So just for examples sake, lets say we're Jeph Jacques and what is suppose to be one of the most touching parts of your story turns out to be so crap its the biggest meme to come from webcomics since Loss. How do you recover from that?
Samuel Price
Questions I got for Mitch and Otto:
1. Who wins in a fight between Goku and Superman? What do you think of Death Battle?
2. Following off 1 what do you think of Superman as a character? How do you write for powerful characters?
3. What do you think of Kamala Khan/Squirrel Girl/Carol/Jane Thor?
4. How would you save Marvel Comics?
5. How would you save
Tyler Scott
What's something you always fuck up or that you wish you were better at?
Because I usually draw large feet, hands and heads when I'm doodling, I always draw those elements too large (or overcompensate and draw them too small) when trying to break out of that style. My friend will see a drawing of mine and ask "is he supposed to be 5 feet tall?" because the slightly oversized head throws everything off.
Jordan Thomas
I had mentioned it last thread, but just so that I am motivated to get more work done tonight on the formatting, HTML coding, etc. and upload something other than a placeholder image, here is a link to the page I made for my comic "Straight & Narrow" over at Comic Fury: straightandnarrow.the-comic.org/
>Thread Question There is no such thing as bad word of mouth. Look at Loss. Frankly, I didn't know who Buckley was until then, and his work has transcended his webcomic and become a modern art movement because of this one thing. We should all be so lucky as to bring so much to the table.
Hunter Nelson
>4. How would you save Marvel Comics? What happend to it?
Your intelligently stupid comics make me feel dumb for not knowing what they refer to sometimes.
Jonathan Cruz
Personally I don't think CF has actually gone after kids. He's too socially awkward and withdrawn to actually molest children in real life, I hope.
Tyler Parker
It would help if you showed us your process. Is there one? There's a ton of subtle errors but few major ones. the 21st century
Benjamin Butler
I recommend Michael Hampton book.
Nathaniel Torres
I mean yeah, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't if given the chance. If he was stranded on an island with a 10 yr old loli you don't think he would hit that
Jeremiah Hernandez
Island rules are different from mainland rules, everyone knows that.
Alexander Scott
who the fuck wouldn't?
Carter Powell
What's disturbing is the lengths he will go to justify his behavior.
He refuses to disavow or even comment on pedophilia, and in his comic strawman protesters fight against a strip club for gnome people with explicitly child shaped bodies. And he defends this by saying he knows a girl online that's underdeveloped (or someone claiming to be a girl that's underdeveloped) and so that makes it okay.
Like I get it. If your'e a girl born with some kind of hormone disorder where you keep looking like a child like that Batman villain yeah, life is going to suck. But the people that are sexually attracted to you have something wrong with their brains and need treatment. It's not natural or normal or healthy to want to fuck something that looks prepubescent.
William Murphy
>tfw even if you had the power to make webcomic girls real, they wouldn’t want to fuck you...
Hudson Hughes
And your standards of development speed or breast size or height are the only ones, right? Some people aren't just a little short, or born premature, or not fed properly in their youth. Different thinking and preferences must NOT be tolerated, unless it's homos, trannys, or anything else on our specific list we decided on
Lucas Wilson
Most of the times, they become memes because of how delusional the creators are that those parts are actually good, powerful, and have major impact to the stories and on the readers.
Jace Russell
>tfw your characters are either slutty or desperate enough that they would
Leo Ortiz
At this point you shouldn't focus on anatomy, but rather form. You should unironically look into Loomis/Hampton and do some figure studies. Focus on learning to portray the human figure as a 3D object before delving deep into anatomy.
Landon White
Theres a difference between literally looking like a child, and not being completely developed.
Matthew Moore
back when he still had his marbles, Ghastly's Ghastly Comic did nearly the same gag about a chibi girl. Had glowing dick jokes too and something about everyone in anime losing their pubes from radiation.
Nolan Green
Hey cape world, what’s the best time to get your attention in these threads? I’d like you to review a story idea I have, if that’s alright by you.
Nolan Perez
Not really, but let's go with that. Which one do you think gnomes are? What about elves? How do pixy fairies factor into this? We need to get these morals set down in stone.
Xavier Long
hey this is pretty helpful, thanks user i'll look into the anatomy books
Ryder Cox
well none of those things are real, so it's quite simple, just stay under your state/county's law
John Hill
Otto here, short answers now longer answers on the podcast.
Which will be on the site SOON. Keep checking back!
1. Superman. It will always be Superman. The dials go up to eleven
I like Death Battle. The hosts are horribly unfunny and have no taste in fiction, but it makes me feel like a kid again. I enjoy it both because of the incredible salt it generates and for the times they really nail the fight scenes.
