Will the repeal of NN affect our ability to torrent/stream cartoons in anyway or is this the time to start hoarding as...

Will the repeal of NN affect our ability to torrent/stream cartoons in anyway or is this the time to start hoarding as many old cartoons and comics as I can stash on my harddrive?

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Yes. Torrent sites will be one of the first sites on the ban list

Do you like porn?
Do want to have trouble finding porn?

Why do they even have porn in their crosshairs? How does porn hurt ISPs?

Can you guys stop shilling so hard? Your company lost, no point in spinning your (((lies))) any longer. We're making the internet great again. There's no way that Trump or his cabinet is going to do anything like that, it's only google and the other big jewish cooperation that were using NN to maintain their monopoly and steal bandwidth.

>lies
>Madison River and Comcast-BitTorrent—the anecdotes most frequently cited in favor of Title II regulation—demonstrate that any problematic conduct was quite rare. The more recent incidents discussed in the [2015 net neutrality] Order also show that since 2008, few tangible threats to the openness of the Internet have arisen. First, in 2012, AT&T restricted customers on certain data plans from accessing FaceTime on its cellular network for three months. AT&T contended it did so due to network management concerns, while application developers argued the restriction limited consumer choice. Regardless of the merits, AT&T ultimately reversed its decision within three months and the decision did not affect consumers who had data caps.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/comcast-throttling-bittorrent-was-no-big-deal-fcc-says/

tl;dr version - probably not

So that they can sell access to it separately
This is the FCC for fucks sake, the people who wanted to keep the word Fuck out of television

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Before? It didn't, but now, angry parent groups can lobby ISPs to ban porn sites "for the children".

Welcome to the Hell you've made for yourselves.

Here's one good thing to take note of. No more SJW shit on the web. Can't wait for reddit and other cancerous Leftist sites to have their internet speed throttled.

The couldn't do it before the 2015 regulations, they can't do it now

Stop watching fear mongering news. Literally nothing is going to change for you as an internet user.

>Here's one good thing to take note of. No more SJW shit on the web. Can't wait for reddit and other cancerous Leftist sites to have their internet speed throttled.
You really think Reddit, one of most popular social media sites on the internet, is going to have any trouble paying the fees to be packaged with facebook and google?
This is why you shouldn't vote with your schadenfreude, kids.

Liberal and leftist are very different. Even the Republican parts is liberal by political science standards.

Between the Disney buyout of Fox and the end of net neutrality, you can say goodbye to the golden age of right wing media.

this

Were you unable to torrent or stream content in 2014? Because that's what the internet world looked like prior to net neutrality.

In other words: You'll be fine.

This shit is nothing but fear mongering paid for by billion dollar companies like Apple and Netflix and Amazon because they know that their corporate welfare time is up and they'll have to contribute funds back into the internet infrastructure that they've so unabashedly leeched and profited off of for so long while still maintaining price points that consumers will pay (i.e. it starts to cut into the profits and billions in cash holdings that they used to pay as dividends to all of the entitled baby boomer shareholder fucks).

So this anti NN is a major part of trump's new government right? Doesn't this mean that it only affect leftist sites like reddit, CNN or tumblr? I mean Sup Forums is quite small and is a major reason for Trump's victory while sites like reddit actively work against him most of the time. I don't think Trump is going to shit on his secret weapon, Sup Forums is going to be fine. Relax. It's going to be leftist shit like reddit that gets throttled or sectioned off if it happens.

Disney isn't buying the news or sports portions of Fox (at least that was the word last week). Just the entertainment.

>Do want to have trouble finding porn?
Yes, finding porn of getting into mishaps that lead to them accidentally having sex or accidentally giving a blow job is very difficult to find.

it won't affect jack shit - the whole point of repealing the 2015 regulations is to have *less* government control of the internet

You've lost the plot completely.

Yeah, man. The Simpsons is so right wing.

They want to market it. Imagine all the big porn sites being bundled together in some sort of “adult premium” package from your isp. Imagine the potential revenue to make from withholding pornography from millions of horny computer geeks. There’s a lot of money to be made in this sort of practice.

