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Robert Sullivan
Snoke is a Joke
Colton Sanchez
Yeah, nah. Fuck off with your autism.
Xavier Evans
Are you a mod?
Sebastian Anderson
>ywn his voice narrating the start of an episode again
Adam Turner
Man, if they were going to have Kylo be the real villain all along, just make him be the real villain all along.
Cut out the middle man.
Isaiah Jones
>If you want to discuss Star Wars related movies, you go to You don't even know what its like over there! /swco/ is one of the few good boards to discuss star wars
Justin Wood
Sup Forums is a cesspool, and not a good place to talk about star wars by any margin
Hunter Stewart
>tfw I am at work and can't post waifu tourney autism until I get home JUST
Christopher Gray
I just consulted Akinator, trying to get him to guess Snoke, and this was his fucking answer. It's over.
Lucas Flores
Reminder that /swco/ likes Fifth Brother better than Snoke
Cooper Lee
Get rekt'd yurop
Thomas Perry
>Images and discussion should pertain to media of Western origin. Tbqh, Star Wars movies, games and books are media of Western origin - so they don't break rule 1.
Zachary Green
>Filoni does a new series taking place post-ROTJ >Yularen is retconned to have left the Death Star before the explosion with Tagge >Yularen narrates the opening of each episode
Jaxson Richardson
...
Owen Bell
I got curious and tried it. He lead me to some real-life serial killer, then to Palpatine, and finally Snoke.
Samuel Wright
Did the Kaminoans join the republic after the discovery of the clone army?
also, weren't there other parties that the republic comissioned to make more clones other than the kaminoans in the old EU?
what's the state of this in the nu-EU?
Christopher Brown
There was a senator of Kamino in TCW, said to have got that position due to Kamino's importance due to the army and shit.
Brody Howard
Who is the prettiest member of the rebel alliance and why is it Yendor?
Carson Martin
>GENERAL HUX. My disappointment in your performance cannot be overstated.
Oliver Johnson
They have representation in the senate during the Clone Wars, but I don't know if that meant Kamino formally joined the Republic or if their senator was really just there representing the business (sort of how the Trade Federation and other groups have their own senator).
Daniel Sanders
>not posting the superior version
Charles Rogers
>Did the Kaminoans join the republic after the discovery of the clone army? There is a Kaminoan senator, so yes, probably.
>also, weren't there other parties that the republic comissioned to make more clones other than the kaminoans in the old EU? Definitely not in canon, not sure about Legends
Robert Fisher
is that guy still translating the manga?
David Wilson
It's funny to me how organizations that were evidently known to have aligned themselves with the Seperatists were allowed to act like they haven't and keep their representation in the Senate
Carter Lopez
Going to carry this potential discussion over but not the other debate being had. >what was sheev's OG plan? I haven't seen TPM in years
>was he hoping to gain the chancellorship and start a large scale war early?
>Or was the clone army always part of the plan? One of the problems with TPM was that his plan didnt really make since as it was constantly changing on the fly. We see that Sheev just wanted a trade blockade for reasons. Then he decides to force Amidala to agree to it by force.
I can only assume his first draft was to make the Trade Federation into a powerful organization that would eventually just buy out the Republic and he would rule from behind the scenes. Clones were never part of the plan until way later. The thing about Sheev is that his plans were always changing so he could always benefit, no matter the result.
Lincoln Bailey
>Man, if they were going to make the Emperor the real villain all along, just make him be the real villain all along. >Cut out the middle man.
>Man, if they were going to make Sidious the real villain all along, just make him be the real villain all along. >Cut out the middle man.
Xavier Cruz
>liking men who look like girls >not girls with dicks Shit taste desu senpai
Tyler Flores
the way they look at each other is hilarious to me Aphra just looking at Hera with a shit-eating grin, and Hera done with her shit
Caleb Ramirez
Vader and his backstory were still important to the plot, and the CIS were always just patsies to widdle down the Jedi.
Snoke was built up to be something but ended up to be nothing.
>Vader and his backstory were still important to the plot Right, but Sheev's weren't until the PT came along. He literally had zero more development than Snoke.
Charles Diaz
A pretty man. Tits are lame even if they got dicks. Go full homo or go broke.
