I really wish they hadn't gone the cartoon villain route with Dooku.
He'd have been a better character if he was a decent man who genuinely wanted to fix the corruption in the Republic and was being strung along but Sheev.
Henry Torres
>mfw were never getting another villain with pajamas as based as his
Oliver Bell
Oops wrong image
Charles Hall
I kinda like his portrayal in Legends, especially his backstory.
Jordan Jenkins
Two more husbandos fall.
Isaac Turner
>He'd have been a better character if he was a decent man who genuinely wanted to fix the corruption in the Republic and was being strung along but Sheev. He seemed to have started that way, but the dark side is a hell of a drug. Dooku probably still tells himself that he's doing the right thing, just like Vader tells himself that his actions are justified because he's bringing peace and order to the galaxy.
Aaron Phillips
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Michael Robinson
>Heh..Nothing personal kid..
Kayden Garcia
user he did everything cause of qui gon
javascript:quote('97968763'); Yes user yes
Michael Collins
Round 12!
>The Trade Federation face the might of the Jedi when OOM-9 takes on Qui-Gon Jinn! strawpoll.me/14790971
>Then, it's a baddies brawl as Sheev Palpatine faces Jango Fett! strawpoll.me/14790972
Jason Myers
>He seemed to have started that way, but the dark side is a hell of a drug. Dooku probably still tells himself that he's doing the right thing, just like Vader tells himself that his actions are justified because he's bringing peace and order to the galaxy. Yeah, I think that's still the root of Dooku's fall and desire for power. He was frustrated with the galaxy and wanted the power to change it, but the Sith way being what it is, he eventually went from "I will gain the power to fix the galaxy" to "only I can save the galaxy from itself and only I deserve to rule it." He's always been described as a very "ends justify the means" character.
I do wish TCW treated him with a little more nuance, though.
Ayden Smith
Who are the people after this? I'm a bit worried I'll miss the next thread while I'm asleep.
Brody Cox
Vader versus Piett and Obi-Wan versus Raddus.
Jose Perry
How many times are they going to reference the connection between the name SOLO and the fact that he FLIES SOLO in the new movie titled SOLO?
Cooper Hughes
Ah, okay.
William Brown
>Vader vs Piett
It's not fair!
Parker Wright
>"LEAVE ME ALONE WOOKIEE, I FLY SOLO." >Turns and looks dead into the camera.
Too many times.
Blake Anderson
>FLIES SOLO but he doesnt fly solo. in fact, his ship is literally built to be flown with a co-pilot
Luke White
Vader is also mixed with a great deal of self-loathing though which sort of tempers him. He hates Palpatine, he hates himself and what he's become, but he's resigned to his fate until he meets his son.
How i feel desu. There are just times when Dooku seems almost overly sinister to the point it's just silly. Similar to how Grievous is almost overly incompetent and cowardly.
Just some nuance to their characters would've been nice. Especially because Lee portrayed Dooku as a particularly classy villain.
Robert Brooks
Unless you're Rey that is.
Xavier Morgan
>"I'm just trying to help you!" >"Yeah well I don't need your help kid." >"Now I know why you go by DISNEY'S SOLO™: A STAR WARS STORY, because you only work alone and don't let anyone get close to you." >... >"I'm not alone, I've got Chewie!" >chewie roars >Han makes Jim Face at the camera >audiences piss themselves laughing
Levi Flores
Based Chewie
John Morgan
BB-8 was her copilot.
Zachary Ramirez
She fucking complains on Jakku about it being hard to pilot solo user. It's hard to do, not impossible.
Zachary Stewart
Why'd he get the role again? I think the fan favorite Harrisod Ford impersonator was the better fit to play Han.
Cooper Walker
IMO if Obi-Wan filled Qui-Gon's role in TPM and was the one who went to Tatooine instead of staying on the ship, and Qui-Gon survived and filled Dooku's role in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, it would've solved a lot of problems people have with the prequels and generally would've made the overall story a lot tighter and more emotional. Christopher Lee is still god-tier though.
Xavier Moore
because he's an actor rather than some guy in a youtube video. His impression may work for 5 minutes in a video or in a brief flashback in a random indie movie, but there is absolutely no way he could've carried an entire movie. I'd rather see someone play young Han Solo than someone do an impression of Harrison Ford, as good as that impression is.
Jack Stewart
Nah, fuck off. Star Wars is a kids' show. >muh nuances muh greyness muh dilemmas You're everything that's wrong in this world. Centrists, abstainers, fence sitters, neutral observers, and indecisive cucks should all be killed.
Brandon Reyes
REBEL'S cum!
James Edwards
Because the impersonator is a shitty actor.
Brayden Nelson
>Obi-Wan filled Qui-Gon's role in TPM and was the one who went to Tatooine But that goes completely against the film and the prequels in general. Obi-Wan had no experience and had a major helping hand in Anakin's turn.
