British people: How is the NHS working out for you?

British people: How is the NHS working out for you?

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My nan was recently hospitalised. All I can say is despite the flaws of universal healthcare it's still miles better than the alternative.

Pretty well desu

My older brother's gf is a nurse and she says it's ready to collapse.

They're all looking for private jobs on the sly now.

I pay for it in my taxes, I never use it, I'm glad it's there for others.

They've been great with family members. Can't fault them.

Not being part of the great unwashed, I have never made use of it but that it's there for them is an overall benefit, despite its numerous flaws and immense cost.

Some of us appreciate guys like you.

I like it, but it would be great if they actually tried fucking funding it.

>NHS
>working

Works great as long as you don't actually need it.

Good, I hope Tory scum gtfo soon so we can restore it

It's fucked. I've been using it heavily, due to my condition, since 1995; until Blair came along and opened the floodgates for immigration everything was fine, then everything changed for the worse. Much longer waiting times, and less nursing staff on hand in the wards, those are the main changes I've noticed. The quality of said nursing staff has dipped a bit too.

I'm trying desperately now, to get myself in a financial position where I wont need to rely on the NHS in the future, as my condition is only worsening as I age. Either that or I might move to a country where the health service isn't as fucked, if I can find a wife there.

Useless.

Your GP just gives you a £8 prescription antibiotic for pretty much anything.

God forbid you ever need to see a specialist, you'll have to wait about 8-12 months. Doesn't stop them from hitting my pay-cheque every month though to keep some filthy boomers 20 times more expensive than me alive.

Fucking useless, considering I can easily pay for the top of the top specialists in Eastern Europe.

The emergency services are God-tier though, no comment there.

>despite the flaws of universal healthcare it's still miles better than the alternative.
Bullshit. Here in the 'States we have the best medicine on earth. Even if you are poor, you can get Medicaid or just go to the ER and not pay a dime (hospital just eats the loss). If you have decent insurance, or enough cash, we have shit like the Mayo Clinic. Every hospital in buttfuck USA has a MRI machine, by comparison with universal HC Canada's handful for the entire country.

So why did Walter White have to start making meth?

its better than not having it

Fine. I recently waited 9 days for a non-emergency appointment at the doctor, some blood work and a finger up my arse etc. My fees at the dentist are £19.70 for a check-up, plus that bit of scraping and polishing they do. I go twice a year.

The NHS works fine for healthy people.

He had stage 4 cancer didn't he?
You aren't getting cured in any country with stage 4 cancer unless you shell out a ton of money

There's a lot of talk about whether it's underfunded, which it is, but only relative to how much it is being used.
Addressing issues like high immigration or poor lifestyles in the general population would go a long way

Is it sustainable though?

this

Uh what were your symptoms, that sounds scary

I'll never understand why people are 'proud' to be completely reliant on the state for their wellbeing.

I'm glad it's there for emergencies but it's fucking useless otherwise.

My GFs uncle had non-hodgkins lymphoma and now he doesn't have non-hodgkins lymphoma so bretty gud.

I just used it the other night.
>Daughter's lips swelled up from an allergic reaction
>Called NHS 24, 111
>Straight through to a Nurse after some questions
>Told to go to my local A&E 25 minutes away
>It was 8pm at night
>Asked me if I wanted an ambulance? (free of course)
>No it's ok I'll drive
>Got there, Two nurses administered some tests, saw a Doctor within 15 minutes
>Given some drugs
>Shown to a waiting room
>Was told to wait an hour
>Doctor and the two nurses checked in every 20 minutes
>Eventually sent to nearest pediatrics's
>Seen by child specialist nurse and doctor
>More medicine
>more observation
>given an allergenic kit to take home
>One sent to her school as well
>Next day appointment with her GP
>asked if we wanted to do some testings

Everything above was free. price was never mentioned.
How much would this have cost for you burgers?

It's a disgrace outside of London

In the town I live in (36,000 people), there's a Hospital with Emergency response, but no A&E. If you have a heart attack, a stroke, etc, the Ambulance has to drive 30 miles to get to the nearest hospital.

Oh, and the Junior doctors strike non-fucking-stop. Public Healthcare is not all it's hyped up to be.

Administration is terrible, as are most of the hospitals but the actual doctors and nurses are good

A grand or more.

It's shit. The only ones who defend the NHS are the ones who've never had to visit hospitals in other civilised countries.

That's crazy. You guys should get some universal health care.

