks like the days of Comics and Cartoons are back?

Ditch Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T. Get cable internet or switch to local internet providers.

If I were smart enough to know what it was I'd care.

>believing Americans are the primary shit posters

It's okay, one day you might be able to be have a conversation without talking about how you aren't from America.

Thanks to Trump, you can be Sup Forums by being pro or anti Jew.

Only people who have no opinion about. Jews either way aren’t Sup Forums!

See

>keep seeing retards from Sup Forums saying that Google and Twitter won't be able to ban people and obscure sites now that NN is gone
I honestly can't tell anymore. Are there actual retarded Fox News watching Boomers on Sup Forums now?

>NN repealed
>Sup Forums is still shit

See

Amazon has refused to sell the Nexus TV, chromecast and Apple TV

>Net Neutrality is a scam and a breech of our rights
OUR rights? You include yourself? You own an ISP?

I've been shitposting up a storm. I've switched opinions like three times now and nobody can stop me.
also checked

The faith these fucking shills put into massive billion dollar wallet rape machines like Comcast is fucking disgusting.
His whole argument is that the public back lash will keep us safe. That if we make enough of a stink then they will be FORCED to listen if things get bad.
How naive do you have to be to believe this trash?
How good at mental gymnastics do you have to be to trust corporations to regulate themselves in a fair and ethical way?
News Flash: You couldn't even do that when NN WAS a thing, and you certainly won't be able to without the proper foresight.

>mental gymnastic
More on the list of common buzzwords to safely ignore.

Why do people believe that telecoms would spend hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying to remove NN just so they could keep everything the same? Or better yet, why they would spend that much money to supposedly break up their own monopolies?

>If Comcast intentionally did throttle everything you cared about indefinitely, their customer satisfaction would drop immensely and there would be public outcry. Comcast still exists not because they are the only choice. They exist because they are the only decent choice. If they did this, they would no longer be a decent choice and they would lose customers and therefore power.

>You seriously think the market won[']t sort itself out?

>Competition has been increasing as things like Google Fiber moves to big cities, driving the cable monopolies out. And soon 5G technology will be implemented (within a decade most likely at most) which would completely smash the cable monopolies as the only infrastructure required will be cell towers.

If it wasn't for the the 5G line I'd have thought this was from 2012, if not 2006. Jesus Christ, these fucking kids.

It's over boys.

THANKS FOR ELECTING TRUMP

nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-vote.html

Well this is a fucking lie. 98 was when the original rules were actually laid down, thou at the time most people would have called it a series of strong suggestions, but not a law because the internet was so new that nobody wanted to set rules in stone before the market finally adapted to the internet

They'll go slowly. I expect the only thing that would affect Sup Forums in the first few years will be the questionable streaming sites getting throttled or even blocked completely. Most of the ISPs are linked to content controllers, and once the ISPs are in the game the Great DMCA Wall of America will make China look like pikers. It'll be like when Piratebay gets fucked, but 100x more so. No one cares because pirates, perfectly right they should be shut down most people figure.

In addition to outright blocking/throttling, though expect a lot more active monitoring of what is on sites, other more passive means of traffic guidance, selling clicks instead of buying them via promotion, traffic shaping, and perhaps pop up injection.

There won't be any changes for a few years.

The Telecoms know that if they start gouging it'll get repealed.

Expect netflix to be throttled unless they pay up to the big boys. Expect mobile plans to start advertising things like "social media packages" in 2 years.

Home internet will just be a hodgepodge of slow shit, and ads that say "the fastest facebook provider" "the quickest youtube".

I'm talking about the long game.
Next election is almost guaranteed to be a Democrat victory for better or worse.
I can see one of the campaign promises being to reinstate net neutrality.

I hate to say it but I think that Google really has our best interest at heart

They're not boomers. They're conservative 20-30 somethings that get their news from Breitbart, Alex Jones and InfoWars. And ironically from the Twitter and Facebook they claim is super censored.

actually

>We've spent millions of dollars to get rid of the rules that make it so we can't fuck you in the ass but we promise we won't. It's just really important that we can