Noah Thompson
I THOUGHT THE MANGA CHANGED HIM TO A CHICK INSTEAD OF A DUDE FROM THE BOOK!
David Parker
>he didn't know
Josiah Taylor
ARE YOU BLIND?! Because he was the baseline villain. Snoke was literally just him, again, but not as cool.
Oliver Bell
>A pretty man
THIS FUCKING SITE, 10 YEARS ON THIS FUCKING SITE AND MAINTAINING MY HETEROSEXUALITY ONLY TO BE MET BY THIS
Caleb Barnes
>I THOUGHT THE MANGA CHANGED HIM TO A CHICK INSTEAD OF A DUDE FROM THE BOOK!
Dylan Phillips
>girls with dicks >calling others out on shit taste
As someone in the last thread pointed out, Sheev being presented as the emperor of the galaxy without any backstory isn't an issue since he's the first character in the saga presented that way. Once you move to a point where there's a new version of the Empire with their own ruler and he's also a dark side user, you start to ask where he came from and what sets him apart from Sheev.
Sheev doesn't necessarily require context because we first see him at a point where the Empire is already established. With Snoke, we see him as a point where the Empire was defeated, then resurrected as the First Order and suddenly this other powerful dark sider shows up. It raises questions.
Asher Rivera
T H I S H I S
Austin Morales
>not wanting to get fucked by FutAhsoka What are you, gay or something?
Brayden Collins
This won't derail the thread at all.
The prequels and their era was MY ERA, the one I grew up on. The reason Darth Plaguies is my favorite Star Wars novel is because it puts together every bit of PT era tie ins into one, coherent plot. It references the tutorial of Galactic Battlegrounds for fucks sake! It felt like a farewell to my childhood, as the PT era got left behind. I'll always love the PT for that.
Jeremiah Reyes
>tfw Aphra action figure won't be released until the fall
Liking best girl is suffering
Tyler Green
OT is my era, but that's cause in I watched my non special edition tapes almost religiously back in 98-99, and I was born in 94.
Add to that the fact that my favorite video game growing up was star fox 64 which feels very OT at times and also Rogue Squadron 1 and later 2, and you have a very young OTfag on your hands...
I liked the PT as a kid but only cause I was young and all I cared for were cool space explosions and shit. Once I grew up and mastered english all its problems became apparent. But I still appreciate a lot of it.
As a weird OTfag then I can tell you that your kind, PTfags, are ok, as long as you give credit where credit is due and don't pretend the PT is something its not, and that is it being good
Dylan Richardson
I have two problems with the Darth Plagueis novel that knock it down to my 2nd favorite Star Wars book. 1. Luceno mentions a Naboo/Gungan war, when Amidala in TPM says that "our two great societies have always lived in peace". 2. Luceno makes the treaty that Palp wants Amidala to sign in TPM about plasma, when that's clearly not what it was implied to be about in TPM. It was just a treaty to legitimize the occupation to erode confidence even further in Valorum's policies.
You went full retard at the end of your post. TPM is no more poorly made than RotJ.
Evan Ramirez
cheered up user, my smut and the other user's smut will probably be ready by then
Jack Mitchell
I am actually the other Sabaphra smut user lol
Noah Gomez
>and that is being good Now, this is my problem with OTfags.
You're fine with us disagreeing with you...as long as we agree with you.
Just fucking have your opinions instead of getting pissed someone doesn't share them.
Jaxson Myers
well, were on a mission from the force itself then user
Asher Cox
>You're fine with us disagreeing with you...as long as we agree with you. This. Goddamn is that attitude delusional.
Blake Rivera
Playing old SW games is making me nostalgic. Is TCW worth watching if I've never seen it? I've heard it has some good stuff but I'm really put off by the art design and the bad fight choreography I've seen.
Nicholas Sanchez
I want to see more of what Zahn had in mind for the Clone Wars when he was writing the Thrawn Trilogy, shit sounds cash.
Joseph Johnson
First couple seasons are meh but anything focusing on the clones are always a good watch.
Asher Thomas
>and the bad fight choreography If you're that "the ANH fight is good because I know HEMA fighting", just leave and never enter this thread again.