2. I can't really answer this one without a bias because I'm a huge Superfag. I honestly think he's one of the few fictional characters that will never fade away. As for writing powerful characters the key is to approach them from different angles other than raw power. Approach them with weird situations and puzzles to solve.
3. They're going to be looked back on like people look back on X-Force and Youngblood, as cringy symbols of the time.
4. I wouldn't. Disney closing them up and outsourcing the IPs to DC would be the best thing to happen to them.
5. I wouldn't. Close up the shared universe and start competing with Marvel by making Vertigo and Young Animal inspired movies. Don't try and be dark, be weird and alternative. Make a Doom Patrol movie. Make an OMAC movie.
Ian Allen
>pedo defense force activate!
Josiah Peterson
This is Tabitha, she's gonna be in the next chapter.
This is actually a redesign of one of my oldest characters! people who have been following me for a while may recognize her.
Nathaniel Green
If my state/county ever starts trying to tell me what to draw, I'm going to violate it twice as much out of principle.
Brayden Moore
The name sounds familiar, and I remember a blue girl. Might be thinking of the target guy though. I know this is just the design, but when she goes into the comic will you draw the yellow stripes so they follow the shape of the hair?
Aiden Ortiz
My favorite thing about CF is how he, as a 30+ year old virgin, thinks he should preach his ideas on sexual morals to the whole wide world through his weeb comic. God bless his crusade to share his opinions on having sex with underage and "neotenous" individuals. Thanks to him if I ever encounter a horny loli in a cave, but want to save myself for marriage, I'll know the exact protocol for that situation.
Justin Gray
1. Coldfusion needs to be required to wear his trip.
2. Coldfusion can you really not tell the difference between being attracted to short girls with A-cups and women who look like children?
There's a lot more than just height and boobs that seperate a woman's shape from a child. Waist the hip ratios, the proportions of the legs to the arms and torso, obvious signs of maturity that healthy, sane men are attracted to while men in need of psychiatric care are attracted to the reverse.
See pic related? Coldfusion you aren't even defending being attracted to the 14 year old in puberty. You aren't defending the murky grey area. You're actually defending being sexually attracted to what's left of the 14 year old you creepy fucker.
Juan Adams
yeah, it's pretty simple really, just put the lines of the stripes on the corners of the hair.
Caleb Bell
Finding a lot of satisfaction with your 21st century casual sex lifestyle? Good luck with that. At least you can rest easy knowing you're on the right side of history, right?
Dylan Flores
I only have two pages roughed so far but I'm wondering how should I go about this. I know there are a million methods to making comics but I wanna hear some opinions.
Is it better to have the entire chapter or whatever thumbnail'd out before you start on pages?
Do you complete each page as you go(sketch>tighten up/ink>finish) or get them all sketched out and then go back and ink all at once?
How do you keep from burning out on doing one thing? Any tips?
So far I have a rough outline for the plot of the first arc, then some rough plans for each chapter, and finally a summary of this first chapter I'm doing. I have characters' designs sketched out and some rough layouts of the major buildings that the story takes place in.
Is there any more prep work I need to do? Even further, how do you build a world?
I want to have a weird 90's-esque lite cyberpunk atmosphere but I just don't know where to begin. I've been watching a lot of films/anime to get inspiration but I don't know how to organize ideas or successfully build something of my own.
Isaiah Edwards
There's a little more to it than that. See how the stripes kind of take a sharp turn once they get past the spiky part? I have a fun suggestion. Try drawing the stripes in first, then the rest of the hair.
Mason Cruz
Also wondering if you digital people have tips for finishing up/inking. Even obvious stuff, since I'm pretty new to this.
Austin Hughes
How long are your chapters? I think the professionals doing standard 22-page chapters usually thumbnail out either the whole thing or half of it.
Zachary Rodriguez
Long, quick, confident strokes. Better to ctrl-z 5 times than to draw a line that technically goes where it should, but haltedly.
Dominic Mitchell
What fascinates me about Coldfusion is that he's like Henry Darger or Mark Hogancamp or R. Crumb. He's a creative guy with clear sexual dysfunction and little understanding of the separation between public and private.
I don't think he's a bad guy. He's just disturbed.
Ethan Evans
I'm planning for them to be about 20 pages, possibly more or less. Trying to do thumbnails for a whole chapter really fucking drains you, for some reason.
Definitely true, thank you.
Isaac Adams
...CF, are you actually trying to brag about never having sex?
Cameron Nelson
>Try drawing the stripes in first, then the rest of the hair Bruh, what are you even trying to say right now
Thomas Harris
>Is it better to have the entire chapter or whatever thumbnailed out before you start on pages?
