Dceu Thread!

Mos2 announcement should be coming in the next few months, was planned for January but after JL's reception they are holding off.
comicbookmovie.com/superman/heres-an-update-on-where-things-currently-stand-with-warner-bros-man-of-steel-sequel-a157174

> Warner Bros. has reportedly decided to hold off on the announcement but the plan is still to unveil the movie - which won't be titled Man of Steel 2 - with a release date and director "pretty soon."

I am hoping for Gareth Edwards or Brad Bird to direct. Vaughn would be good if he struck a tonal balance similar to First Class, but I don't trust him to not go full campy Donner-lite.

My main Dceu wish at this point would be for them to cancel the Flashpoint movie.
There is no upside to doing it on any level.
> Can't do a faithful adaption as that would be far too dark & Snyder-ish for audiences.
> Thomas Wayne is pretty much the only reason anyone would want to see a Flashpoint movie and all evidence points to them throwing that out and having Affleck play a Bruce Wayne who never became Batman.
> Can't do a comedic silly version or it will come off as extremely pointless & jarringly out of place considering the gravity of the situation with time being altered.
> Will fuck over the possibility of doing future Flash films as any other story line will seem like a major step down in urgency & scope.
> No longer any point to changing history as Superman was well received in JL.
Fuck sake man.

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I hope WB stop hiring Hack Snyder now, liking Snyder movies was always considered the ultimate pleb/brainlet test.

Anyone older than 20 probably remember how even his precious dawn of the dead remake was constantly trashed.

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>Anyone older than 20 probably remember how even his precious dawn of the dead remake was constantly trashed.
Not really beyond retards complaining about the running Zombies.

>Not really beyond retards complaining about the running Zombies.

Compared to retards like yourself who liked them?

Or more like you’re a triggered nusoyboy cuckfag.

Heh no one cares about supes, another flop in the making with a 250/300 M budget like the previous two.
Better use that money to make an actual good flick with good characters.

five posts in and you have already started spouting buzzwords and insulting each other. are you people even able to have decent discussions anymore? fucking pathetic, I swear

Why there are so many insiders on WB desperate to talk to the press? I've never seen something like this. WB needs to check to his employees

it's mostly bullshit. there has been like a thousand articles claiming that affleck is off any further movies which has always turned out to be false
at this point, I think that it's mostly journalists just deliberately making up shit and putting that shit online. it's really a joke. I mean I fucking hated TLJ but just look at the articles surrounding it, they are nothing but mere jokes and an insult to every serious journalist

There was never going to be an MoS2 let's be real here

No I was indifferent to them running. But people acted like it was some deal-breaker that completely destroys the storyline.

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But his dawn of the dead remake is one of the best Zombie movies of all time.
It's not as good as the original, but it's better than 90% of the garbage pile that is zombie movies.

There is no good zombie movies, they are gore porn.

the first Dawn of the dead was great because it was a fresh concept at the time.

Zombie genre is like SAW movies, had a great first movie but after that just pure trash

>Mos2 announcement

kek

DCEU official song:
youtube.com/watch?v=5NECwV6rPik

seriously, if aquaman fails, just give up.
just find your new harry potter or something, WB.
you can't compete on this field anymore, not after all these failures.

We will get wonder woman 3 before MoS2

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day of the dead is better than dawn of the dead, and labeling it gore porn is the sign of a brainlet

Why didn't they simply make Secret Origins?
Mild Mannered Clark Kent going to Metropolis when everyone was a dickhole.
Lex Luthor is there but main threats are badguys made by Luthor like Metallo/Titano/KryptoniteMan/Parasite.
And we end on a nice big speech of him inspiring not him being something to worship.

>I hope WB stop hiring Hack Snyder now,

He hasn't been doing work-for-hire.

He funded the development of every movie after Man of Steel, using the money he was paid for Man of Steel.

The movies might be being panned but - aside from Justice League which had another 30% added to its budget after he left for really very understandable reasons - they're not particularly unprofitable, especially given that the merchandise seems to tick over nicely.

If WB want out now they'd need to buy out Snyder (who likely has several more directing jobs left on his contract) as well as Cruel and Unusual Films' stake (the production company that Zack and Deborah Snyder run, which is a significant investor in these movies), and agree to a payment (or, more likely, decades of payments) in lieu of lost earnings from the movies that C&UF intended to make, which would have earned money for both them and the other partners in the productions.

The only way out of that would be to have several films in a row flop - and even then, if they all flop financially because of things WB did when Zack wasn't around, he's still going to be paid. Forever. And ever.

Like the next time they made a Batman movie, and it wasn't the one he'd agreed to make for them under the DCEU banner? Paid off.

Want to make a Wonder Woman? Pay Zack.

Feels like it's time for a Green Lantern reboot that isn't the one Zack had planned? Pay the man.

That's how contracts work. He hasn't done anything WB didn't agree to, he has the honest intention of delivering what they asked for, and they in turn agreed to pay him not only for his directing and producing work, but a share of the profits.

