The ABSOLUTE state of the western animation

Why modern western animation sucks so much? What went so fucking wrong? How did we go from this...

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...to this...

... AND THIS

budget
changes in the animation industry
lack of creative directors and quality control

is the intro to a porn flash?

looks almost as good as
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>tie in vs cash grab
Oh, I wonder

God damn, this brings me back

Every industry in America is fucked at this point. Everyone is trying as desperately as possible to milk money from consumers, quality is considered to be less important than that. The competition that made America tolerable has turned into streamlined exploitation of the uneducated people that America creates. Because of this, anything that requires a good amount of money to create (a tv show/movie) isn't going to be created unless the people investing in it believe it can milk the moneys efficiently. The people who have the money don't care unless they can get more money.

This one was my favorite
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>tie in vs cash grab
Every modern cartoon has choppy, slow and ugly animation.

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The answer is money. The answer is ALWAYS money.

Why

>Every industry in America is fucked at this point.
Even the farming industry

Post the Garnet vs Jasper gif/webm

You and me both. We didn't know how good we had it back then. So much great free content from a generation of aspiring new artists.

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>Thinking Japanese Animation is any better

No one is talking about anime...

omfg im dying this is so bad

The action feels just as weightless as SU!

this is bait rite? Both of those were fantastic.

Detail is a lost art in modern animation.

Genndy is a god. Everyone else isn't.

>anime SU is as bad as cartoon SU
We aren't so different

>this delusion

>that fucking flash tween shrink effect
TOONBOOM WAS A MISTAKE, CALARTS DESERVES TO BE BURNED

Now look at SakugaBooru.

When Japs try, they make good animation. They usually make bad animation to save up their budget for the good shit.

When the US tries... Oh wait, we don't try any more. Not when Flash and CalArts can make things so easy and convenient.

What's the most recent cartoon that had animation that genuinely impressed you guys?

air benders don't fly

Tron Uprising
Motor City
Sym-biotic Titan
I can think of those off the top of my head

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Apperently they can unless they can if they cut off all attachments. Zaheres earthly teather was his girlfriend who died right in front of his eyes and so he was able to let go and thus able to fly

I guess bisons just fly through sheer willpower than, eh?

>Sym-biotic Titan
>recent

well it came out in 2010 so i'm assuming by recent user was talking about shows tha came ou 2010 and onward

More like modern artists stopped studying real life and its exaggeration.

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seems like a shit reason for a cool aerial battle always liked the gliding thing more than flying. Though cool concept i just personally hate it.
their called flying bison for a reason.

Shit i really did forget about omniverse

Samurai Jack was good

This is what you get when a single corporation owns most of the entertainment industry and realizes that no matter how shitty their product is or how bad the hack artists they hired to make it are, the crowd's terrible taste and thirst for more fan service will make them gobble it down like candy.

Gump

Trollhunters

What is with this new trend of anime being done in 3D? Shit is ugly as fuck.

It isn't new. Been going on for the past 10 years.

I feel like motion tween animation is better for much more cartoony designs. Wander Over Yonder used motion tweens and it felt so much more alive than this disaster.

This cancer has even spread to our Oriental cousins. Dark times.

isn't that one a reference to some anime where a dude floats up like that?

>Marge immediately turns in Maggie's direction with a smile in the second before she pops out

It's called frame efficiency. You don't need a hundred frames when five convey the same information. You really want to end up with overanimated garbage like pic related?

Why does Alien X have a Jay Leno chin now?

money.

Please, be bait

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little witch was so frustrating to me. like, wow was akko a fucking retard. so much lost potential.

not same user.

Disney vs WB

No shit, Japan can't do 3D animation. It's even horrible when they mix 3D with hand drawn animation. They don't even bother trying to animate at the same FPS.

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point proven

nothing will ever be as bad as berserk

>old marge a thicc hottie down for some funky stuff in the bedroom sometimes, only a little naggy but a good heart
>modern marge a thin shrew who wont look at homer as she jerks him off and wont ever stop bitching

>marge
>thicc

Honestly, it looks good in motion, but whenever it goes into a still frame, it looks really odd and stiff.

