Best Thunderbolts team?

Best Thunderbolts team?

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>Cloack

It had one hell of a lineup, it practically is an anti-hero fan's wet dream, you got:

Punisher
Red Hulk
Agent Venom
Elektra
FUCKING Dead pool
and the leader i guess

You're trying too hard. It was just Code Red. It wasn't Thunderbolts.

OG Bolts > Hawkeye Bolts > Ellisbolts > Cagebolts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the hell that group with Paladin was called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redbolts

Other than OG Bolts = Hawkeye Bolts I think you right

That would be siegebolts

and this

All are still better than the post Civil War II incarnation.

You forgot zugbo- maybe it's a good thing you forgot

What were they thinking with that 90s thing and the cosmic loli? Does Marvel hate the bolts that much?

I fuck with Punisher/Elektra and co team.

Thunderbolts when they worked for Norman Osborn during Dark Reign was my favorite story though.

We never got a Thunderbolts Blue Team made up of Dark Beast, Blizzard, Hydroman, Avalanche, Vance Astro and Venom (Eddie). What’s the point of making a Red Team if they don’t have a blue team for them to fight against.

Ross' Thunderbolts were okay until the book became blatant and unapologetic Frankwank.

>yfw their leader is Superior Tony
Dates don't allign but it'd be CapeKINO.

>Splitlip's improvement of Stark's Uru armor
I thought all of the Uru weapons from Fear Itself got melted down
And that doesn't look like the armor from Fear Itself

I wish you were writing instead of Zug

I liked Parkerbolts a lot, even if the time travel arc felt like it came out of nowhere.

I also hate the fact that Ross said that he created the Thinderbolt’s program, which is why it’s named Thinderbolts. Fuck that book man, seriously fuck that shitty book. The ONLY good issues were the Infinity tie ins and the annual, everything else was fucking shit

This, i stopped reading at the arthurian part

the daredevil ninja tie in was horrible

but i still like the way parker writes his characters

>Thunderbolts when they worked for Norman Osborn during Dark Reign was my favorite story though.
True, the best part was that they were undermining Osborn all the time. They were a black ops failure, and because of that they were a success.
Ghost was best.

Maybe sometime soon, I keep sending letters into Marvel talking about how I’d have fixed things or done things differently while praising the books that I enjoy. I figure if fucking Slott could get hired off of being a fan who wrote letters, than maybe I can too.

Please do, I hope you save the bolts

What happens to Radioactive man at the end? I liked him and Songbird being best friends

There are a lot of things that I want to save and fix, not just the Bolts, but that team is pretty fucking high up on my list

I liked the book after Way left and Soule took over.
Then after he left and those other guys took over, it became the Frank show and was just so fucking awful.

Should be pretty easy to get hired nowadays, since they hired people who "write" gawker articles

Did Suicide Squad ever suffer something as low as Ben Acker/Ben Blacker/Way bolts?

T-Bolts will get butchered when they get a movie. Best part of the books was the seeing all these B and C listers doing heroics.

yeah everything between Ostrander's run and the Rebirth run

Yeah, but my skin is white despite being 50% Native American, they might deny me on that alone. Of course I could always pull the race card and get myself hired to prevent a minor PR problem.

Same thing that happened to most of the semi-reformed villains. Future writers ignored their time in the t-bolts and just kept them as villains. Juggs, Ghost, Speed Demon, Shocker, Blizzard, etc.

Reset to villainy by Loeb. He last appeared Waid's ANAD Avengers so that Kamala could punch and be shocked that the guy called Radioactive Man is in fact radioactive.

I want to point out that Spencer actually made a point of referencing Shocker’s time with the TBolts. When Boomerang sent Cage and Iron Fist after them, Luke rips the TBolt badge off Shocker’s costume saying that he doesn’t deserve this any more

>that 90s thing
maybe they thought people were nostalgic for 90s comics for some reason

Splitlip made a new one off Stark's FI design, maybe

When Avengers Undercover came out I was really hoping that it would be shown that Dr Chen had been working with Hazmat to help her control her powers, maybe something cheesy like through Meditation or Tai Chi. Instead she just shows up without her suit and no explanation given...

just show them your rez card nigga or go take diversity pics with an uncle

damnn which issue is that? that triggered my feels

I want to know who picked the artist for that book, Zub or the editor. I am leaning towards the editor because her books tend to come with strange artist and colorist picks.

