Jon Bernthal to his "alt-right" Punisher fans: "Fuck them"
>I noted that the Punisher’s symbol, a skull with long fangs, has been spotted on military helmets in Iraq and biker jackets, and was seen on the shoulders of alt-right protesters at the white-supremacy rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
>“I feel honored to play a guy who people putting their life on the line identify with,” Bernthal said.
>the left is this obsessed with a movement only a few hundred people will publicly claim What did they mean by this?
Carson Long
I'm a little torn. On the one hand I feel like saying "People who are concerned with the impact these lunatic trolls have on election results, particularly republican primaries."
But then you look at the Roy Moore thing in Alabama and it's hard to say that there's actually even a sliver of difference between the alt right and the republican mainstream in terms of the way they approach candidates at this point, so maybe you're right. Maybe they are just regular republicans and they're just more... honest about their misanthropy.
Nolan Bennett
I hate this. I hate this because no matter what position I take on this, I lose. Calling out die-hard Punisher fans is shit, but then I lose because I'm a "neo-Nazi sympathizer". Pointing out that him making a public statement catering to the neo-Nazi opposition and reinforcing the non-watching so-called "fan base" that ruined what had the potential to be good causes me to lose because I'm still a "neo-Nazi sympathizer". Saying, "Hey, good on Bernthal for pointing out that Frank Castle didn't have a political agenda in his good runs in the 80s and early 90s" has me lose still because I'm a "fucking liberal".
I hate this so much.
Oliver Smith
As if most white supremacist themselves don't advocate a closed doors policy. White supremacist only let you know they're white supremacist when they feel confident and typically hide from public exposure.
Charles Lee
What did he say about his antifa fans then? Nothing? Typical
Easton Hughes
>Calling out die-hard Punisher fans is shit. No it's not. Liking the punisher doesn't absolve you of Advocating for white racial supremacy
Gabriel Davis
>Calling out die-hard Punisher fans is shit Nope. The neo-Nazis brought it on themselves the moment they associated the Punisher with their hate rallies.
Kayden Mitchell
It may not be political correct for me to say this but America has a right wing problem.
Jose Thompson
Are you fucking for real? You can't be this retarded.
Henry Clark
Thanks for proving my point.
Justin Brown
samefag
Ayden Bailey
>catering to the neo-Nazi opposition AKA Normal people.
Zachary Sullivan
>The punisher >not political
Xavier Kelly
>Calling out die-hard Punisher fans is shit
Since when were die-hard Punisher fans neo-nazis?
Jackson Morgan
It's almost as if the Punisher takes out street-level criminals, all of which are minorities...
Jayden Baker
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Nicholas Green
I'm pretty sure Frank is anti-fascism.
And no, I dont consider that Secret Empire shitshow canon.
John Allen
>Pointing out that him making a public statement catering to the neo-Nazi opposition So you admit you actually support neo Nazis?
Justin Murphy
And this is how I know you're a casual from Sup Forums
Nice bait though.
Anthony Gonzalez
I miss Ennis' Punisher/War Zone's Punisher stance of "he's a force of nature that fucks over everyone." Even the political aspects felt like they were just there in MAX as opposed to a push.
Dylan Morales
>And no, I dont consider that Secret Empire shitshow canon.
Well, tbf, Frank has enormous respect for Cap and if Cap told him this reality was a sham and he could eradicate all crime with the cosmic cube, I would think Frank might roll with it. It was pretty stupid that Frank had no qualms about it, especially after Vegas.
Jonathan Brooks
The alt right which cosplays as the punisher because they can't form their own identity
Isaac Reed
lol why do they post here? they don't even read comics
Cameron Jackson
They read single pages which cater to their alt right agenda and then they form an echo chamber to either support to attack whatever the page is about
Caleb Walker
Same reason why people legitimately think D&C is a voice of authority in the comic scene: they want an avenue to bitch about muh SJWs, even if they have no idea what they're talking about.
Alexander King
Regardless of his political ideology, the only constants that he has are: 1) Don't kill innocents; 2) Don't kill cops; 3) Kill everyone else.
He has enough respect for Cap to not kill him, but he's fought against him many, many times, and Frank has proven he doesn't give a damn what anyone else says. Being independent for so long makes it hard for me to believe that he would fall in to a regime. Even his former military buddies don't like working with him, anymore.
No, I'm a fucking liberal because I also posted, ""Hey, good on Bernthal for pointing out that Frank Castle didn't have a political agenda in his good runs in the 80s and early 90s."