Nah fuck it, buy a couple more of these.

It's run like shit, wasteful socialists just kept pouring money into it for decades regardless of how it was being used. No ones ever punished for fucking up, they're never incentivised to provide the best service at the lowest cost, they waste energy, time, and resources constantly. It was already a shambles and now Toris are letting it fall apart as an excuse to privatise it.

I wish there was a middle ground where they'd run the fucker like a business, holding staff accountable and trying to save money, but without it devolving into profit chasing and fucking the people they're supposed to help.

Rather well, thanks.

It appears I've possibly ruptured or badly torn the ACL in my right knee. I saw my GP about 2 weeks ago and I've got an MRI scheduled for this Thursday. After the results come back (approx 1 week after), it's highly likely that I'll require surgery, for which I'll be referred to an orthopedic specialist.

My GP suggested that surgery will be quicker at a Hospital which is slightly further away than my most local one, but this won't be a problem for me. And that's the option I'll be taking.

All in all, he feels it's quite likely that my surgery will be complete by mid December. So, from original appointment, MRI, diagnosis and surgery, I'm looking at about 2 and a bit months, which is okay by me. I'm not in huge pain, but my mobility is completely fucked.

I would be in quite a pickle were it not for the NHS.

Clear Bernie fan pretending to be a Limey. Can't spell paediatric properly. Probably also a paedophile.

I'm lazy and let google chrome take care of my shit posting spelling.

But regardless if you think it's true, it is, what I wrote is how an allergic reaction response would go in the UK on the NHS

You've also shifted from allergenic (more common in the US) to allergic? Where are you based neighbor?

Hmm I wonder who could be behind this post..

(Spoiler: straight white male)

>neighbor
woops

Just checking if you would pick up on the whole neighbour/neighbor thing. Beginning to believe you... Name me one fact that about your town that you can't get off google? YGM senpai?

A bloated mess full of incompetent assholes. The nurses never seem to do anything but sit and talk. My grandmother caught an infection in the hospital and died from it. Despite being hooked up to a heart monitor, the nurses never moved from their station. My mother actually had to go over to them and tell them that her mother was dead before they got up off their fat asses and screened off the bed. I like the idea behind the NHS, but my God, it needs a serious shake-up.

It's shit. Don't listen to the 14 year olds who have never had experience it first hand.

Seeing a specialist takes 4-6 months, and that's if you can somehow convince your penny pinching GP to give you a referral. A&E is full of immigrants so people with genuine emergencies get shafted.

I've gone private now. Most private consultants work for the NHS as well, so if I ever need something not covered I just ask to go through the NHS and save my self the 6 month waiting time in between GPs and consultants.

Basically, GPs are almost all terrible. The consultants are good and actually give a shit, but getting to them is very difficult.

Poorly. Private providers bidding for national contracts would make much more sense.

>in any country which doesn't have universal healthcare
fixed that for you

Worked great for me so far, I've had a bunch of minor surgeries for free that really hit the spot

Only people I know who cant get the surgery they need is because they're too fat for it and get refused until they loose weight. Which I agree with

I think Hodgkin's lymphoma is the only cancer that can be cured at stage 4.

Stage 4 literally means "this is the end, sorry pal".

Long waiting times, underfunded, constant reports of stupendously high workloads on staff. Anyone who actually suggests anything different is basically demonised though. It's become a very ideological thing and people refuse to accept anything short of fully public healthcare free at the point of service, even when there's evidence that relatively minor reform that could improve the service. It's going to be unsustainable in the long run.

Consultants are overworked. GPs get 5 prayer breaks a day and still clock off at 5pm.

It's absolutely garbage. You can get private insurance for less than half you pay for state insurance via taxes.

>bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16744819
The average person pays £1,094 to the NHS, it's slightly higher now.
The average person can get full coverage from say, BUPA, for £400. Their BUPA coverage will also treat them on time.

It's funded plenty well enough, they just waste the money by being dumb and hiring incompetent managers.

>Only people I know who cant get the surgery they need is because they're too fat for it and get refused until they loose weight. Which I agree with
>force people to buy a service under threat of imprisonment
>refuse people access to that service

Yeah, what a great precedent to set.