>So this anti NN is a major part of trump's new government right? Doesn't this mean that it only affect leftist sites like reddit, CNN or tumblr?
No and no. If you've got the cash, you get the fast lane, if not, oh well. And it pains me to inform you, Sup Forums isn't a very profitable site.

You're full of shit, shill. Net Neutrality has been the de facto policy of the FCC for decades. A court limited their authority to do so in 2014, which is why it had to issue new rules on it in 2015. Now all that's going away and it's us who are going to get screwed.

name one (1) reason why you don't support net neutrality that has nothing to do with what other people or entities think of it

I didn't have a problem before NN
Why should I worry now?

>Will the repeal of NN affect our ability to torrent/stream cartoons in anyway?

no

Reddit is for the NN, not Sup Forums you fucking shill

Google, Facebook and Netflix support it. That's all the reason I need.

>Reddit is for the NN, not Sup Forums you
YOU FUCKING RETARD, DO YOU SERIOUSLY LET YOUR PETTY INTERNET WARS GET IN THE WAY OF THE BIGGER PICTURE?

Because you've actually had it the entire time and only now are about to potentially lose it.

don't give me any "but 2015" crap, the principles of net neutrality have been protecting you far before it was actually legally cited.

Sup Forums has been running ads telling people to call congress to save NN

Just because you were to dumb to notice something bad was happening doesn't mean something bad wasn't happening you dope.

because a BASED brown guy just btfo leftist sjw globalist shills. the internet is finally going to go back to the way it was before obongo and soros started their communist campaign of white genocide.

>believing the people in charge are moronic idealists
Not everyone is as stupid as you. They couldn't give a shit about the "new right alt-right" bullshit. You were only ever a means to an end, and this is the end. Fucking everyone over so Verizon and Comcast can make a little more money. But hey, at least Killary Cunton isn't president, right?

why do so many trumpsters believe this? Comcast and Time Warner are huge neolibiral monoliths. Comcast was a major Clinton contributor

Did you have a problem during NN? Why repeal it?

Wow, all the divide and conquer stuff has really paid off. Enjoy dial-up speeds at premium prices kids.

>not Sup Forums you fucking shill
do you not fucking remember when Sup Forums got blocked, against the ideals of net neutrality?

Because, truly, if there's a man without a track record of throwing people under the bus the minute he gets what he wants, it's Donald Trump.

>Lets take the power from the government we helped make since the Election
>To the liberal companies we hated since the beginning

>durr Sup Forums is a total bandwidth hog like netflix so it'll get the slow lane treatment
God damn, what is it like being such a brainlet? Sup Forums has lower bandwidth usage than low tier news sites like Vice. It's like saying they're going to "slow lane" etsy.

Are you stupid? Do you really not recall the numerous times prior to NN regulation that companies like Comcast put in throttles only to back off when public outrage forced their hand? That was going on well before even 2008. NN was not "de facto" prior to the Obama administration's placement of it because anti-NN actions were undertaken and walked back constantly before Obama was even elected. The consumer end always regulated it prior to 2014 through outcry and it worked. Read a fucking article for once in your life instead of jerking off to cartoons, numbnuts. I suggest you start with Ars Technica's archives and seeing how often throttling was attempted over the last 10 years and how often it was beaten back by the consumer market itself.

>same fucking thread with the same picture as a few hours ago
Sorry but if you want your shekels, you need to be a little original in your spam.

the fact that you're okay with them even doing it in the first place shows you've lost touch with what you're losing

And here I was thinking I couldn't hate this decision more, now I find out Ajit Pai's trying to cockblock me.

>Do you really not recall the numerous times prior to NN regulation that companies like Comcast put in throttles only to back off when public outrage forced their hand?
Yep, this

I'd rather get fucked and tell someone to stop fucking me rather than not get fucked in the ass at all.

The next step is legally defining any kind of home media as DMCA violations, so no, you'd just better ready yourself for media as costly service.