Nathaniel Long
>Han over Hondo How could a confirmed dead beat farther get more votes than a probable dead beat farther?
At least Hondo has class!
Jaxon Howard
That sounds like it couldve been interesting and it does solve the one greatest failing of the prequels (especially the first two movies) of not know who the fuck the main character should be.
It should've been Obi-Wan as the observer to Anakin's fall into Vader just as Luke was the redeemer of Anakin from Vader in the OT.
Blake Russell
>why didn't an impersonator get the role? The same reason Jay Farrow sucked on SNL. Impersonations don't get you very far.
Kevin Green
>Vader is also mixed with a great deal of self-loathing That was only in Legends. Vader in canon is powered by pure hatred. Him killing Padme and himself in the comic shows this
Gabriel Barnes
>suggest something the prequels could've done differently >"but that's not what happened"
yes I'm aware of that
Gavin King
Fuck nigga it's almost like he suggested a way to change the Prequels
Gabriel Johnson
It makes zero sense. Its like suggesting the Clone War should've been in TPM instead of AOTC
Tyler Russell
>of not know who the fuck the main character should be. Really? Fuck off with this shit forever.
HOURLY REMINDER THAT THIS CLASSIC FILM THAT STAR WARS IS BASED ON'S STARRING CHARACTER FAILS THE PLINKETT TEST. (Mifune).
James Sanders
It's still there, though. That's the entire point. He hates himself and the best way for him to deal with this is to regard Anakin as another person. Anakin was weak, Anakin failed, Anakin was the one who lost Padme. His willingness to constantly compartmentalize that and treat his past self as an entirely different person whose weaknesses he believes he no longer carries is very much a sign of self-loathing.
He'll never admit it openly like he did in Legends, though.
William Gomez
well, no movie is perfect they should fix that in the special edition
Brandon Davis
No you fuck off. The prequels lack of focus makes the whole thing suffer.
Thomas Butler
>The prequels lack of focus makes the whole thing suffer. Why are you lying?
Caleb Bailey
>No you fuck off. But my post is objectively correct. The Plinkett character test is completely arbitrary.
Ayden Lopez
>STARRING CHARACTER FAILS THE PLINKETT TEST. >Taking the hack frauds seriously >not just enjoying them for the fun they provide
Alexander Lewis
I just watched this and I spent the entire episode repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.
I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my seat for the last 10 minutes it was so painful.
Owen Miller
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Justin Allen
I think they think they're real movie critics now, because everyone treats them that way.
Landon Morris
Holy shit you're the autist of autists, you've probably never been on reddit yet some how you're still the biggest redditor on Sup Forums
It's fucking amazing.
Kudos, king of spergs.
Ryan Sullivan
well they are movie critics, but just because they are doesn't mean they're good
Dominic Diaz
>I spent the entire episode repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath. >I was writhing around on the floor in front of my seat for the last 10 minutes This is some next level plebbit tism
James Morgan
Sort of.
Some of the events from AOTC should've been episode 1. This would be followed by a Clone Wars piece, where you see Anakin growing stronger, becoming more resentful of the council, and getting promoted from padawan to knight. After that you get ROTS as it is, with the end of the war and the fall of the Jedi all in one place.
All of this doesn't exactly mirror the OT's narrative structure, but it builds up Anakin's character so that his arc (his downfall and transformation) has even more impact when the shit hits the fan in ROTS. Which is, you know, the whole point of the prequels.
Ryder Sanchez
I'm not. I know the contrarion opinion now is to pretend the PT is perfect and if you don't like it you just don't understand but seriously it has its flaws.
I don't know the plinkett test so either explain or say something else.
As per what i pointed out, not having a single main character to focus the story on can work but it's not an easy thing to pull off and if you don't, your movie comes off as a poorly edited mess. Which is the major failing of TPM and AOTC.
>b-b but it's not Even Lucas admitted it was.
Xavier Sullivan
I know this is false flagging bait, but I really really want it to be real.
William Hernandez
Hue
Christian Roberts
>Sort of. >Some of the events from AOTC should've been episode 1. This is why I hate people like you. Your tone. There's such a casual "of COURSE I know how to give the people a better Star Wars prequel than what we got" thing going on. Like you have a book with objectively correct answers somewhere.
Grayson Ward
>Centrists, abstainers, fence sitters, neutral observers, and indecisive cucks should all be killed.
Of course, because fuck logicality and understanding, only extremes exist. Fuckin retard.