I"m just a writer, but my artists tell me yeah. That's how Valley Forge does it.
>How do you keep from burning out on doing one thing?
Set goals. Like the goal I have right now for the Capeworld website is to finish off all those unfinished text stories I have running on the site so I can drop the "unfinished" label from the site entirely and just host competed and ongoing works. The Power of Stardust comic is going to be patreoned/kickstartered. The more money it makes the more scripts I write and the more art Valley Forge draws. The big goal is to get it published as a graphic novel.
>How do you build a world?
That depends on what kind of world and theme and feel you're shooting for. Tell me about your world user, maybe I can help get your thoughts in order?
>I don't know where to begin
Have you read William Gibson? Neuromancer is like the Lord of the Rings for Cyberpunk. You need to read that and Burning Chrome and his nonfiction book Distrust that Particular Flavor before you start doing anything Cyberpunk.
Hudson Lopez
you're talking to coldfusion, buddy. you shouldn't expect him to make sense
Evan Campbell
Well when you're sexually attracted to children never having sex is something to kind of be proud about...
Jaxson Butler
So, I have a problem. This will take a bit, so bare with me:
The essential premise of my webcomic is that there’s a god who died to stabilize his universe, that was previously chaotic and separated into two different worlds, a light world and a dark world. This god started importing people from our universe to stabilize his own universe, and a 26 year old woman managed to convince the god to split into four demigods, each representing the four primordial forces (gravity, weak, strong, and electromagnetism) and effectively kill his conciousness.
The light and dark worlds are more or less stabilized, each sperted by a tether called The Stem, but the universe still isn’t fully stable due to sentient creatures appearing, which cause rifts that threaten to grow and swallow the whole world. (Cont in next post)
Jason Smith
Just because I don't respect that separation doesn't mean I don't understand it. Until recently nobody in any of the places I hang out online gave two fucks about it either. By all means pretend that's not true of Sup Forums though. Comparing me to R. Crumb is a fucking honor though.
Benjamin Edwards
A lot of starving people are proud they never killed and ate anyone's pets. try drawing hair as individual locks, not just an outline and then filling in the delineations of the colors.
Alexander Roberts
If it takes you two whole posts just to explain your premise, consider figuring out a logline or elevator pitch for your comic. The premise should be the bare bones idea of your story, if you need to explain that much info to convince your audience the story is interesting you'll probably lose them pretty quickly. Try to write a summary a few sentences, two of less. What is your story about and why is it interesting?
Jaxon Myers
Oh, weird how you just happen to show up now.
Kevin Russell
I'm always around, user. Always watching you. HO ho ho!
Landon Gutierrez
Hey CF!
Could you do us all a favor and leave your tripcode on? I wanna know which posts are yours so I can read them all. Thanks!
Love, user
Blake Ramirez
(Cont) so basically, the denizens of this world are forced to continue to import physics from our world in the form of individuals who are sensitive to other realities. One of them is the sister of the girl who convinced the original god to kill himself.
So here’s where i’m at; I have two chapters written so far. The first is the sister being summoned to the Ednisphere ( the name of the dead god’s world) and accepting a job to track down two people for a shadowy government type. The other two chapters are introductions to the people she’s seeking.
The first, thanks to these threads, I’ve got down pretty well. The second, i’m Having trouble with.
Bentley Reed
Which is why I don't post art in here any longer, creep.
Adam Thompson
Sounds like you are writing a great JRPG here. So if I've sorted through this properly, you need our help with chapters about introductions? Whole chapters dedicated to introducing the people she's seeking as part of her shadowy gubmint job?
Landon Hall
And yet you stick around to shitpost. Keep up the good work.
Ayden Cook
The fuck?
Nathan Fisher
A god dies to stabilize an alternate universe. He fails, and his children are forced to try to mend things. Is that better? Now here’s where I’m stuck. The first three chapters are the sister tracking down two people. Thanks to these threads, I have the first character more or less taken care of, but the second needs work.
She’s the daughter of a noble in a province where nobles are still a thing. Her father owns a mcguffin, which she has to be enticed into stealing by someone from The Stem. When she steals it, she’s caught up to by her family and guards, and when she’s caught, the guy from The Stem kills everyone except her and one witness forcing her to run.
So I’ve been struggling with WHY she’s enticed to steal. The first reason, that she’s an indentured servant seeking freedom, was called “cringed” when I posted the script, mainly because I had the son of the noble family she belonged to make moves on her. Reading back, I agree; it’s cringe.
So now, I’m thinking of having her belong to a noble family trying to sell her into an arranged marriage, and the character originally hitting on her is now trying to help her escape. Does that work better?