There was next to no regulation of the internet in the '96 telecom act, the entire Dem selling point of the 2015 regulations was to "correct the error" by introducing a massive overhaul in federal regulatory point

The whole net neutrality discussion seems to be focusing on download speeds and access to particular services, but does anybody remember back in 2006 when AOL got caught blocking people from sending or receiving emails that expressed criticism of AOL? There was no sign that it was happening, and the emails would appear to be delivered - AOL’s mail servers would even report a normal “accepted for delivery” status code - but they’d just never show up in the recipient’s inbox. Or how about the incident a year earlier where Telus imposed fake service outages for websites expressing support for the Telecommunications Workers Union? Again, no indication that any blocking was taking place: just a error page falsely claiming the affected sites were down.

Under the proposed deregulations, this sort of thing would be explicitly permitted, and we know it’s possible because it’s been done. Now consider how much more communication happens via the Internet in 2017 than in 2005/2006. It’s not even email or websites; big chunks of the telephone network now pass through ISP-mediated VOIP channels, and those conversations would likewise be targetable by faked outages.

Like, this isn’t some dystopian sci-fi scenario; we’re talking about horseshit that major ISPs were getting up to on the sly over a decade ago, and are now about to be told can be engaged in without regulatory penalty.

By the way, that kind of scenario is how censorship in China works. They don’t throw up a page saying the content is illegal, they just route it in such a way that the packets go around in circles and time out. ISPs could easily start pulling all kinds of tricks to demote things they don’t like – they have the option of not routing it correctly, slowing the bandwidth to a crawl, or just stopping the request and sending back a 404. We need to keep Net Neutrality.

Neoliberal and liberal don’t mean thit same things, you idiot. One is an economic term, one is an ideological term. Neoliberalism is most closely associated with conservatives and blue-dog democrats.

uhh yeah that's what's happening. I'm confused as to why your on board besides MUH IDEOLOGY. nn repeal isn't helping either of us

The cited incidents aren’t even the half of it - they’re just a couple of the better known ones.

For example, there was the time that Comcast blocked Boston-area subscribers from accessing their GMail inboxes, and when folks called their support line to complain, they falsely claimed that it was a technical issue on Google’s end and tried to sell them a Comcast email account.

Or the time that Madison River Communications ended up getting fined for their VOIP-metering scheme when it turned out that they were interfering with 911 calls made by users in their service area.

Or the time Verizon started selectively blocking text messages sent by pro-choice advocacy groups, even to recipients who’d explicitly opted into them.

Again, none of this is hypothetical - this isn’t stuff we imagine major telecoms will do in the absence of strong net neutrality protections, but stuff they already have done, and in many cases only stopped due to regulatory pressure at the federal level.

My ISP is the only one around here so I get fucked with or without it.

I honestly don't care about any of this as long as liberals lose

Yup. If anything this will increase competition and help innovation.

YOU lose too, genius.

>increase competition
yep, ISPs would want to repeal NN to increase competition

lmao

>I'm confused as to why your on board
I'm not

1) that is straight up retarded

2) even if it weren’t redditors would flood Sup Forums en masse because they don’t have to pay extra

3) you’re an idiot in every way

Am I the only one enjoying the shitstorm on reddit? Sweet sweet liberal tears, feels like 2016 over again. Reading the comments, it feels like they are literally crying as they type their butthurt out for the world to see

Reddit is mostly fucking text anyway.

You could run Reddit with a fucking 28.8 modem.

>Are you stupid? Do you really not recall the numerous times prior to NN regulation that companies like Comcast put in throttles only to back off when public outrage forced their hand? That was going on well before even 2008. NN was not "de facto" prior to the Obama administration's placement of it because anti-NN actions were undertaken and walked back constantly before Obama was even elected. The consumer end always regulated it prior to 2014 through outcry and it worked. Read a fucking article for once in your life instead of jerking off to cartoons, numbnuts. I suggest you start with Ars Technica's archives and seeing how often throttling was attempted over the last 10 years and how often it was beaten back by the consumer market itself.
It was "beaten back" by the FCC, moron. Consumers raised the alarm but it was the FCC that did the heavy lifting. People didn't cancel their internet subscriptions en mass to force Comcast to allow torrenting again. Are you reading this shit off of cue cards or are you really this dumb?

>Or the time Verizon started selectively blocking text messages sent by pro-choice advocacy groups, even to recipients who’d explicitly opted into them
>they stopped murderers from conspiring to kill
Wow, lock them up, am I right guys?

