Young justice

I just rewatched this the other day and I really liked it.
I liked the season 1 better than season 2, but I still quite enjoyed both.
What did Sup Forums think of it, are you guys excited for season 3 which is appearantly coming out this year.

Is good, a cartoon with a more serious tone on superheroes that DC and Marvel never do.

There is plot,character development etc

It's something unnusual nowadays where every cartoon is the generic calarts "lol so random" bullshit or the generic cheap trash like spiderman new cartoon.

Good to hear people liked it here, I always thought DC had way better cartoons than marvel.
I just hope they won't sideline the OG crew, since they aren't in that season 3 preview image.

what do we know about season 3 aside from this picture

who are the girls between blue beetle and speedy btw?

It is coming out in the last quarter of 2018 and it will be on netfkix I think

I liked it overall. It's pretty flawed honestly, both seasons for different reasons, but watching the original run from beginning to end was an experience to remember. It was also the first time I did it with Sup Forums so I might be biased. Where has the time gone.

The pilot was leaked and most anons seemed to like it, but when the series started for real, Sup Forums was pretty divided. I blame Weisman and crew for overdoing the keikaku, stilted catchphrases, teen drama and the horrible romance. But I always felt like part of the reception here was not muh Teen Titans show too.

The constant irregular scheduling contributed since it's better binged. The real-life drama when it and the rest of DC Nation was pulled without notice was something to behold. An user got laid because of that. Then Brazil or somewhere aired the rest of S1 before the US, people ripped and fansubbed them, and the Brazilian VA for Superboy spoiled stuff on Sup Forums.

DC streaming service which still doesn't hav a proper name.

Why are their heads drooping also who's the chick next to Jaime and I'm assuming Mia?

Traci 13 and Arrowette.

>a cartoon with a more serious tone on superheroes that DC and Marvel never do.
And this my friends is why you never take Young Justice Fags

It’s kinda sad that it’s now considered unique. Back in the day, cartoons similar in tone like Green Lantern, Beware the Batman, and Legend of Korra also aired.

I think he’s talking about currently, not overall.

>What did Sup Forums think of it,
Very divided. It has a shitload of flaws and compared to DC's lineup from the previous decade (Teen Titans, Justice League, JLU) it falls short of being good even compared to Weisman's catalog (he just came off Spectacular Spiderman too). What people like about it is the serial format and the attempt at serious drama which comes off as very CW-ish i.e. forced and hamfisted and if there's any consensus is that it had the worst rogue gallery of all the DCAU shows including Static Shock. What it did have was great production values and character designs and while the serial format eventually collapsed on itself in the second season and made you want to watch the next episode as soon as possible so the next season being streaming only will probably benefit it. So overall its decent, didn't surprise me like Green Lantern and wasn't as bad as DC's current lineup but it feels like it gets more praise for what it actually deserves.

Red Hood, Starfire, and Raven when

>red hood
trash, trash, trash
slutfus are good though

Teen Titans and Justice League are prettt flawed as well, though. TT was animu bullshit and season one of JL was awful.

JLU was great, but even that took a couple of retarded turns towards the latter half of the series.

It's one of the best superhero shows ever made, and is the best depiction of the DCU besides JLU. It has some easy nits to pick so the fine connoisseurs of Sup Forums equate that with it being terrible, such as a Saturday morning cartoon having a shadowy villain organization have everything going according to plan at the end of every episode, or a character having an annoying catchphrase despite the reveal that she is modelling herself after an annoying sitcom. Or a slightly different interpretation of the Joker that amounts to something like less than ten minutes of total screentime.

Season 1 was alright. It was a above-average YA novel adapted for animation, and it was competent. But the Superman neglectful dad thing was pretty cringy.

Season 2 was a clear Ben 10 ripoff meant to attract viewers. Blue Beaner and Static Shock made me feel like I was watching the minoriteam half the time, and neither the Reach or Light were good villains. I also couldn't get past Beast Boy being reduced to a background character after his role in Teen Titans. I didn't like that.

Something tells me Kamandi is in the series finale.
>"Oh my god... They really did it. You maniacs! You blew it up! Goddamn you all to hell!"