No, like, I’m so white, the reservation had, well, reservations about the authenticity of my blood line, and I can blame them really, standing beside my aunts is like night and day, you’d think I was adopted.

> ftw Radioactive Man would have been a perfect fit for Ewing's AIMvengers

Fuck man, I can’t remember, the only choice you have is to sit down and enjoy that whole run again until you find it. Also, Box Cat, it was fucking everywhere.

It's sad when the fill in artist is better than the main.

This. Goddamnit that would have been perfect. Last thing I remember seeing him in was Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, he stopped Thor’s hammer when it was thrown at him by using radiation to sap the hammer’s inertia.

The art doomed the book from the start, even if the writing had been godtier instead of the garbage we got. And now the OG Bolts are in the editorial doghouse because it failed.

It wouldn't have been hard to justify either, what with Songbird on the team. They need someone with experience with nuclear physics and radiation, Melissa recommends Chen, done.

Was that Superior Foes? That made a good amount of t-bolts references.

That was Superior Foes, yes, which is the best Tbolts we'll have had on years.

Parkerbolts is unironically the best

Yeah that was Superior Foes, oddly the only two on that team who were Thunderbolts were Beetle and Overdrive.
And it’s not like Robert could be like “but he’s a bad guy” it’s fucking AIM. Guy, we really need to start writing comics professionally, I don’t even care about making money, I just want to make good comics.

Any line-up with Songbird.

Just so long as she doesn’t look like that, personally I want to move her away from the Thunderbolts and keep her Avengers status intact, she’s worked hard to be more than just a rehab villain

That ship sailed with Zubbolts, she's one of them again.

Songbird should lead the Avengers and Juggernaut should run a school for mutants

>stopped reading TBolts around the CW2 tie ins
>find this out just now
I am so fucking mad right now I’m expecting a red cosmic ring to shatter through my window any second now....
Could you honestly see Jugs as the headmaster of a school? I fucking love this idea

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This! but there was also a team between Hawkeye's T-Bolts and Osborn's T-bolts with Songbird as leader and Genis-Vell as member.

Also, don't forget his Thunderbolts, what was Marvel thinking?

>Marvel Comics for Real Men
how times have changed

It was shit because of red hulk, venom, Deadpool. And maybe leader.
Remender Deadpool would work.
Actually, this was a failed remender x-force.

Boomerang and Shocker were Thunderbolts under Boss Cage.

but mostly it was shit because of Punisher

he technically owns the property already and being Charles' brother and all it'd be the best character growth like ever
trying to steer some kids out of trouble, use his power to protect them

Cain owns the X-Mansion? Or the property in Winchester where the X-Mansion previously resided?

Xavier hasn't owned the property in a while now. Frost bought it at some point when he went on some sabbatical, and when he came back Scott told him to get the hell out. It's changed owners multiple times since then.

thinking into creating a thunderbolts porn comic

Jeff Parker's run is my favorite. I liked Ellis' Osborn, though.

>songbird is evil again because reasons
I have a theory Marvel has someone high up in the chain of command who's sole job is to fuck with fans.

>there was also a team between Hawkeye's T-Bolts and Osborn's T-bolts with Songbird as leader and Genis-Vell as member

I really like NewBolts. Mach # failing as leader, Zemo going maximum keikaku, Squadron Sinister reunion... all kinds of fun.

osborn or cage. i like when the team is composed of random villains.

The most evil things Songbird did in the last volume of Thunderbolts were breaking into a SHIELD prison and decking Captain America, the first one doesn't matter because people do it all the time and Cap was Secret Hitler at the time.

I fucking love OG Bolts and the Hawkbolts. Hell, I love every 'Bolts team until whatever the fuck that shit was that Steve "Frank" Dillon was drawing. But I will be eternally pissed that Karla got knocked into a fucking coma for two years and that Melissa essentially took all of her character development and became the leader. Then once Karla gets back she's treated like a fucking footnote for the rest of the god damn series because Songbird unofficially became the "icon" of the Thunderbolts. She got her little stint as Ms. Marvel during Dark Reign and didn't really do much there but contribute to undermining Osborn, fucking Genus and trying to grasp leadership but failing in the end. Once she hits the Raft and then gets conscripted into the Cagebolts she stops being relevant and is delegated to just fodder. She stays fun but she's in the god damn background and, fuck, the character can be so much more. So much god damn more.