Cooper Wood
fpbp
Parker Myers
>Frank isn't part of the alt-right
Matthew Anderson
Most of the people the Punisher kill were white. The Punisher also doesn't give a shit about race. He judges a man by his actions.
Kayden Allen
You also posted >catering to the neo-Nazi opposition >neo-neo-nazi opposition Which is just a flatout admission that you support neo-nazis.
Hunter King
Even #2 is negotiable, it's more like a practical consideration to avoid getting more law enforcement attention. If you're a corrupt enough cop, you still aren't safe.
Bentley Hernandez
Except the alt-right doesn't considering anyone that isn't R1a or R1b "white", which means Black Cullens and Italian mob families don't count in their eyes.
You also posted >cater... to the neo-Nazi opposition >... just ... support neo-nazis. Pot, meet kettle.
Tyler Perez
Roy Moore was already locked down as the candidate when the allegations came out.
Why don't communists do the same?
Grayson Jenkins
Roy Moore was still disbarred twice from the supreme court of Alabama because he literally went against the law of this land.
Asher Reyes
tbqh I always thought it was dodgy for cops and soldiers, who are acting on behalf of law & order, to use the symbol of a vigilante who murders whoever he wants
also retarded for aut-righters to use the symbol since Frank would kill them too if they ever tried to carry out le day of le rope
Camden Peterson
That just makes him a good Christian on Alabama. Muh God > Muh Law, unless Muh Law > YOUR God.
Aaron Bennett
Don't show the alt right that. They would be upset because they're dead set on moving the American embassy to further legitimize Israel
Michael Mitchell
the (((alt-right)))
Blake Carter
Making Israel legitimate is somehow the next part of the plan to exterminate the Jews, because I guess if you gather all the really fanatical ones into one spot and accidentally glass it, then the ones who are subversive Jews will prove themselves by appearing out of the woodwork so the wetwork can begin.
Or something like that, I don't know, that's what these silly-Billies keep ranting and raving about.
Jaxon Jones
yeah, it's not cool when cops do it when your peacekeepers idolize a vigilante you know you're fucked
Henry Peterson
There is more jews in America than there is Israel. Ironically the jews who came to the U.S from Europe contributed a lot more to the growth of the U.S than those alt-righters.
But you can't let them know that. >tfw a holocaust survivor used his own body to shield his students as they escaped from a gun man.
Zachary Flores
>tfw a holocaust survivor once gave up every worldly possession he had to give the children at the YMCA a real Christmas, even though he was Jewish, and he froze to death at the end of Hannukah I can't believe alt-righters want to kill people like that.
Grayson Baker
Once the Jews got israel they finish building the temple which means Jesus will come and kill all the jews which is why the american right supports Israel.
Gabriel Watson
This is kinda funny because Jews believe that they are the only ones who will be spared, which is why they're willing to use the Samson Option because they believe they'd be protected from nuclear hellfire by their descending Messiah.
It's like spiritual MAD.
Christopher Russell
Hitler had an interest in the occult, right? Was ww2 him just trying to stop the jews unleashing Armageddon? Was ww2 just some fuckers larping? did my grandfather die for autism?
Parker Lewis
>Nigga who cares That's what they said about the sjws, now look at us. Madness must be quelled quickly before it spread like a wildfire.
Joshua Bell
If you want to believe in metaphysics the swastika is a solar symbol, whereas Solomon's seal is a lunar symbol. Jewish tradition is heavily matriarchal, with the heredity of it being passed down the mother's line, even though the powers that be are invested only in men because only men can utilize magic, though women are more than capable of instigating it, especially through sexual rights and practices. The use of the swastika was to directly oppose Judaism, and it was working marvelously until other magical symbols started to appear and the Aryan magic seized and died.
WWII was the event that changed human history as much as the sacking of Rome and the French Revolution did, because of the spiritual impact that it had on the people that participated. Everyone says that the swastika was being fueled by hate and death, when it, being a solar symbol, is generated by a spiritual awakening and a focus on a higher ideal than what's on Earth. Solomon's seal, being an earthly, womanly signet, was greatly empowered by blood and destruction, just as it has always been in history, and why Judaism thrives on its own suffering and dispersion. No other religious group has been assaulted as much as the Jews, and yet still survived millennia in spite of it.
Jackson Carter
Both Christians and Muslims believe that Jews will be killed during the rupture. Even the trees will call them out, "Oh followers of God, there's a Jew behind me." So Jews are 1:2 here.
Dylan James
>tfw he actually sent some people to find the Holy Grail >believed in some stupid aryan animals that he tried to have remade Yes, maybe you'd have the opportunity in the near future.