It's cool they're trying to emulate the style of the show, but some things look better in 2D than 3D.

But enough about that, Wheres the open beta?

Who knows

Lastman was pretty fucking ballin'
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>overanimated
Into the trash (you) go

Video games are kind of cheating. The vast majority of 3-D animated stuff from Japan is pretty garbage.

HAHAHAHA
This shit looks like the Spaceballs cartoon!

wow, i've seen the other one so many times and somehow have never seen this one
this is so lit, i love it
>i wish i was three foot taller
>i wish i was a baller
>i wish i had soft shelled turtle i would call her
this sounds so familiar, what is it a reference to? a pac song?

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>The vast majority of 3-D animated stuff from Japan is pretty garbage.

Just like in America right?

This doesn't look good though. Anime regularly has better looking scenes, even non fight scenes.

>This doesn't look good though
the models don't, but the animation is quite nice.

Not really, we've become the leaders in 3-D animation while we let our traditional animation pretty much whither and die. Japan doesn't really have a Pixar or a Dreamworks.

>Just like in America right?
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Daisy Ridley does not look that feminine.

I'm actually gonna criticize this scene. Clone Wars had a lot of emphasis on stylish combat like this, but it's at odds with the story of the series. Dooku says Grievous doesn't guard enough, leading to losing one of his sabers, but the animation is so quick it doesn't reflect this at all. Busy animation isn't the same as effective animation. Clone Wars was a great looking show, but it's emotional stakes were pretty low.

You know since this aired all I focused on was how bad that fusion is but I just noticed that jasper doesn't even fall in the right direction. Jesus, this actually got worse for me.

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I miss the original Ben 10 because I haven't seen such impacting blows, tactics, and fluidity in fights since Justice League and Boondocks.

It's like the animators just said fuck it and lost even more effort each time a sequel, season, reboot, or whatever the fuck you want to call it gets shitted out.

>What is Ben 10 Omniverse

A god wouldn't fuck their own series over in the worst possible way after 13 goddamn years. But he sure is a shitty ass hack especially where the fights are concerned this year.

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>Implying that shit with the ass tier artstyle is even close to these GOAT fights

>remember coming out of this episode thinking that I felt slightly disappointed because I'd hyped myself up for something mad edgy and serious
>this was probably the most samurai jack episode we got and the best episode in the season, frankly

No. Omniverse was way better

This is the first time I've seen a fight from OK KO. I have no reason to think it's cherry picking from the frames people post

This is really bad.

You are not familiar with gods are you?

>le forced animation
inb4
>lel u all fell for my b8

>Doesn't understand that she was the female equivalent of a shounen action hero.
stop being so fucking sexist.

most gods were unmitigated dicks.

Are they falling asleep?

This isn't bait

>isn't that one a reference to some anime where a dude floats up like that?
Cowboy Bebop.

I didn’t know CalArts was a computer program.

Sky bison use air bending to fly though. They always did, aang even says they were the original benders in the 3rd season. Fucking contrarian.

Don't even remind me of that show. Its honestly impressive how badly they fucked it up. How they got the green light to produce a second season when the first was an absolute disaster I'll never know

>bitch best believe it is hammertime
>Wanananana

Anytime a show or movie is given an animation budget.

You’re comparing TV-aired, short-form animation with the full backing of a studio to a low-tier, tiny-budgeted web series that Disney knows not that many people will watch.

And this case is the creator forcing the animators to animate stiffer.

Cheap animations are the mistake, not the tools. If you want to see how frame-by-frame animation can look horrible, just look at any of Hannah Barbera’s 70s era schlock.

Tell me why a god would embarrass himself that badly instead of just giving the series a generic plot? And gods are egotistical jackasses yet they would never be that incompetent and pathetic after all that damn prep time.

Anyone not missing any chromosomes could've easily handled the rest of the season.