It's a wonderful thing being abused by certain people. It takes two weeks to get a 10 minutes appointment now. It can't take this strain for much longer.

not so great since we let health tourism and a shit ton of mudslimes in

it's unfortunately unsustainable though. tfw NHS will fall in your lifetime

They are good if you have something that's obviously wrong with you. However if you have a brain tumour or something like that, you are fucked.

we hire too many fucking Philippino and African nurses who don't know what the fuck they're doing and create more workload for everyone else

already strained system being further strained by foreign workers

natives aren't being trained cause they aren't getting bursaries to train anymore

whole thing is fucked desu

NHS is a great system, personally think every country should have one
You're talking shit

It's better than ObamaCare, although opinions vary. I've always seen good white doctors, who care about your issues and put you through to the various experts in good time. Appointments are gained on the day you ask for them, even if you have to wait +30 minutes past the scheduled time.

Hospitals seem clean and professional too.

It's not sustainable, the workers are leaving in droves for better pay elsewhere - but this in turn is encouraging more (((white))) people to start looking into the medical career and taking the jobs, being content in their little environment.

It's a part of the TAX all non-welfarescum British people face, so insofar as costs go, we never notice it. Knowing its there whenever you need it and an ambulance will turn up within 15 minutes of calling it is always nice.

Lots of layers of service too.

Without massive reform it will be dead within 10 years.

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cityam.com/222482/only-way-truly-save-nhs-liberate-it-state-control

NHS is good at a lot of things but keeping people alive isn't one of them.

I work for a private healthcare company providing psychological therapy. Until recently, we had a the contract for referrals from GPs in practices in our area. You would be seen by a therapist within 2 weeks of referral. The local NHS service now have the contract and the wait is 12 weeks. In some areas of the country it's not unusual to wait 6 months which is appalling.

This is pretty accurate.
Oh, the ambulance service is fucked though.

The only massive reform that could keep it alive is removing it or cutting it to the bones. No current politician has the appetite for this and with the fixed terms act no government would be around long enough to see it done.
One of the many, many problems that come with the fixed terms act.

It was working until we went full retard with immigration. Now the collapse is inevitable. Healthcare will go private in the next 10/20 years. It's unsustainable.

I mean, why not both?
I love universal healthcare as much as the next guy but military is pretty awesome

Just got a quote for £325 for a year (2 months free). That's actually pretty cheap. I might consider it as I get older.

have you seen their teeht/jawlines?

it was really good

but every time conservatives get in power they make big cuts that hurt it

and immigration increased queue times silly amounts in some areas

Have you seen that crater where your shed used to be?

i think i made him mad, is he mad anons?

I went to my local hospital with stomach pain.

They gave me a 'suppository'.

For what good it did me , you might as well stick it up your arse.

>Gets ran over, breaking arm in several places and severe concussion
>NHS ambulance arrives 3 days later

on an unrelated note, was it ever discovered who the Serbia strong guy was?

>When you have no job or education so you vote labour communist party

kys nigger

This.

My nan needed a hip replacement in 2003, she was still on the waiting list when she died in 2010. They finally got round to a post-mortem hip replacement op last year.

Steven Seagal
he citizen now

You'll never get government subsidised Mars bars you filthy Scot. Mummy May is here to stay.

kek

When was the last time the tories made cuts to it? It's been ring fenced in every recent tory budget and manifesto.

It's doing ok with what resources it has but it is struggling. aging population, rise of long term conditions (old fucks, fat fucks), influx of refugees/health tourists and misappropriation of funds (like executives who fuck up and get a golden parachute and are reshuffled into another high paying management position) are slowly strangling the service.

Privatisation of parts of the service is a reality - not against myself that but I'd like to keep muh nhs pension.

>every time conservatives get in power they make big cuts that hurt it

fuck right off mate. Even the most lefty of nurses will tell you Blair did the most damage.

The NHS without a doubt has problems, but I don't think it's as bad as many americans make it out to be, if you have the money you can still get private health insurance anyway.
Normally if your issue isn't pressing or potentially threatening you just have to wait to get it sorted, if I want a GP appointment I can fairly easily get one within a day or 2. Recently I've seen a GP for throat issues, took them 4 months to refer me to a specialist, took them 5-6 previously for them to schedule a procedure to treat an ingrown toenail, took them 5-6 months for them to refer my dad to a specialist and for them to schedule knee surgery for him.

I am in full support of a National Health Service which is free at the point of service for emergency matters.

However, I have never used this service. Of all the tax I pay, approximately 18% of it goes to the NHS.