Source:ASS

>He funded the development of every movie after Man of Steel, using the money he was paid for Man of Steel.
Source? And how the fuck this give Snyder control over DCEU? Why the fuck would WB be forced to make all their future DC movies as part of this universe?

You just went full retard right now

Because the bosses fucked them all over royally for their bonuses and they know DC could be worth billions on film if it was managed properly.

nice vidya cutscene.

youtube.com/watch?v=F6nVLvQOMLM

Source: he was paid 10% of the gross for MoS, as was widely publicized at the time, making him the highest paid director of 2013. It is unusual for producer-directors in that position to be paid all of the money in one lump sum, usually they "loan" it back to the studio by investing in future projects. This prevents the studio going bankrupt, unless everybody cashes out at once.

WB had no announced plans for any DCEU movies that didn't involve both Zack Snyder and his production company, Cruel and Unusual Films. The first subsequent movie to be made was announced, made and released on a schedule that very much matches what you'd expect from WB if they'd had no plans of their own.

Source: Cruel and Unusual Films have been investors in and producers of every DCEU movie. Cruel and Unusual Films is a production/investment vehicle run by the Snyders and a business associate.

>how the fuck this give Snyder control over DCEU

Because he's FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT, which is what Cruel and Unusual Films exists for, the funding of movie production.

>Why the fuck would WB be forced to make all their future DC movies as part of this universe?

They're not, and I never said they were.

But they signed a contract with Snyder/C&UF to produce the DCEU to the design and schedule agreed by both parties - if they back out while those movies are making money, they're in breach, and he'll get paid regardless, which leaves them making movies he's not involved in at all and still having to pay him sick $$$ for the privilege.

As long as he/C&UF are prepared to continue making them, and as long as they're profitable (with unprofitability caused by decisions on WB's part not being a reason to break the contract), WB would have to buy C&UF out of the contract. Otherwise they'd be hit for lost earnings, which is a suit they'd lose, publicly and humiliatingly.

I've already explained this to you once, but apparently you're too retarded to read long sentences.

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>I am hoping for Gareth Edwards
you mean, Zack Snyder-lite?

Injustice storymode?

>There is no upside to doing it on any level.
While I agree doing it is a stupid idea I do kinda love what Moviebob suggested if they're gonna do it anyway. Basically make it Flashpoint in name only and have it be a fun time travel romp. youtu.be/-0pgi5G68y8?t=5m47s

>don't know what source means
You just made even more claims instead.

Why didn't they just put Hinds into a fucking costume, why does Snyder like CGI so much? The only time it's been used where it was genuinely good for an actual character was Zod's suit. They made a practical armoured suit for Batman and it looked fucking fantastic, why didn't they do this for Steppenwolf, isn't it much cheaper?

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It's 2017, user. We have these things called 'webms'. You don't have to use over-saturated tumblr gifs made by ants.

id want vaughn if he can sneak in Millar (even though he is some exclusive with someone else I guess)
Kingsman 2 was nearly unwatchable and thats mainly Matt's fault for making it 19 hours long.

>no good zombie movies
Shaun of the Dead and Train to Busan would have a word with you.

Because they wanted to appeal to the portion of Superman fans that prefer when his stories have a epic sci-fi feel to them.
Also to have him be unprepared & thrust into the role during a extremely dire situation instead of having things go easy for him to contrast the Reeves films.

I don't see the resemblance at all beyond the color palate.
Most would say Snyder's big weakness is not enough restraint and with Godzilla 2014 many would say Edwards had far too much.

>Why didn't they just put Hinds into a fucking costume
They didn't want a repeat of Apocalypse.
Step had problems but he absolutely had more physical menace then Apocalypse did. Even in the face.

Just get Matt Reeves already as the new lead director. I liked his work in Godzilla 2014, I enjoyed his apekino effects, anyone but Hack Snyder that can't even into propper CGI

FUCKING SPIDERMAN 1 HAD BETTER EFFECTS THAN THIS SHIT

>I liked his work in Godzilla 2014
That was Gareth Edwards.

Oh, but I heard somewhere that he had to do some quick work in the special effects deparment so he could move on to finish Dawn of the Planet of The Apes

Maybe I was misinformed, but still, look at this. All of these movies have a better score on both ImbD and RT. How come they not trust in him? They better give him the whole cake after the upcoming Batman movie, unless WB rushes it to the point where it's garbage

I disagree I think Flashpoint needs to be done, as they really need to reboot the dceu and thats the easiest way to do it.

>There is no good zombie movies, they are gore porn.

Disney's Zombies would like to speak with you.

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>just find your new harry potter or something, WB.

Considering IT was a success they could build up the Stephen King shared universe after IT Part 2. The director wants to do a remake of Pet Sematary which has a minor link with IT so they could start there.

>He funded the development of every movie after Man of Steel, using the money he was paid for Man of Steel.

>Source?

You didn't provide an actual source. You just provide more bullshit in a wall of text that still makes it look like you are talking out of your ass (as someone else points out here: ).