I both love and hate Songbird. Love her because Melissa stepping up to the plate and following the examples set by Hawkeye [and actually leading her team to fucking beat the Avengers in a teamfight at one point] was like Christmas. Beetle/Mach was becoming a better person and supporting her, Techno/Fixer was dope, Atlas was just kind of there but still. It's just that Karla had to get slapped down for all of that to happen. I would have loved if she had fully reformed into a hero and "saw the light" because I feel with her level of cunning and manipulation that she would've made an effective leader. But I guess her getting smacked down so many times proves that, no, she wouldn't, despite having the potential and being stronger than Songbird.

>I would have loved if she had fully reformed into a hero and "saw the light" because I feel with her level of cunning and manipulation that she would've made an effective leader.
Karla comes across as a psychopath, so she could never truly be a hero, just someone who doesn't actively do bad things and who only performs good deeds for others because it's in her best interest to do so. But there will always be that temptation to do any kind of wrong she can get away with.

the land I think
he was gonna sue and then it was never talked about again

>cosmic loli
Good idea, wrong team.
She needed to be with people in here weight class or at least close to it. Alpha isn't doing much these days.

>Alpha isn't doing much these days.
HE'S PROTECTING PITTSBURGH

I liked the various Nicieza teams. The one near the end with Amazon, Blackheath, Skein and the like was nice though it's a shame that Blackheath had all of his development undone after Avengers/Thunderbolts.

It's pretty much just going to be Ellisbolts where it'll be evil characters who don't give a shit about being heroes doing questionable things and then Songbird is there too. Marvel will only adapt things in the most normie friendly manner and Ellis is about as normie friendly as it gets.

Thunderbolts really only works as a serial where you get to see the development of characters and the wonder of who's going to reform for real, who won't and the heroes who have to keep them in line.

>Zemo going maximum keikaku

All those issues of buildup for the Grandmaster fight and Zemo just blows his load all over him. It was great.

Thunderbolts (including the pre-Fightbolts run, New, Avengers/Thunderbolts and Born Better) is the best thing Nicieza's ever written. Absolutely nobody writes Zemo better than him.

Bump

Don't bully Frank.
I was joking, the book was shit because of the writers (and the concept itself), yes they wanked the Punisher.
Admittedly Frank has no place on Thunderbolts, of all things. Obviously I would have preferred a small cast Frankbook to butchering Tbolts.
(Parkerbolts were great)
And ye I hate Rulk and dislike Venom and Deadpool.

honestly im suprised if marvel doesnt have a plan to have titania be a new thunderbolts leader

i dont understand, what happened?

>Thunderbolts (including the pre-Fightbolts run, New, Avengers/Thunderbolts and Born Better) is the best thing Nicieza's ever written. Absolutely nobody writes Zemo better than him.
thanks for the suggestion friend, it really is a great read

By the end of the series she is the only Thunderbolt standing actually, all the others are either "dead" or joined the Masters of Evil

Ghost and Jolt were standing as well. Or floating.

Team Spookybolts

suicide squad is better

Ghost wasn't part of the team, he just popped up with no explanation mid run.

What are the chances of a Thunderbolts movie?

Low that we know Phase 4 will be only about rehashing shit like GotG3 and Black Widow

Ferrig mini when?

Post fan teams.

>Stark's the guy backing it all/Director
>Hawkeye's the 2nd in Command
>Moonstone is there on Clint's request
>Songbird's there to keep an eye on the team due to her succesful rehabiliation/she's the PR gal
>Tasky is the Trainer
>Carnage & Bullseye are the Big & Hidden Guns
>the rest of them change depending on the story/Raftbolts premise

How would you keep Carnage in check?

Locked up.Lobotimized symbiote. EXTREMIS, SON. Whatever.

Songbird's sound powers seem pretty well suited to that

>Parkers run was god tier
When is that not true about anything Parker writes? "Great run that nobody read" is practically his tagline.

me in the bottom panel

>tfw we never get Spencer writing a Thunderbolts comic.