Joseph Russell
> It references the tutorial of Galactic Battlegrounds for fucks sake! Does it actually? Fuck that is great. I never read that book because I simply dont care for the prequel era, I love the GCW.
But there is nothing I love more then when books reference other stories done by different authors (bonus points if it is a different median) which really gives the feeling it is one connected universe.
Joshua King
>I'm fine with you as long as you know your place! I'm kind of doubting you're old enough to have grown up on N64 games dude
Bentley Wilson
Doubt it was more cash than all the great Clone Wars stories we've got.
Camden Howard
>I simply dont care for the prequel era Why not?
Camden Phillips
>PTfags, are ok, as long as you give credit where credit is due and don't pretend the PT is something its not, and that is it being good wew lads
James Perry
let me put it like this, The PT is no less SW than the OT, but in overall quality its 5 = 4 > 3 = 6 >>> 1 > 2
the good stuff in III is more spread out throughout the movie, while the good stuff in 6 is mostly anything that takes place in space, the death star, and in Dagobah
2 and 1 have vision, but its poor executions are overshadowed greatly by what 4 and 5 did. so from my point of view, in overall quality OT > PT I just can't see it the other way, and I'm not pissed at your opinions user, hanging out with your lot for the past 3 years have made me much more tolerant than what I was during my dark times as a SWfag, circa 2008 to the sell to the mouse
Angel Long
so kylo ren is now our main villan
how do you feel about this?
Nicholas Hernandez
You just backtracked the final sentence of your initial post.
Gavin Nelson
Yeah I phrased that poorly, you guys have my apologies, your entitled to your opinions, even if I view them as wrong and feel that you're subjectively wrong
Nathaniel Kelly
Gonna get coup'd by Hux in the first act of 9
Parker Sullivan
It's a one off line that references Starfighter too, when Sidious derides the Trade Fed for losing their factories on two planets (the final level of Starfighter and the tutorial planet of Galactic Battlegrounds). I played the shit out of GB as a kid so that tickled me in particular. No need to interrogate the guy. I don't really like this attitude when getting it from OTfags, we shouldn't do it ourselves because "they did it first!".
Aaron Lewis
See
Jaxson Turner
I think I found the key to all of this
Leo Flores
But that's not Sarco Plank
Jose Campbell
sorry, but unless the character is a literal transgender mtf person, then I consider futa to be downright retarded as a fetish it needs to be believable for me to get into it and "lol it's a girl with a full girl physique but also happens to have a dick for magical reasons" is so immersion breaking it fucking hurts
William Robinson
I'd like to see him get new gear but I'm not sure about that design. Seems to heavy on the armor. Maybe something closer to the Knights of Ren, since I wouldn't be surprised if they return.
Oliver Johnson
what the fuck
Josiah Perez
My view is, as a PTfag, while they have a fair few problems (some acting, unnecessary retcons), the only movie I'd call outright a bad movie is AotC, and there is so much in that movie I fucking love anyway.
TPM and RotS aren't flawless by any means but I still think they're ultimately good movies.
James Cox
That's a puffy alien vagina you weirdo
Samuel Miller
I actually liked Zahn's idea better. The Republic is peaceful when the outside Clone army attacks. The Clones are bred quickly, and are elite, better then anything the Republic has to defend themselves with. The war goes terrible for the Republic, the only thing holding the Clones back is the Jedi Generals who join the army (like KotOR's Mandalorian Wars)
Some where there is a Stalingrad style battle that turns the tide and allows the Republic to drive the Clones back. Its a cool story of desperation that is completely lost in the Clones vs Droids story.
Dont get me wrong, when I was younger I loved the era. But as I grew up my taste changed. Now I find it boring, before the Clone Wars its a basic setting, during the Clone Wars its a story of cannon fodder vs cannon made of metal. Not really interesting. (The TV helped fixed this problem I know) The GCW however is a story of families and friends being torn apart as loyalties end up on different sides of the conflict. It makes the war a very dramatic story.
Finally, over saturation over prequel stuff really killed the era for me.