>and is the best depiction of the DCU besides JLU.
Top kek

Every fucking thread

>Having shit taste

>I always felt like part of the reception here was not muh Teen Titans show too.

Without a doubt. I think that's why they picked the cast they did, hoping they wouldn't have to deal with it, but they definitely did. Miss Martian S1 was no help to the cause, either, though...

Isn't it a Warner Bros streaming service?

Will wally come back or will he stay dead?

Teen Titans wasn't very good, please don't group it in with the Timmverse shows.

>has good design
>posts the Joker

What's wrong with you? Also, the rogue's gallery was pretty cool to me. Psimon, Vandal Savage, pretty cool Lex and Mercy, Black Beetle was fucking awesome, Cheshire, Sportsmaster, Black Manta... Deathstroke looked a little silly with the ponytail, but was still pretty cool.

There is any DC/Marvel show less flawed than justice league?

>or a character having an annoying catchphrase despite the reveal that she is modelling herself after an annoying sitcom

Look, I love the show, but Megan was the fucking worst in season one.

>not giving a single example
double kek

Marvel don't, is not a secret that Marvel cartoons are bad and ever theri best shows are mediocre at best

DC got Batman and Superman TAS

>Black Manta
Did anyone else kinda feel bad for black manta?

I don't think 3 years ago was far enough back to really be "back in the day" to anyone yet

I liked the fanfic better desu

The new suits sucks. Especially Kid Flash and Robin.

I hope Kara shows up in S3 to make Conner feel even more inadequate, so soon after having come to terms with himself.

>character designs
Rule 34 of some of the secondary characters confirms it as half of their porn uses YJ designs

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Why he has finally become a kinda sensible person who isn't just a ball of rage.

jesus christ...you can't be serious.

I appreciated that he hated Aquaman more than he loved his own son.

spectacular spiderman and avengers worlds mightiest heroes were both pretty solid though

What was his beef with aquaman anyway?

It'll have 26 episodes and will also feature the Wonder Twins.

I dig it.
I just hate how in all these adaptations with Jaime as Blue Beetle he's some lone wolf when one of the defining parts of his character in the 07 run was his positive relationship with his family and friends, who knew his secret and helped him out.

The TT movie did this as well and its awful

I remember Paco in Brave and the Bold, but I don't remember if he knew Jaime's secret or not.

His family knows about him in Young Justice, but it's more of mentioned info, and we haven't seen them in the show itself.

I have to this day never watched Young Justice. I always see it presented as one of the best cartoons ever. Is it really that good?

I don't know if it is the best ever, but it definitely is worth a watch.

>I always see it presented as one of the best cartoons ever.
You read too many threads that overhype it. It's alright and fills my animated DCU hunger better than anything else in the last 10 years considering how garbage the recent animated films are

Season 2 is fun but it has too many characters and keeps jumping between them so you don't get as attached to them as you would in season 1 where there was a core group. It doesn't help that several of the core group from season 1 have nothing to do in season 2.

I also didn't really care for most of the new characters.
I actually liked the minority squad better than most of the new members.

He just really fucking hates him.

Wait was he living a peaceful life, because ge thought aquaman was dead and literally blew it all up when he heard aquaman was still alive?

He REALLY hates Aquaman.

I didn't even onow wquaman had a son.
Why does he hate aquaman so much?

>Teen Titans wasn't very good,
Most people disagree with you.
If you can't look pass the animisms of TT than you will never going to like it but you have to be pretty autistic for it to be an issue especially after the first season.

>Teen Titans and Justice League are prettt flawed as well, though.
Not nearly as flawed as YJ though. I feel that their strengths overcome their weaknesses very well. Problem with YJ is that it had more weaknesses than strengths and it gets worse as it goes on tackling on more in the second season.