You're also wrong

"Zack Snyder (who is helming DC’s Justice League) received $10M against 10% cash break even for his [first] DC film Man of Steel"

deadline.com/2017/08/patty-jenkins-highest-payday-female-director-historic-deal-wonder-woman-2-1202151303/

Deadline is a competent source for information, as would be the Hollywood Reporter or Variety.

Being paid $10 million doesn't make him 'the highest paid director. WB doesn't get the "gross" on any of their released films, and NO studio gives ANYONE on ANY film even 1% of the gross.

"10% cash break even" is not "the gross" by any stretch of the imagination. MoS worldwide gross was $$668,045,518.

boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2012.htm

Of which WB can - if we are very generous, be said to have made 60%, which is not the actual fact or case. But, for arguments sake, let's set the movie theaters let WB keep 60% of that worldwide take, or $401M (rounding up). Meaning IF it were gross, your boy takes $40M. But that assumes WB is going to suck up the $200+ million production budget and the $150M+ advertising/marketing budget for the film. Meaning they would lost money, if they gave your boy that $40M you think they gave him.

>But they signed a contract with Snyder/C&UF ... if they back out while those movies are making money, they're in breach, and he'll get paid regardless

You also have no idea of how Pay or Play or Guaranteed contracts work in Hollywood:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarantee_(filmmaking)

I'm not going to waste more time explaining to you HOW you are wrong, but invite you to read this (and for what you can't understand, just look it up at Black's Law Dictionary on line):

lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=2e1de5ff-93e0-411e-8800-643bf686b249

But let me explain it this way:

Andrew Garfield has a contract for TASM III (including an option for TASM IV). Marc Webb had a contract for two more films, putatively TASM III and IV.

None of the cash from S-M: Homecoming gross or net is going towards paying off either of those contracts.

Ryan Reynolds has a contract for further Green Lantern's films. Do you think he was paid for that out of Justice League or will be out of a future GL film? At most, what is likely is that C&UF will continue to be listed as a co-producer, on SOME films, depending on the contract, and they will get SOME negligible payment on those films and ONLY those films, depending on how their production contract is worded, just like Michael Uslan is 'credited' as a producer on BvS and JL (because Batman appears in those films) because of the way DC worded the contract with Uslan from the 1970s (and why he was also credited as a 'producer' on The Lego Movie - again Batman appearance - and Lego Batman), but his payment isn't significant, certainly not in the millions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_in_film

Do some actual research before you (and the other idiots repeating the Zach and Deb paid for the DC films BS) that you've been spreading for the past few months.

>he is some exclusive with someone else I guess

Miller signed a deal with Netflix for the Milerworld comics (and future MW books/ideas) that are not (e.g. Kick Ass, Kingsmen, etc.) already sold off to some other studio/production company. Not sure if it includes Miller's own ideas, because that would keep him from, for example, accepting a job to do a comic book for DC or Marvel in which he doesn't own the IP and I don't see how Netflix could do that, other than the contract probably includes a certain amount of time commitment on his part as 'consultant/producer/etc.'

jesus christ that cgi is terrible

>all evidence points to them throwing that out and having Affleck play a Bruce Wayne who never became Batman.

>WB doesn't want to do JDM as BatThomas
End my life.

Whatever ends up happening, just PLEASE keep Danny Elfman away from the fucking musical score. Tired of his bland shit.

This.

Give Zimmer all the shit you want, but i still listen to MoS and BvS's soundtracks.

>Bvs soundstrack
>good

Outside of the WW theme it's just generic Zimmer orchestral nonsense mixed with Junkie's pounding drums. It's just screaming noise for 2.5 hours.

Strongly seconded.
I vote for Michael Giacchino, his Rogue One score was mixed but had some superb tracks.
youtube.com/watch?v=Qemb3iBlp1o
I think he could do some fantastic stuff expanding off of Zimmer's Superman material.

>Junkie's pounding drums
>Outside of the WW theme
You're not making a lot of sense.

I don't really remember the music to BvS, but I do remember some of the music from MoS, which I only have seen in the theater and once at a friends 3D projection room in Hollywood - but if you held a gun to my head and played me ten random similar instrumental pieces of music, including two from MoS, I couldn't bet my life I could pick one of them out (20% chance) with 3 picks allowed.

OTOH, Justice League's music is one thing which was, for the most part, really bad.

Anyone have the webm of the flash vs superman fight?

>they're not particularly unprofitable
What a resounding endorsement for a film venture.
>especially given that the merchandise seems to tick over nicely.
Batman merchandise has been a thing since at least the 80's, it's hilarious how Snyderfags think BvS is pushing bat-product out the door.

>it's 2017
user, I...

From what fucking timeline did you came from?

>I vote for Michael Giacchino, his Rogue One score was mixed but had some superb tracks.

His Star Trek soundtracks have been top notch.

there's a practical suit too

Looks great.

id say Millar is pretty Hit or Miss with me (mainly misses) but his superman stuff was good and he really loves the (pre-crisis) character. He might be a little to obsessed with the 78 movie though.
People into the 78 movies always want to make superman cornier than he is in the comics

does that deal included nemesis? it was up for a movie at one point but i've not heard anything about it in years