Grayson Gutierrez
See
John Garcia
That's easy: They tell her there's some kind of rumor that it's going to be stolen by such-and-such, so she should grab it and bring it somewhere safer.
Levi Thomas
Hmm, that could work. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking of that.
I have concept art I wish I could show you, but the motherboard on the computer it’s on is borked.
Oliver Wright
oof, sorry to hear that. don't give my computer any ideas It's okay I'm good at clichés. it's not a skill you really want.
James Cox
I have a few tricks up my sleeve for getting stuff off of there, so i’ll probably post it in a week or so.
For what it’s worth, I didn’t think your idea was that cliche, so maybe you’re selling yourself a bit short.
Dominic Nelson
I mean, I can't think of specific examples, but it sounds so familiar. It didn't feel like my idea, it felt like a memory. But hey sometimes a bad memory is a good original idea!
Jayden Davis
For the anons wondering if it was bones, no it's not. It's supposed to be Peter Sotos.
Pardon my ignorance but who were you guys referring to?
Jack Howard
Cheers, dude.
Nathaniel Bailey
NO WIPS ON THIS TRIP im drunk as SHIT i got a new piece up and coming if you even wanna see it
Bentley Lopez
I do. You're the kind of nutjob we actually want around.
Jaxon Thompson
Also! I’m thinking of maybe starting the story with the sister who convinces the god to kill himself because I’m having trouble integrating all of this backstory into the script.
Thoughts?
Parker Price
>he defends this by saying he knows a girl online that's underdeveloped (or someone claiming to be a girl that's underdeveloped) and so that makes it okay. >I'm not a pedo, some of my best friends are little girls!
Colton Martinez
That part works best as a meaningful flashback, it deserves its spot
Liam Rivera
When the fire comes down from heaven this whole sinful world will melt away
Report from a local newspaper from when that happened.
Use google translate since article is in spanish
Benjamin Nguyen
Trannies don't care about no temperature
William Campbell
>midget porn is the same thing as child porn
Wow, some special snowflake really got triggered.
Jackson Moore
Pls, trannies whine about everything.
Easton Phillips
>Trannies are you just memeing or do we have multiple trannies?
Wyatt Green
People think I'm a tranny since I abreviate my name to Lucy
Grayson Morris
The irony is that the defense in question ("hey don't short-shame, some girls really are like that and it hurts their feelings") is pretty damn triggeresque as well, but it's dismissed. This is a dude who was always obviously a dude but uses a name that a girl might use, and sometimes avatarfags as a girl cartoon.
Lincoln Adams
>uses a name that a girl might use, and sometimes avatarfags as a girl cartoon. stage 1 tranny
Isaac Price
Now son, if you keep saying that, they're going to throw up their hands and go "Guess I'm a tranny then" and stop trying to fight the swishifyin' effect the MTV has on kids these days.
Kevin Diaz
>not being retarded is just as bad as being retarded
Well no, I can understand why you'd think that.
Jackson Miller
>Taking advantage of thirst fags and having the easy access in social media just because you give people the doubt by calling yourself a woman.
I've done theis too and it works like a charm, it's like choosing easy mode online. To make it better, you don't even have to give evidence, the mere doubt will make guys thirst you.
Justin Edwards
But he acts so macho that Stevie Wonder could smell his burrito moustache from across the internet. Nobody in here didn't know his name was Lucien or something right away.
Joshua Richardson
Who the fuck "short-shames" women. I'm pretty sure it's just something CF made up just to defend his pedo tendencies. >"B-but she isn't a child, she's just a short flat chested woman who looks exactly like a child! I know women who look 12 in real life!" Real short petite women don't even look like kids, and if you think that they do you probably watch too much anime. Legal lolis aren't real.
Lincoln Long
>Who the fuck "short-shames" women This isn't even a thing, making someone feel small makes them feel submissive, feminine, weaker (there is not a single woman that enjoys being stronger than their man). Women can't be shortshamed, just like men can't be tallshamed.
Tyler Smith
>"Nothing exists except what I say exists!" We are talking about fiction here, aren't we?
Eli Hill
Sounds more like pedo panic than shortshaming women, user.
Brody Morris
No Coldfusion. Short women do not look like children unless they have some sort of super-rare hormone problem where puberty doesn't trigger right for them, and this problem is usually easily corrected by hormone supplements.
Who the fuck short-shames women anyway? Women are naturally shorter than men. It's men that are short shamed.
I'm not sure Coldfusion even understands that short women don't look like children. If all he knows is anime he might simply have a skewed version of reality in his head.
Either way, the fact that he's making up stuff like "short shaming women" is showing that every day he grows more and more like CWC. He's creating his own vocabulary.
Eli Clark
>coldfusion's comic >fiction No, we're talking about trash
