So how is the Indie Cartoonist/Animator/Writer/Comic Artist life going Sup Forums?

So how is the Indie Cartoonist/Animator/Writer/Comic Artist life going Sup Forums?

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i made more views and likes making shitty ms paint porn on tumblr than i do now not drawing shitty ms paint porn.

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Did somebody do a Dobson version of this yet?

Editor wants me to pitch more comics to the publisher. I've been procrastinating. The first book hasn't even come out yet. Mostly been too miserable to do any work.
Still waiting to hear back from some places about spec scripts I sent out.
All things considered I'm doing well. I just can't seem to allow myself to see my career as anything but mediocre. If not completely failing.

It needs an extra arrow pointing at that ugly watermark

>slaps patreon watermark onto even his shittiest of drawings to rake in that sweet, sweet sheckel at any opportunity

It's fun. Working on several things. Getting awesome feedback from everyone who's seen my stuff so far.

I'm trying to get better at drawing so I take some of my friends requests. It helped broaden my horizons

Only made six cartoons this year, but it was the best year of my seven years trying to be a Youtuber. Reached 100K subscribers in less than six months. Gonna make more vids next year so hopefully we’ll reach 200K even sooner.

fag

why does it seem like every artist I follow is one second away from a mental breakdown

I've been sitting on my hands. I don't think I've made a finished drawing this whole year. That being said, I got a promotion at work just before Christmas and I'll be moving into my own house soon so I'll have more freetime and my own space to draw/write soon.

Dunno. Most artists I follow were either smart enough to pursue something that would actually get them a real job (or at least something with a steady flow of money), which slows down their output of comics/cartoons or dumb enough to pursue art as a career and are now sitting on a useless degree with no talent, no portfolio, and no job.

delet

must suck sucking dick
hows the boss?
fag

>implying I'm smart
You're so kind in your assumptions, user.

what are you even saying?
are you retarded

It's going fairly good. I struggled with a recent cover commission, still waiting for approval on it. Kinda anxious about hearing back on a creator-owned pitch I tried out for. If I got it, it would be a MASSIVE career boost for me (in terms of profile and money)

At the penciling stage of a project and all momentum has been shot for me. Finding it hard to stay focused but maybe it's just all the Christmas distractions

question.
Are animators, cartoonist, etc a whites only profession?

>sucking dick
>boss
You think I have a real job. I don't.

I wrote a pilot script in a while. My best friend who is a big critic that can tear anything down easily actually liked the script, so that's a good sign.

He either liked it or felt so bad about how awful it was he wouldn't tell you the truth.

You’re fucking retarded

Said the retarded namefag.

lots of chinese desu

>why does it seem like every artist I follow is one second away from a mental breakdown

It's really hard to make a career out of just that, so most people either do it as a hobby so are super busy with both their actual career and their hobby, or they are having major money troubles. I should specify by "just that" I mean just doing what you want and having actual steady pay, not just cobbling together commissions and freelance gigs, though. If you are a graphic designer who does design in general, front end work, knows coding or programming and multimedia and all that shit too it's a different story but you're probably working on tv commercials or websites not on passion projects. Something like getting your own cartoon show is luck of the draw and to have a good (not outside/unlikely) shot need CalArts degree, big connections, and family money.

Finding moderate success, though not enough to support a living just yet, though I have found the means towards that goal, now it is just a matter of implementing their uses in a way that accommodates a healthy stable lifestyle.

Who /writing a comic while working retail/ here?

We'll all make it lads

I used to work retail while writing a comic, was depressing as shit. Now I'm at a better job and my comic is almost ready to be released.

For all you artists ITT, just how lucrative is the fetish porn market?

It's mostly a South Korean profession in the US.

Depressing.

I don't feel like making shit half the time, and my art is starting to show.
I still haven't gotten any attention for it yet,either.

>just how lucrative is the fetish porn market?
Depends on the fetish.

Hey, nice to see you out of the hyw threads.

My entire goal in college is to get a job that lets me have enough time to work on making a virtual band. Multimedia stuff is the new way to sell records, and I'm really interested in figuring out a way that lets me do lightshows with drones.

>Depraved enough to be willing to draw porn
>Not depraved enough to draw the disgusting fetishes that a mediocre artist like myself would need to draw to make decent or any cash

Eh I could but I would be wasting my ass and time.

Shit I like the title page already, I'mma buy your shit.

Damn man, I should buy this woman's works because she's amazing at her comics. She doesn't shoehorned stupid shit.

>2.5 weeks to the conference and none of the two audioplays are recorded
It's a longass time in theory but I've never done this kind of shit before lads.

I'm 3 pages into pencils on my first comic and already doing the work of networking through social media, but I'm putting the production on hold until applications for grad school are finalized. I've got big plans for next year, Sup Forums.

I’m waiting to hear back from Gisnep about a storyboarding/revisionist position. God I hope I get it, I’m sick of making three dollars a page six months late on fucking shit comics nobody goddamn reads for publishers nobody’s ever heard of.

Also downloaded a fuckload of books from /ic/; hoping to step my art game up and be Actually Good instead of Tumblr “Good”.

Draw tomboys/reverse traps.

That's the problem, I want to, but that's not one of the fetishes that has perverts throwing money hand over fist at you regardless of your talent or lack there of.
When I get my shit together I'm gonna make that Tomboy VN just like all the other amazing projects I'm gonna do

All artists are poor, insane babies.

I feel you man.
I would feel legitimately disgusted with myself spending hours drawing and rendering some anime bitch shitting a finely detailed turd into a messy diaper. I guess its shit like that that reminds me that I'm not beyond help.

