The reality of why Superman is less popular than Batman and why very few normies like him is that he doesn't fit an archetype. Batman is the one man army who outsmarts and outskills everyone. Spider-Man is the young hero tasked with great conflicts. Harley Quinn is the ditzy fun loving girl. Wonder Woman has the whole greek/mythological warrior thing going on. Hell, if Martian Manhunter was pushed harder im sure even he would be more popular than Superman because he's the outcast with a good heart; people loved him in the JL cartoons.
But what is Superman? Just... the good strong guy? Very few people care about stories involving that sort of character. It's the reason why people resonate more strongly with Captain America than the recent Superman movies. Captain America is built on the same foundation of the man who has to do good, but on top of that he has the stature of a soldier. Superman is too 'simple' or singular of a concept for modern audiences.
Brody Adams
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Julian Lopez
>The character that created the Superhero archetype doesn't fit any archetype
Jace Martin
exactly, he is just way too simple of a character for modern audiences
He is as basic as you can get in terms of characters
Ayden Brooks
Here's the reality, people want to feel special and think picking 2nd biggest makes them special. Also he wears black and is sad sometimes, so its deep.
Bentley Brooks
>2nd biggest in terms of what?
Hudson Phillips
Superman has a lot of classic stories on his belt. Why Captain America doesn't have as many classics?
The Superman franchise can carry a lot of books simultaneously. Why the Captain America franchise can't do the same?
Jaxon Watson
Yeah and im sure everyone is dying for another adaptation of the Romeo and Juliet story
that's a classic right
Ryan Ward
What kind of answer is that?
Why the Captain America franchise can't carry as many books as the Superman franchise? Why Superman has more classic stories on his belt than Captain America?
Cameron Gomez
Superman just isn't cool. Batman and Spider-Man are cool because they take down enemies in style, have lots of girls around and fantastic foes. They are great as wish-fulfillment.
Superman spends half his own comics needing to get saved by his own supporting cast, is shackled to Lois who's most known portrayal is that of a snarky, plain bitch and his enemies suck ass except for maybe Brainiac. He sucks as wish-fulfillment.
Before Superfags come at me, this is what I assume the general audience thinks of Superman.
Caleb Russell
>Yeah and im sure everyone is dying for another adaptation of the Romeo and Juliet story Since Romeo and Juliet is still performed 400 years after it was first written, yes, they are.
That was a real bad comparison to make.
Austin Howard
I think he might be genuinely retarded.
OR a big fan or Super Best Friends Play, which would make him retarded anyway.
Benjamin Rogers
Why can't Superman carry a regular movie?
Jaxon Morgan
No one who defends Superman are willing to admit that Superman is less popular than Batman
Adam Peterson
He did multiple times. The first Superman directed by Donner movie has an important place in history and everything.
Why can't the Captain America franchise carry multiple books? Why doesn't Captain America have as many important stories as Superman? Why Captain America's most important writer is fucking Steve Englehart, while Superman was written by the likes of Moore?
Oliver Cook
>Cap's most important writer >Not Lee, Gru, or Bru
Chase Lee
>Why can't Superman carry a regular movie?
Aaron Stewart
>Comparing Gruenwald and Brubaker to Moore >Actually thinking that Lee's stories are good No wonder Cap lacks important stories.
Jordan Walker
>You
Elijah Smith
t. nonreader
Jacob Nguyen
>He sucks as wish-fulfillment. >Before Superfags come at me, this is what I assume the general audience thinks of Superman. Which is weird because wish-fulfillment is at the heart of what he is. The real problem is that he’s forced to play the heel to Batman who’s the plucky underdog somehow. Kek, you must be retarded. Batman was the main star of BvS and that shit still bombed. Donner Superman was and still is a beloved classic.
Michael Allen
>uncannymegan She shows her feet a lot in her cosplay, and they are TOP tier.
Ayden Powell
>But what is Superman? Just... the good strong guy? Pulp sci fi action hero.
Landon Cruz
Inflation-adjusted the first Superman movie made $1.2 billion.
Luis James
>people still not addressing that Superman is less popular than Batman sad!
Ryder Rodriguez
It's time to 'shift' the Superman paradigm, per se. Deconstruct & reconstruct him for a New Modern Audience.
