PAW Patrol + Thomas The Tank Engine

What do you make of this, Sup Forums.
I can't help but think that a number of accusations it makes about the characters of PAW Patrol are just due to how simple the characters are. Like, it predicates on there being a distinguishable leader figure (Ryder).
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>fascist shows
>Doesn't bring up special agent OSO

Amateurs.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=9hLowmoU5nU [Open]

>cnn

But the Fat Controller isn't a fascist; he's a CONTROLLER; IE THE HEAD OF A SOCIALISED REGION OF A NATIONALISED RAIL NETWORK.

HE'S LITERALLY A COMMUNIST SUPERVISOR.

This is possibly the dumbest shit I've ever read and whoever wrote it should be fired and publicly flogged for being the reason that journalism is dead.

>"Thomas," the long-running television franchise about a group of working trains chugging away on the Island of Sodor, has been called a "premodern corporate-totalitarian dystopia" in the New Yorker, imperialist and sinister in Slate, and classist, sexist and anti-environmentalist in the Guardian. And yet people -- presumably parents -- spend $1 billion on "Thomas" merchandise every year."

>Author is a woman
>Author of the NYorker article is a woman
>Author of the Slate article is a woman

Christ, i hated thomas as a kid and i think paw patrol is retarded as fuck, but its not fucking fascist

Vamprina and now this shit?

Wha- I was obsessed with Thomas as a kid. The VHS without the live-action was great. What made me like as a child were the trains and the fact that Thomas is constantly getting BTFO in the beginning for being a lil' shit. Then Edward getting humbled was a shock.

>"What are you doing James? You're a big pink steamie," says Diesel, the bad-boy engine. (For the record, all the "villains" on Thomas and Friends are the dirty diesel engines. I'd like to think there was a good environmental message in there, but *********when the good engines pump out white smoke and the bad engines pump out black smoke – and they are all pumping out smoke – it's not hard to make the leap into the race territory.************)


theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/22/thomas-the-tank-engine-children-parents

Tell me it's actually a parody

It's never parody with these people.

as soon as people are the color black they jump to race defense

it couldn't possibly be because the color black has been associated with darkness and death since long before race was an issue

>being this overreacting
>seeing fascism, racism and sexism precisely in these two cartoons
>getting paid to write this
>being taken seriously by readers

What a time to be alive.

Thomas had some pretty dark stories about the horrible fates that await those that don't do what they are told

that could be seen as fascist,
or, that the writer is a ham fist at morality lessons

>Here's Why "Paw Patrol" Is A Terrible Kids' Show
>Down with pup patriarchy.

>Posted on January 21, 2016, at 2:09 p.m.
by Craig ((((((((Silverman)))))))))

Christ. It's common knowledge that children crave structure and consistency. They're fascists now because of it?

It was written as children stories by a Vicar in the 1950s.

Yes. We need to teach children to embrace chaos.

The problem is that those horrible fates happen because they are fucking trains on specified tracks with schedules and regulations to prevent catastrophes. Thomas constantly goes against them in the beginning to the point of illness in the beginning, and he turns out all the better for it. He is one of the most prominent and reliable characters in the show for discovering himself through rebellion. They pull this with Henry and the Great(?) Kipper. He fucks up and it's terrible. He is given another chance and succeeds, then moves on. James also does what Thomas does with horrible results. He causes the biggest on-screen disaster because he went with ONLY what he thought should be.

No mention of The Lion Guard? They had an episode about how stereotypes exist for a reason and that immigrants pretending to be nice should be driven from society. I'm not even lying.

I keep hoping that one day, CNN will actually take itself seriously again.

But I've been holding my breath for 5 years now.

Structure and consistency are inventions of western culture, therefore white and male, therefore racist, sexist and xenophobic, therefore fascist #staywoke

Didn’t CNN called my little pony racist once?

schools are a fascist regime, gotta get kids ready for them

>“Nonsense!” said Gregory, who was very rational when anyone else attempted paradox. “Why do all the clerks and navvies in the railway trains look so sad and tired, so very sad and tired? I will tell you. It is because they know that the train is going right. It is because they know that whatever place they have taken a ticket for that place they will reach. It is because after they have passed Sloane Square they know that the next station must be Victoria, and nothing but Victoria. Oh, their wild rapture! oh, their eyes like stars and their souls again in Eden, if the next station were unaccountably Baker Street!”