>It's a one off line that references Starfighter too, That is still great in my eyes. Not 1 but 2 obscure references. I actually really appreciate that user. Helps make the work that much more connected in my eyes. That author is up there for sure as one of my favorite SW authors. I love Labyrinth of Evil
Isaac Perry
>during the Clone Wars its a story of cannon fodder vs cannon made of metal. This is such a meme. That's merely the backdrop. >I actually liked Zahn's idea better. Yeah, but ideas and execution are different things. Filoni is a better director than Zahn is a writer.
Christian Perez
>TPM and RotS aren't flawless by any means but I still think they're ultimately good movies.
I really need to rewatch TPM cause to me the only redeemable part about it is the action sequences, they're beautiful, but the humor falls completely flat, little kid Anakin is annoying at times, the dialogue feels weird at times, and George's lack of external input is really apparent, even watching it as a kid, something always felt odd about that one, and I liked AoC more but that was probably cause the clone troopers made the click in my 8 yo head that said "oh they're like early storm troopers"
Joseph Lee
>desperation that is completely lost Did you not see RotS and/or read Dark Times? I'd call Order 66 a cool story of desperation.
Wyatt Martinez
Reminder, Magnaguards are superior to Both Era Royal Guards.
Jace Clark
>The Republic is peaceful when the outside Clone army attacks. The Clones are bred quickly, and are elite, better then anything the Republic has to defend themselves with That's basically the most generic idea everyone had when "the Clone War" got namedropped. I'm glad that Lucas didn't go in that direction, it'd be boring tbqh.
Christian Phillips
makes more sense then nu canon.
Zachary White
Also, what said.
In the canon, the Kanan comics show it as well. One moment you fight an even war against the droid, with the clones having your back, fighting alongside you as your comrades. Then the next thing you know, they suddenly attack you. Even if you have survived, you find yourself alone with no support whatsoever, no ability to get off-world, and an entire clone platoon wanting you dead.
Order 66 put Jedi in an extremely desperate situation.
Adrian Cooper
I think the Jar Jar hate is exaggerated, personally. He's dumb and unnecessary after they leave Naboo, but he's not this evil abomination that should have died. The real shame is the hate went onto the rest of the Gungans too, who don't deserve it.
TPM's light-heartedness is what makes it work for me, personally. It really gives a feel of a more hopeful era, something that will be destroyed by the coming war and rise of the Empire.
Julian Murphy
What are the chances of episode 9 going to coruscant.
Robert Scott
What do you mean? Literally the best thing about NuCanon is that it makes more sense than Legends ever did.
Henry Sanders
>That's basically the most generic idea everyone had when "the Clone War" got namedropped. But don't you know? Fans know better than Lucas. That's why the sequel trilogy is so great.
William Hughes
Low.
Liam Davis
Hux is gonna betray him with the first order, and he'll end up working with the Resistance to fuck them over
Owen Robinson
AOTC is actually pretty great. Take out the romance scenes and exchange them for all the deleted ones like pic related. And the movie is 3.85.
Gabriel Hughes
slim to none. it might show up in one of the spin off movies though.
Juan Reed
How dare they mock Darth Sion
Ayden Lopez
There's a possibility since Sheev had a palace there
Oliver Stewart
>This is such a meme. That's merely the backdrop. Except that is what is going on in the war. Its not really a meme if that is what is going on.
>Yeah, but ideas and execution are different things. 100% Agree. The prequels are perfect examples of that. Great ideas, struggled with execution.
>Filoni is a better director than Zahn is a writer. I almost laughed. I love all of Zahn's books and I consider Filoni terrible. The only thing of Filoni's I like are his clone focused episodes because the Clones dont act like Clones.
Completely was a bad choice of words. Order 66 was excellent. However I was talking about desperation as the entire Republic feeling on the verge of defeat. Not depressing mind you, like KotOR 1, the Republic is desperate for a victory, but the game isnt depressing. Clone Wars mostly misses that. Though some stories get it like Jabiim, but thats an individual battle as opposed to a war.
And you are right, I really liked the Kanan comic, but that desperation is a small scale as opposed to the entire Republic feeling this. And Remember that the Jedi Purge still would happen so its not like that would disappear.
Now I do agree Order 66 is far more powerful in Lucas' Clone Wars then Zahn's. I love Order 66, but its not like the Purge disappeared in Zahn's version of the Clone Wars. It still happened.
>it'd be boring tbqh More boring then cannon fodder vs cannon fodder?