Matthew Jenkins
We all know that he is less popular than Batman. So is every other comic book character.
Parker Robinson
>still not addressing that Superman is less popular than Iron Man sad!
Juan Russell
I see more people at the Gym wearing a shirt that looks like Captain America Winter Soldier's uniform than I do the Superman logo anymore
Aaron Allen
What if perhaps, we made Superman a jerk? That would blow superhero fans minds.
Aaron Thomas
I think most writers don't get Superman. Superman isn't about some messiah complex or great responsibility to humanity or any of that business. He's the strongest guy in a fight, and he's going to win, so the interesting thing about him is how everyone around him acts and how HE reacts when it comes to things like his secret identity and the weird situations he can find himself in. Its like the He-man cartoon of the 80s. No one's going to beat He-man in a straight up brawl, but that was hardly ever the issue, both because of limits on cartoon violence, and because its more interesting to see him get sent to another dimension and depose some weird rabbit warlord or whatever.
Its sort of like One Punch Man, where everyone assumes the main character is some pushover schmuck, and he just nonchalantly deals with things. I mean when was the last time aliens invaded and Superman just cleaned their clocks while they're all flabbergasted this guy is just wrecking their shit? Everyone is so hung up on making a legitimate threat to Superman they miss the point that its not about that kind of thing.
Luke Jenkins
The reality of why Batman is so shitty is that he doesn't fit an archetype. Superman is the fish out of water who even though they are not his people decided to protect Earth no matter the cost. Spider-Man is the young hero tasked with great conflicts. Harley Quinn is the ditzy fun loving girl. Wonder Woman has the whole greek/mythological warrior thing going on. Hell, if Martian Manhunter was pushed harder im sure even he would be more popular than Superman because he's the outcast with a good heart; people loved him in the JL cartoons. But what is Batman? Just... the good tech guy who preps? Very few people care about stories involving that sort of character. It's the reason why people resonate more strongly with Captain America than the recent Batman movies. Captain America is built on the same foundation of the man who has to do good, but on top of that he has the stature of a soldier. Batman is too 'simple' or singular of a concept for modern audiences.
This is what you sound like
Jacob Jones
Iron Man can't sell books. He is so "popular" that he is dead for a year and no one gives a single fuck.
Ryder Rogers
Wait, Ironman was dead?
Xavier Foster
I'm not sure you know what an archetype is.
Sebastian Howard
>But what is Superman? Just... the good strong guy? Very few people care about stories involving that sort of character. Gilgamesh Samson Heracles Achilles Beowulf Siegfried Arthur Pendragon
You mean the stories that have endured countless ages? Those are the kinds of stories no one cares about? Make no mistake, this generation is utterly alone in having its head so far up its but that it sees simple, laudable characters as "boring," and "mary sues."
Chase Hughes
Perhaps it just needs a little Deconstruction. What if something happened to cause the Good Strong Guy... to become a Bad Strong Guy?
Michael Brooks
You mean the king whose people cried out to the heavens to please do something about because his behaviour was outrageous? You mean the guy who did the one thing God ordered him not to do because he was so in love with a foreign woman, throwing away everything in his life to meet her whims? You mean the guy whose temper was massive and whose story includes things like murdering his lyre teacher in a rage for correcting him? You mean the whiner who spends most of his story sulking alone in his tent and pondering his own mortality sue to a wounded ego? And so on. Beowulf is arguably the most "perfect" character on that list next to Fanboy Superman, but most of the rest have deep flaws and foibles to them. Hell, Arthur is a literal, non-meme cuckold and most adaptations actively blame him for Lancelot/Guinevere instead of making him powerlessly innocent or ignorant. The number of heroes who were as "simple, laudable" paragons of goodness that you are inventing Superman to be were far less than you are implying.
Dominic Hughes
Super Best Friends play is some group of youtuber Let's players, right? That alone probably makes them cancer, but what have they to do with comics?
Jason Campbell
One of them doesn't like Superman, because he's "too perfect" which makes him seem smug. The implication is that anyone who dislikes Superman must share that LPer's insecurity.
Evan Sanders
Seriously, that guy sounds awful. Can't he just play video games and have fun instead of shitting on something to make himself look better? Thank you user.
Joseph Morales
You mean RDJ, once he's gone so is Iron Man. Also this