Yet, like most state-run ventures, it's horrifically mismanaged, unscrutinised and unsustainable at current pace. It's not fit to serve our entire population plus the additional health tourists who abuse it. Staff are leaving in droves to get better pay and less stressful conditions in other health services, and I don't blame them at all.

Of course feeding the beast until it stops complaining is the preferred solution, so it can continue being inefficient and remain on it's current course until the ageing population demands increase ever further and the shortage of staff to meet these demands falls too.

Much of it should be privatised, no one will do it though. Doing so is electoral suicide, so we just keep going.

33 Years old here, had health issues in the past. I went private for a few years and aside from it usually being fast it was SHIT.
I really like it, I've nearly always had the best of treatment and care. I'm proud of it too. It is sustainable, it just needs careful management.

The tories and globalists want to destroy it because there's money to be made and tax to be avoided, and little by little the private sector gets closer and closer to taking it all over.

>Every hospital has an MRI machine
I guess America must have a much higher incidence rate of brain damage than I first suspected.

The NHS will be privatised soon enough so it does not matter.

Fuck off m8, I'm in East Sussex and it's fine here.

Seagal is a fat useless fuck who needs euthanising

Quite good thanks. I tore my hand open and broke a bone recently, and my wife had gallstones removed, and we didn't have to sell our house and all of our belongings to pay for it.

The actual service is pretty good.

The consequences of socialized healthcare on our taxes and sovereign debt are terrifying.

This basically.

Long story short, it sucks humongous amounts of taxpayer money, wastes most of it, through sheer odds or the very rare actually competent GP causes notable cases to be treated for free, and said cases are then parroted all over the news hailing the success of free healthcare.

Here's some anecdotal evidence from news and personal experiences:
>Some random indian immigrant can get £10k per year for some vitamin supplements or whatever
>A friend of mine has problems with his back and he receives minimal help, while fighting tooth and nail for everything he does get - he probably costs like £50/year or less on treatments
>I remember reading about "heroic NHS" saving a child with meningitis by amputating half his limbs. That's not unusual here. Never mind the fact that if you don't want until sepsis, meningitis can be cured without permanent harm.

Scrap the fucking Jew-feminist-nigger NHS 2bh

It's always acted as a fifth column in the UK. Fucking kill it with fire.

>miles better than the alternative.
Better than the US, that is until Trump's reforms come into effect. What about France? They have it bretty good

So an immigrant? Stay in your country and fix it faggot

Too much useless management and paperwork on every ward in a hospital. But this is the fault of claims culture as much as anything.

Also there aren't enough British people training to be nurses and HCAs so they have to spend ridiculous money on bank staff of all nationalities who have absolutely zero reason to do anything resembling a good job

I work for the NHS (in Scotland no less) and it's staffed by people who by and large genuinely care about helping people and making sick people better.

However, financially the NHS is in unbelievably dire straights with basically no clear route out because of the attachment to the NHS in its current form by the electorate.

There is certainly a culture of political correctness and leftism within the organisation, which really does not help - the NHS itself is likely the reason why the UK has been cucked for so long, although this is a broad stroke and there are many based people working for the NHS.

Personally I think the NHS will ultimately succumb to the rapidly ageing and expanding population of the UK - it's not fit for purpose, and many of our facilities are so ass-backwards when you compare them to other first world countries because we don't have the money to build new ones.

Sorting out immigration would ease the burden in some areas, but the NHS will ultimately need people to either have insurance or make contributions to their healthcare within 20 years, if I'm allowed a prediction.

The NHS, like many things associated with the left, sounds very nice and noble on a campaign leaflet, but now in the real world it's buckling under the weight of what it has to deal with.

>Everything above was free

No you fucking dunce, you and your fellow citizens have been paying taxes. You paid much more than any of us would have for that.

Yet the US spends more per capita on health care than any other nation.
Really makes you think huh

Huh, must be that really poorly managed shithole Obongocare

Man, my neurons are really firing now

Its good but the UK has an aging population so there could be an NHS crisis if we don't balance it out with a massive influx of working age immigrants.

It was good until the cuckservatives started selling it off to Branson. Fucking wankers.

Holy fuck.I can't imagine being told that you can't see a doctor the same day. When I needed a CT scan (non-emergency), they gave me a form and I walked to the other side of the hospital, done. When I needed a bone spur handled on my foot, I had a pre-surgical exam the next day (Friday), and surgery on Monday. My mother had to schedule things a couple months in advance for reconstructive surgery after breast cancer, but that was because she wanted a specific surgeon.