Love your work

Not bad considering I got a sweet deal with a couple fellas who needed an artist for a porn game just wish I had more time to work on my own projects.

Animation Pilot for me, but still retail.

Neat.

Dude, as an older person, if you live in the U.S. don't even think about this as your primary income stream if you live in the U.S. I have known about a dozen people who have literally died here in America because they worked for themselves, a small business/owned a small business, or any company that didn't give great benefits because of the health insurance crap. Even people who made six figures every damn year. Those who haven't are just fairly young or have been pretty lucky but you're one car accident, random cancer mutation, or just getting older away from death in America. You must have a job with a big globalist/international corporation to be safe here (or okay live in a blue state), just do art on the side, man. If you live in any other country go ahead though because you can make a good living. Just a warning from someone who has been there in the United States.

It takes time to build up fans.

BUT it depends on art skill and style.

Nobody wants to follow a porn artist who's shit at drawing a basic human body. There's a reason why popular porn artists are makin' bank at Patreon.

Effort is rewarded.

No, not really. I think plenty of people follow non-white artists and don’t know it.

im still stuck on learning to draw basic figures and can only muster up the enthusiasm to make one drawing a day, but the good news is at this rate i might be able to call myself decent in about 10 years

I believe in you, user.

Are there some guides on how to start as indie artist? Like where should I start to post my works, where to expand, when to create patreon.
I'd like to start, but man am I too lazy and stupid for all the self-advertising and marketing.

Your stuff is pretty dope Kablowski

Pretty rough. I was in full production of this book mid-year, we're two issues in, then lost that job and the money dried up due to unforeseen bills. Getting recognition as a bum writer hustling online is pretty hard too.

I can't complain too much, I've made a few sales here and there, but things could be better.

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Just going to remind my fellow Sup Forumsmrades that submissions are open for the 'creators for creators' grant. I believe in you guys.

You have to draw white or manga-style characters most of the time, that's a given, they sell. But your own color/nationality doesn't really matters.

You're too lazy for self-advertising and marketing but you're not too lazy to post work and put in the effort to upkeep a Patreon?

Let's say not lazy but shy.
I'm not shy to post my works daily, but I don't think if I'd be able to advertise my page and works at random places of social media.

Good grief I'd want to do this so badly. Can't write for shit, though, and my only original stories barely push 20 pages. Guess I still have a few months to put something together...

> So how is the Indie Cartoonist/Animator/Writer/Comic Artist life going Sup Forums?
Just got to keep hustlin'

Twitter is good, tumblr still works but the shittiness of both SJWs and MRA types has dried it up a bit. I wouldn't try putting up a patreon until you have a solid number of followers, at least in the high hundreds if not thousands.

at least someone does

Got it. Thanks.

No worries, post a link to your stuff if you ever get it up.

Why the whiteface though, shitlord?

Seriously, good work

>When I get my shit together I will be a successful degenerate!
Why porn though?

Face painting, particularly with white colours or ash, is common

>is common
is common in many African cultures

I don't know why the end of my post vanished.

I know, I atually love it, and I'm glad you included it

Sorry, I'm not Juni.

Then I'm giving you (you)'s for nothing, freeloader

No, there are plenty of AA studios that have a "white bois need not apply" system right now, I'd link up with them. Shit, American studios do their HR through places like the UK and Australia to avoid EEO complaints over just throw wyppos applications in the trash and bitching them out over Twitter for being "gross".

Does giving up on launching a cartoon strip and working on puppetry count, user?

>tfw considering submitting stories to Dark Horse
>tfw currently unemployed
How long does it take to get published fellas?

A long fucking time.

Dark Horse isn't a great starting point, they have a massive slush pile, likewise Image. I'd suggest hitting smaller press like Iron Circus Comics and the like.

Self-publishing is your best bet. It’s pretty big right now. Putting your comic up on Gumroad or whatever is pretty popular

Its a tough road to walk though, so don't go in expecting lots of dosh to come your way.

From six months up to eternity, depending on talents.

Care to give your story? I'm interested.

True. I only ever broke 1k off a book because the Tumblr post somehow accumulated a fuckton of notes.

You got a store or something man ?
Shit looks rad as fuck

Lucky. I've barely scraped together more than a hundred.

Have no fucking clue what you are on about.

...

Use your freetime to get out of retail. Trust me.

I've been doing this for coming up two years in four months. I regularly get client work and I've been working on my own stuff and building a brand there.

It's still super difficult and I can have a bit of panic when I look in my bank account sometimes, but I haven't had a month where I haven't been able to pay bills / eat, so...yeah.

very good since I'm slacking on my comic job and putting more hours into my basic income stuff, which are pretty well paid. Will push more for art stuff in new year.
Any of you know any smaller publishers that aren't run by and for tumblr leftist faggots?

fuck me

Lads, I’m working as a graphic designer full time and stable, should I still aim for Calarts? I want to be an industry animator/artist

to me its simple (not easy tho)
just think hard on how much resources will it take on your part to get where you want. Time, money etc. And ask yourself if you are able to afford those sacrifices or will you, perhaps feel disheartened halfway. If you check said resources as affordable, you're good to go. Just push through and take your time. Enjoy the precess, not the effect.
To me most common mistake is people going from one end of the spectrum to the other, those ends being "I can do/be whatever I want" self-help- happy go lucky bullshit and the other being "bruh you can't just do what you want, bruh, it's harsh reality bruh, it'll wear you down". Truth being, as it tends to be, in the middle.
Also - consider if school is cencessary. Won't a pricey online course or intense summer course do the job? (Don't know, just suggesting to keep an open mind)

Are you the person that posted the design of that roman comic?