>“It is you who are unpoetical,” replied the poet Syme. “If what you say of clerks is true, they can only be as prosaic as your poetry. The rare, strange thing is to hit the mark; the gross, obvious thing is to miss it. We feel it is epical when man with one wild arrow strikes a distant bird. Is it not also epical when man with one wild engine strikes a distant station? Chaos is dull; because in chaos the train might indeed go anywhere, to Baker Street or to Bagdad. But man is a magician, and his whole magic is in this, that he does say Victoria, and lo! it is Victoria. No, take your books of mere poetry and prose; let me read a time table, with tears of pride. Take your Byron, who commemorates the defeats of man; give me Bradshaw, who commemorates his victories. Give me Bradshaw, I say!”

They've been trying this shit since before any of us were born.

To be fair far-right Christians see Demons in this cartoons.

You need to be at least 18 to post here, kiddo.

...The Diesel engines literally represent Diesel engines.

The Author disliked the rapid industrialization of the Rail Engine industry.

Why are braindead American women trying to project their ideas on things made half a year ago in another fucking country.

Far-right American dissenters of certain protestant sects.

This. The Reverend Awdry was a railway nerd; he helped set up the preservation society movement in the UK and was a founding member of the first preserved railway in the world.

Wait I thought Sup Forums hated vampirena. What did they do to anger tumblr?

This

It's the exact same thing, literally the exact same thing people claim in Tolkiens work.

The Orcs and Sauron represented uncontrolled Capitalistic corruption and rampant industrialization.

I find it ironic really that the American left is basically arguing against extremely left wing literature.

American liberals aren't liberals; They're left leaning conservatives

And the reason why Diesel was black?


British Railway livery at the time he wrote the book was BLACK.

I think the one you are thinking of was fake.
Although it probably is one of the most conservative cartoons on tv. Big on family and hard work and shit. So I wouldn't put it past the left to get mad at it.

>THE CHILDREN SHOULD NOT WATCH WHAT THEY WANT
>THEY SHOULD WATCH WHAT WE, THEIR SUPERIORS, WANT THEM TO WATCH. AND NOTHING ELSE
>THIS IS THE VERY BASIS OF A FREE SOCIETY YOU FASCIST PIGS

But journalism should be dead.
It's clear that there are too many people who have become incapable of observing and forming their own opinions, and instead rely on retarded shit like in that article to decide what they should believe.
The death of such things will ultimately benefit humanity.

Didn't tolkin later regret how he handled the orcs?

Tolkien’s work wasn’t allegorical.

Wouldn't a bigger issue be the fact that this community is apparently fine with its only form of rescue service and law enforcement be a group of PUPPIES?

Who okayed this?

Because he also hated the Standardization of the British Livery.

The Orcs were. hence Later interviews have tolkien regret using the Orcs as symbols of Industry.

Yes; he said that it went against his beliefs to have them be unable to repent and turn good.

This; previously even after nationalisation, the old railways, the LNER, GWR, LMS, etc all had their old livieries still standing. The standard black was basically a large blotting out of colour.

If anything, Diesel should be seen as the villain by these commentators; he represented a lack of diversity, technocracy, the removal of culture and romance.

>implying anybody watched that.

His issue with Orcs was basically this one , plus the many problems you have with the Elven origin of Orcs.

Neat.

That wasn't his biggest issue by far.

Tolkien was quite fine with Ultimate Good and Ultimate evil.

But he abhorred Allegory as it detracts from the story.

I'm actually 18 x 2

I'm honestly starting to believe in horseshoe theory.

This is somewhat more nuanced than the inflammatory headline would have you believe. Most parents and people know that children don't understand, implicitly or otherwise, the broader social contexts these shows build on. But if every single children's show has a white male figure in charge then children will assume that white males are natural leaders. The solution, according to the writer, isn't to remove these shows, but to put more diverse characters into positions of power.

Isn't communism just the state enforced sharing version of facism?

Hahaha what. This person is literally so sheltered they don't know that diesel smoke does look darker

Political clickbait shilling is cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/11 and >>>Sup Forumsrules/1
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>stop teaching kids there are layers of authority in life! true free adults don't have jobs, if you boss ask you to work for money, sue him!
nice life model they have there.

Long story short, fascism is basically a variant of socialism which allows private industry to survive as long as it is in service to the state coupled with intense nationalism.

I'm not going into the details, but they basically are pretty closely linked and fascism emerged out of socialist movements in Europe as a way to basically get it past the old guard and monarchists.

The Horseshoe theory is called a theory because it's a sociological practice.

It's actually quite real. You can see it in the very thread right now.

Thomas and to a lesser extent Tolkien were written by, at the time, left leaning English liberals focused on preservation and protection of things against rampant industrialization and unchecked Darwinnian like Capitalism.

Yet here we have the "Liberal left" of today calling them evil facists and basically cannibalizing and hating the protoforms of their own liberal base.

Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. Men ARE better leaders, because men don't worry about childbirth. Literally right there in the biology.

CNN doesn't need an orange-man to discredit them, they play themselves.