Do you like seeing liberals cry online?
How would you feel if your ISP charged you more to see crying liberal posts?
That would really suck wouldn't it?

>only to back off when public outrage forced their hand?
Actually, most of the time it was the FCC that forced their hand, up until 2014 when the courts decided they didn't have the authority so it had to be codified into Net Neutrality.

Maybe *you* should actually read those articles.

Sure whatever helps you sleep at night fag.
Just wait until your parents can't pay more to have internet access as usual.

>I will actively work against my own bets interest if it confounds the people who were more popular than me in high school

Conservatism was a mistake.

>he says while posting from his parents basement

Actual wealthyfag here. Definitely gonna start a ISP in a rural area and charge you dumb bastards through the roof. Thanks for making me even richer.

You're going to have to pay more money to see liberal tears you nignorant moron

neolibiral is "I'm with Her" transgender drone strikes liberalism. saying neolibiral liberal monoliths is redundant and your missing the fucking point.

why would democrats throttle their own they are gonna throttle leftists, republicans, and ethno-nationalists

Don't fucking act like they wouldn't do the same to us

My porn games, my porn

Man it's going to be awkward going down there and asking, "c-can I have the futa/tranny bundle?"

A few incidents doesn't equal an epidemic, and you're ignoring the fact that companies were successfully sued for fucking over consumers. The market handled itself just fine before NN and it will after.

Nah bro, popular kids don't even think about you pathetic mongoloids.

Sup Forums: gets fucked over in anti-net neutrality actions in the past. like, that actually happened.
also Sup Forums: durr we don't need net neutrality

It was regulated under preexisting telecommunication policy.

see

People are acting like their water is being cut off. Oh no you may have slight throttling. However will you fap?

You just actually don't understand the words you're using. Ronald Reagan is the father of Neoliberalism for fucks' sake.

Cool story bro

>I dont pay my own bills the post

No one else besides me, possibly you and maybe one other person are old enough or actually American enough to remember 2009.

I get throttled even with NN, my internet usability isn't going to change. ISPs are kikefests regardless, but at least Google and Facebook lost this battle.

>Oh no you might have some slight throttling
so youd just rather straight up have throttling...?

Actually I wouldn’t, as my mother is a very careful woman and did not drop me as an infant. How the hell do you openly admit that you view policy-making as a team sport and take yourself seriously as an adult?

I do. That's why I want more competition and government out of it. Know why Verizon offers unlimited data now? Competition.

I pay my own bills. I get raped for $84/mo for 300mb/s and get throttled constantly. Nothing is going to change with this repeal, I'll still get assraped by Cox.

He's not an adult. He's a man child living with his parents.

I miss the days when Sup Forums would have organized a massive attack on the poo in the loo and harassed him and his family til he begged us to stop.

no alt-right shit either, retard!

Why the fuck would ISPs want to repeal NN to increase competition TO THEIR OWN PRODUCT

Are you implying ISPs don't throttle anyway even with NN in place? The real fight you losers should be fighting is breaking up these de facto monopolies that ISPs have become, not complain because Google and Netflix have to pay their fair share in the infrastructure of the internet.

I own stock in At&t and Verizon.

You're a dumbass of the you think Google was actually against this. Google has been edging closer to becoming an ISP provider for years with Project Fi and their fiber developments. Now there's gonna be no walled garden laws in place, this is their wet dream come true.

>”I’m with Her” transgender drone strikes liberalism

You are literally just listing words that make you angry. Go google “neoliberal economics” right now and spend 5 minutes educating yourself on the topic. I’m not lying to you user, I am stating objective facts.

>you're ignoring the fact that companies were successfully sued for fucking over consumers.

It's cute that you think that the GOP won't undermine the ability of people to sue businesses via tort reform.

It won't last anyway. Large sums of people are pissed, and it will probably backpedal like that Patreon debacle

>I pay my own bills. I get raped for $84/mo for 300mb/s and get throttled constantly. Nothing is going to change with this repeal, I'll still get assraped by Cox.
No, now you're going to get spitroasted. Enjoy those Cox jammed down your throat.