James Perez
>Even Lucas admitted it was. source pls
Luke Morris
>I don't know the plinkett test so either explain or say something else. its a test for chaarcter depth explain a character to a third party without bringing up >class/job >equipment >plot relevance >skills >appearance
this is not a "you fail so your character isnt deep/entertaining" but its a simple heuristic to weed out characters who are flat and 2-dimensional and characterized more by what they hit people with than personality
>I know the contrarion opinion now is to pretend the PT is perfect No one said this but saying everyone is a retard for not agreeing with you is asking for a flame war. you know exactly what you're doing.
>seriously it has its flaws. All movies do. Especially Star Wars. There's a reason it's not looked at by respected critics and filmmakers as art. It's not Citizen Kane its a 12 year old space opera meant to pay homage to the most cheesiest pulp sci-fi.
Kayden Robinson
Have I got just the thing for you.
Eli Richardson
Holy shit it gets better.
Sebastian Stewart
But i didn't call anyone a retard. I was told to fuck off and responded in kind, while explaining my opinion. Then told i was lying.
Alexander Phillips
That prove your assertion though.
Nathaniel Brown
>not having a single main character to focus the story on Star Wars never had a true central protagonist.
>Which is the major failing of TPM and AOTC. This is your subjective interpretation. Not actual fact though.
Juan Fisher
>>class/job How is this an integral part of many characters though? Like, you can't give an accurate picture of Gandalf without talking about magic. You could describe his personality, but that's only a part of what makes Gandalf Gandalf.
Camden Stewart
Not that user but, I've been watching some of that lately, not in order, just watching some story arcs here and there, and I can say that its alright, but I have a problem with the pacing, it just nevers slows down for me
Lucas Fisher
This was quite literally the raw and unedited version of TPM, user. We already know from Lucasfilm the original TPM was much longer.
Josiah Anderson
>How is this an *how is this NOT an
Levi Perry
It's a stupid test that doesn't work as a measure of anything but is treated by RLM followers as concrete proof that a character is bad. A lot of great characters would have a hard time passing the test.
Eli Moore
I was EXTREMELY lukewarm on TCW for years. It's really an acquired taste. Couldn't tell you why that is though.
stop making sense
Jonathan Jones
>You could describe his personality, but that's only a part of what makes Gandalf Gandalf. because a large number of characters are defined solely by their position in the party, especially in RPGs which is what the plinkett test was designed for so if in star wars RPG, you make a jedi, and you dont really have a personality for him beyond "jedi", then you dont have a character, you have an RTS unit
Jeremiah Smith
I guess that came across as very pretentious, but that's just my very own and completely subjective dream prequel trilogy. I'm just going by what I would've liked it to be.
It's not how it is, and I acknowledge that, but a nan can dream.
Jaxson Lewis
Goodnight guys, I hope you dream of your waifu/husbando, whether she has a dick or not
Thomas Butler
>especially in RPGs which is what the plinkett test was designed for uh
Luis Brown
>Star Wars never had a true central protagonist. What in the wide wide world of sports did he mean by this?
James Sanders
i fucking hate Sup Forums refugees
Cameron Wood
Why did TFU have 7 different versions god damn.
Kayden Harris
I never understood his character test. I saw it once and got it.
Qui-Gon is the rogue cop who follows his gut but it gets him into all sorts of trouble. Obi-Wan is a wet behind the ears by-the-book cop. His failing with Anakin shows why he turned out the way he did in ANH. Padme is strong, brave and is generally a good queen but lacking experience. Anakin was a good natured kid who was a dreamer just like his father.
Gavin Garcia
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William Johnson
Lucas literally said she was a central protagonist as well. Han Solo turned into one because they werent sure he would be back for another film.
Hudson Carter
I would've loved to see this with Mark.
Luke Hernandez
>someone thinks this is actually funny and hilarious very cool
Adam Barnes
I don't really care what Lucas says, Luke is the central protagonist, and anyone who argues this is retarded.
Daniel Robinson
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Noah Sanders
>Lucas agrees with me, SEE? IT'S FACT! >Lucas doesn't agree with me, well who gives a shit what he says
Jose Harris
>Luke is the central protagonist whether naive farmboy, whiny teen, noble jedi, or cranky unvle luke will always be the legend who saved the galaxy
Jaxson Wright
We see Leia 17 minutes before we ever see Luke. Isn't that part of Plinkett's memeage as to why Anakin can't be the protagonist? Luke's 17 to Anakin's 30.
Elijah Fisher
this
Camden James
theres no single protagonist of ALL the movies. luke is only the protagonist for 3 of them
Isaiah Cook
I don't even know how the brady bunch theme goes protip: nobody does but this things reads like a pain.
Blake Miller
>Luke >Person who is only in 3 movies >Not the person who is in six movies, has his legacy be the theme of the sequels, was in 7 seasons of TV shows and has multiple comic lines dedicated to him
Elijah Bailey
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Brayden Scott
What does her poop taste and smell like? Do Togrutans get hemorrhoids?