Elijah Young
So Jews are just saving up their Limit Break?
Gabriel Cox
I wonder if they saw these opportunities and thought "Yes, this is why I survived, to do this one thing" The amount of dead throughout human history due to autism gone wrong is probably a staggering figure.
Matthew Ward
There's no real "unleashing" of a symbol, it's just the amount of power it has is how much magic can be used by it by magicians. Magic is very much real, more than just prestidigitation by stage hands, but very few people know how to use it because it's not a written tradition. It's entirely oral. Judaism has an oral tradition, and those secrets are what gives them power. Milquetoast Christianity and radical Islam, as written traditions, do not; they are a collection of discourses and letters collected and recorded. Militant Christianity in the form of the Templars possessed strong magic because of their rites and orders, and Islam in the early Arab world when Mecca was the source of scientific enlightenment used to have a very grand power that is now almost entirely diminished. "Greater jihad" and "lesser jihad" have almost entirely lost their meanings.
Joseph Miller
>I wonder if they saw these opportunities and thought "Yes, this is why I survived, to do this one thing" Probably. A lot of holocaust survivors turned out to be a lot kinder/more humble than the average person, mainly because of their experience.
The real kicker to this is that one holocaust survivor was a former veteran to the German Empire during WWI
Jack Bailey
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Xavier Carter
>Risky your life to defend your home country >Mega autist comes along, hijacks the country >Involuntarily participate in the Holocaust Source? Else I'd be forced to attribute this to Kafka.
Joshua Powell
Alt-right was an invention of the leftist media to demonize young Republicans
Sebastian Davis
Leftist media was an invention of the alt right to demonize people who tell the truth
Noah Parker
Didn't "liberal media" exist before "alt-right"? This isn't really a "chicken or egg" situation.
Dylan Diaz
yes, Ive heard the term being used since the 90s at least.
Connor Fisher
what is he going to do, say that he likes the Alt-Right.
he is an actor he works in LA he needs money
Zachary Price
the punisher represents the Republican thoughts on capital punishment, death penalty
Owen Bell
The alt-right is more against Jewish power control than they are against "the Jews". But they still have a collectivist mentality of "never trust a Jew", even though the person who coined the term "alt-right" back in 2007 was literally a Jew named Paul Gottfried.
>tfw the alt-right is a Jewish movement and they don't even know it
Jackson Wright
>No other religious group has been assaulted as much as the Jews, and yet still survived millennia in spite of it. That's bollocks. Just because Holocaust is the only thing that western education teaches you, doesn't mean that Jews were the only suppressed group.
Lincoln Lee
Not that guy, but here is a Jew who survived in the SS and Hitler's best buddy who avoided the Holocaust and helped found the SS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
Alt-Right is never going to accept him as a founder.
Austin Williams
fuck u im a long time punisher fan and i aint not fucking white supremacist, all criminals no matter race or creed or colour are all equal shot to hell
Ethan Perry
Define 'liberal media' considering that the alt right calls a lot of things liberal that arent.
Jayden Parker
>america >right wing
Parker Diaz
Didn't he find the holy grail in Liverpool?
Chase Gomez
>He has enough respect for Cap to not kill him, but he's fought against him many, many times, and Frank has proven he doesn't give a damn what anyone else says. Being independent for so long makes it hard for me to believe that he would fall in to a regime. Even his former military buddies don't like working with him, anymore. also there was a character called the elite who was a racist that he called out then killed
Grayson Hughes
Anything that doesnt support my agenda
Hunter Reed
Yup. The "alt-right" is just an ad-hom that leftists and neocons use against everyone who isn't a leftist or a neocon. It's an umbrella term for a collection of people who actually have very little in common ideologically; everyone from centrists to neo-nazis. And yet there are still retards out there who proudly refer to themselves as "alt-right".
Robert Peterson
Jewish diaspora has been a thing since NebuCHADnezzar was snorting ancient-era cocaine off the tits of Khazar hookers in a dimly-lit den. The Jews have been persecuted since Abraham's covenant, mostly due to getting into the most profitable of businesses due to their intelligence and fucking over the angry natives, whereas the majority of other religions either perpetually existed like Christianity (after its relatively short persecution period) and Hinduism, or ceased to exist like Zoroastrianism or various pagan religions.
Robert Nelson
Not that user, but what would it be? Weren't Jews a bad thing for the Inquisition? Also, they weren't really friends Muslims. That's a weird place to find it.
Michael Rivera
he fought off a group of skinhead thugs when he was studying acting in russia. the dude just hates nazis tbqh.