This. God's sake, take this person to a heritage railway for a day.

whites are the biggest demographic, from a profit standpoint you have much more to gain from casting your power fantasy role as a white boy

That's dumb, you are dumb.

Wouldn't that just be, by their own logic, telling whites they can't be leaders?

I just wanted to talk about PAW Patrol, because I thought this was an unusual but interesting perspective of the character dynamics.

European Facism and specifically Nazism draws inspiration from Karl marx.

Anyone got a nickname for this faggot yet? I'm starting to see him everywhere now.

Oh definitely. Marx would top my list as the person who has single handedly had the worst impact on history and society.

>kids don't understand things
>except the twitsted part when I tell you that it's wrong and racist, this will ruin them!
you need help.

He's just a butthurt lefty Sup Forums who's pissed that people keep pointing out how silly things are getting.

Why so many people talking about Mar shows nearly immediately they never read anything about him, outside of second hand opinions from university (((teachers)))

Sup Forums still has lefties?

Ms. Magazine once called it smart shaming and sexist, which actually made Lauren Faust write back to them.

Dunno if they're still active on there, haven't been on in years; but they're still around Sup Forums.

I know plenty about Marx. He was pretty much a horrible person with a horrible greedy ideology.

>but anti sjws are just as bad!
bruh, look at this fag trying to ruin my favorite cartoon as a kid.

...

I've read plenty on Marx as well as most of his works that are published in English.

This. When the fuck have anti-sjws done anything like this? Since when were they the moral arbitrators published in national newspapers?

I'm pretty sure Thomas The Tank Engine ruined itself.

Dont worry guys, our brain washing overlords mean us no harm.

Railway Stories or nothing fuckers.

Maybe the first few series...

Are all men good leaders? I would argue that socialization and opportunity have a lot more to do with leadership ability than your chromosomes. If boys are constantly affirmed when they try to lead a group, and girls are told they are being bossy and unlikable, then boys will naturally pursue more leadership opportunities and become better leaders. Nobody has to "worry about childbirth" in the age of contraception.

Kids don't understand fascism or racism. But if they watch television shows that portray white people as naturally superior, then they will susceptible to that type of thinking, such a black girl watching the show thinking she couldn't be Ryder.

I don't personally believe that there shouldn't be any white males shown in a position of power. I just think that society and children would be better off if they had role models that looked like them.

It used to be profitable to market cigarettes to children.

Nice trolling.

>Nobody has to worry about childbirth due to contraception

Not the issue, Women naturally want kids, they naturally want time off to raise those kids. Men raise their kids by working harder, women do not.

This is where your pay gap comes from.

>women naturally want kids
Source?

Dolf did nothing wrong.

>implying there are no white male children

reproduction is a biological imperative

Look up the massive outcry of 30-40 women not able to find a man and give birth to children due to them choosing careers.

Um... Isn't paw patrol about rescuing people and shit? Are cops, firemen, doctors and shit fascist now? Pretty sure the state having to pay someone to save and take care of your ass isn't fascism anywhere in the world.

You know who had firefighters?

Nazis! Why should we FIGHT fires?

>Paw Patrol
>fascists
Is this your brain on Toxoplasmosis?

I'm not american, I know you guys have the SJW shit but I refuse to thing things went at the point the fucking Paw Patrol and Thomas are being called nazi WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING? ARE YOU CRAZY OR SOMETHING? ON THE FUCKING CNN?

IS THIS EVEN THE REAL WORLD????
no way people can be THIS retarded

no way this is real, it cant be, people are crazy and retard nowadays, I get it but not THAT retard, do this kind of people know limits? how they even life? what happened to them? it must be a trol thing or something a group of cute cartoon puppies are now the fucking SS, what a fucking madness, please en this world

>Tolkien
>left leaning English liberal

Anarcho-monarchism is liberal? Okay.

That doesn't mean women "want" children. They just want to screw. See: every terrible mother

You did not read what I said.
>I don't personally believe that there shouldn't be any white males shown in a position of power.
I.e. I think that it's okay for white males to be shown in positions of power. I do not think they should be considered the default.

lmgtfy.com/?q=massive outcry of 30-40 women not able to find a man and give birth to children due to them choosing careers
Sorry, I'm not really seeing anything here.

We're at a point where anything that isn't blatantly left wing is fascist now

well Sup Forums is where they originated, but they were removed. lefty Sup Forums is in a state of diaspora

Chesterton on Sup Forums? What is this? Where am I?

Its the main thing SJW and Sup Forums have in common, even if there isn’t a real problem they will find one

You don't have to be any sort of political affiliation to be a crazy tinfoil fundie fucker.

Paw Patrol is more communist if anything considering its idea of an advent calendar is sheets of paper and broken crayons.