Andrew Powell
they were pretty much fucked up though, the babylonians scattering them, Romans occupying Judea, The 2nd (?) crusade taking them out of the Rhinelands, Pogroms in communist countries. They have been getting their asses kicked since the Greek hegemony.
Benjamin Hernandez
Well, they probably stole it
Elijah Kelly
it become a thing when the alt left and commies keep calling any one that disagreed with them alt right, including liberal media and hollywood cunts, you shit on people long enough they will start shit right back
Matthew Lee
That guy was 1/4 Jewish. Contrary to popular belief, Hitler actually didn't round up anyone who was 1/2 Jewish or less unless they were practicing Jews. Part-Jews were still generally considered second-class citizens but they weren't removed or gassed.
Of course the modern-day "alt-right" seems to have more strict definitions for what determines a Jew, even to the point where I've seen some people on Sup Forums referring to Jake and Logan Paul as Jews because they're apparently like 1/16th Jewish despite looking like Aryan Chads.
Samuel Morgan
I believe the African-Americans said it best in their popular music: "Talk shit, get hit."
Eli Anderson
I guess that user is referring to new adventures of Hitler.
Andrew Clark
Americans have a history of discrimination unlike any other. The One-Drop Rule is a core tenet of all racially-fueled groups, not just among pro-white organizations, but even among African-Americans that do not belong to a faction. Dark-skinned blacks call the lighter-skinned ones "house niggers" in a derogatory manner, for example.
Elijah Gonzalez
1/4 a Jew is still a Jew.
Landon Bennett
>Of course the modern-day "alt-right" seems to have more strict definitions for what determines a Jew, even to the point where I've seen some people on Sup Forums referring to Jake and Logan Paul as Jews because they're apparently like 1/16th Jewish despite looking like Aryan Chads. >American Neo Nazis are even more of a Nazi than actual Nazis Holy fucking shit. And I thought that whole "Jesse Owens shook Hitler's hand but America didn't" was something else.
Christian Anderson
>1/4 a Jew is still a Jew. Literally Hitler himself didn't think so.
Nicholas Myers
>Americans have a history of discrimination unlike any other. Our discrimination is mild when compared to others though. Any of the Asian nations and their treatment towards another Asian nation is by far the worse.
You're not going to get discriminated that much in the U.S unless your like Native-American, fuck them. They deserve everything bad that happens to them.
Cooper Rivera
Nigga I'd hate Nazis too if I was Jewish.
Aiden Bennett
Source?
Blake Phillips
>Any of the Asian nations and their treatment towards another Asian nation is by far the worse. Japan isn't Asia user. As far as I'm concerned, even China didn't bother conquering other lands so much and mostly stuck to trading. The SEA islands didn't really care about others neither.
Blake Jones
The gays and Jehovah's witnesses also rounded up would fudge those estimates up a bit as well I think.
Caleb Nelson
Occupying armies in wars of agression are OK, as long as they don’t openly support Trump? LOL.
Colton Richardson
We started a civil war over it when one side wanted to end it and the other attacked them for it only to get their asses handed to them
Noah Price
>You're not going to get discriminated that much in the U.S unless your like Native-American
Ayden Garcia
'Civil war was/wasn't about slavery' is a whole thread's topic (It wasn't though)
Juan Moore
Slavery was part of the Civil War, but the biggest part to the Civil War was that the landed aristocracy in the South wanted to continue jacking itself off and not modernize worth shit as it would fuck up their hold on it.
>Confederacy Constitution bans any state from not being a slave state >Muh state rights >Confederacy becomes more centralized than the U.S as the war dragged on. As a southerner this got my sides a going.
Angel Green
Gonna have to stop you right there, The War of Northern Aggression started by the North refusing to recognize states' rights after the South legally seceded from the Union, illegally capturing Fort Sumter, illegally blockading the Confederacy's ports, and then invading by crossing the Mason-Dixon, not to mention going into debt by massively importing and investing in foreign cottons and tobaccos out of pure spite to fuck up honest, red-blooded Americans who were defending their lands, only to have Sherman's March irrevocably fuck up many people's lives, heritage, and inheritances, along with carpetbaggers, a lack of habeus corpus on that tyrant Lincoln's part, and forcing those who surrendered to swear a demeaning, humiliating oath just to be able to serve in their legal positions you damnyank.
Eli Sullivan
Do the Americans really still hate the Natives?
Joseph Adams
Not him and I hate to derail the thread but it kinda was. The North wanted to reunite the country(which originated from having to retaliate against the South for attacking them) while the South literally did everything over slavery.