I was using the Joker as an example of how bad the rouge gallery of YJ was not for the designs but yeah he's definitely one of the exceptions.
>Psimon
Shit
>Vandal
>Lex
Didn't even do anything
>Black Beetle
Just a generic meathead
>Cheshire
Shit
>Sportsmaster
Was actually pretty cool in this but given that he's never been cool in anything is faint praise
>Black Manta
Was just kind of a loser in this. What's the point of the family drama when Aqualad NEVER thought of him as a father or had any inner turmoil willing to see his nice side? Because he's just an unfeeling robot compared to fucking Black Manta

I thought near the end Kaldur was a little remorseful that his father still chose to side against him, just like Manta was upset his son was deceiving him? Yeah, there's no lingering focus on it since the pacing in season 2 is so bad, but it's still enough to make me feel sorry for them, since Black Manta doesn't love his son enough to turn and Kaldur will always choose his duty over everything else.

Because he can.

The anime-esque cuts of TT never bother me (or most of Sup Forums for that matter so its probably just a vocal minority) what bothered me more was the constant switch in tones throughout the show especially in the first season. When the show was either a comedy or a character drama it was good but when it tried to juggle all at once it was a mess but it eventually solved this problem as it went on largely because it had good character writing unlike YJ. The first season of JL is just boring you can pretty much tell that they were holding back what they could do with the cast but the slow burn benefited the show a lot as the character building throughout the first season did loads for the characters like Green Lantern and Hawkgirl.

YJ's key flaws are largely within its pacing, writing and cast and these never really get fixed. I'm actually in the camp who likes the first season better than the second just for the fact that it does feel that the show improves as it goes on even if its a very bumpy road and despite a lackluster season finale more than makes up for it with a fair share of good to great episodes. Then season two comes along and undoes all the buildup, we never see how much Superboy grows, we never see how Wally show how much he's grown, Aqualad is still boring, Nightwing becomes Batman 2.0, Artmeis is still "just there" since she only existed for the mole subplot in S1 and M'gann balances between being the most interesting and most infuriating character on the show on top of that here's some more characters that'll never get any development and you got yourself a huge mess of a show.

>Is good, a cartoon with a more serious tone
>It's something unnusual nowadays where every cartoon is the generic calarts "lol so random" bullshit
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That kind of post doesn’t work on this context. Lurk more.

t. YJfag

You know what ruined it? They did everything to look edgy, grown up, bad-ass and hardcore. But when time has come to kill at least one character with a name on a screen, bad guy killed Ra's al Ghul. The only person in a room (literally) who had a guarantee ticket from dead.

Wally died though.

I really hope they don't bring him back. In my opinion one of the best things a character arc can have is a satisfying death scene, he had that, let him lie.

I hope he doesn't come back because he's fucking awful. Bart's a million times better and they knew it. It's probably why they were happy killing him off.

Season 2 has the best pacing of any superhero show ever.

>better pacing than TTG
No way

BUMP

bart and blue is the future

>Lex and Vandal didn't do anything

Except playing every character around them like a fiddle, gaining control of the entire justice league to help them achieve their goals, manipulate an alien empire, get a shot at controlling the united nations, getting a hold of one of the most powerful superweapons in the galaxy, come on top in spite of the team's and the league's interferance, and forge alliances with a lord of chaos and the god of Anti Life?

Let's hope he stay dead because I didn't really care for him in season 2.

>Busy seething with anger

Wrong Robin.

Also, what's this comic's target demographic? The kids who like teen titans go are too young to get the parody, and it's pretty meh humor for an older audience.

>I was using the Joker as an example of how bad the rouge gallery of YJ was not for the designs but yeah he's definitely one of the exceptions.

He was in it for like six minutes so hardly an indicator of what the actual rogue's gallery is like.

Yeah but the kids from S1 weren't very likable a good amount of the time. Especially Megan.

Oh shit, Steph's going to be in it?

>Most people disagree with you.
Most people haven't watched it since they were fourteen.

Seeing as those S3 only exists because of fans, and that this would be the perfect time to introduce speedforce, there's a very fair chance he returns.

It wasn't satisfying at all, he just faded away.

Steph's already been in it, nigga.

He was written out of S2 after a great amount of plot investment into his character growth in S1 that we never got to see reaped.

He showed up at the end of S2 literally just to die.

From a writing viewpoint, Wally's death was the very opposite of satisfying or even appropriate. It was Quicksilver tier of shock value no one actually care about.

Weisman has said the speedforce doesn't exist in this world.

Weisman has also said there wouldn't be a season 3. This show is now playing on its own network, by its own rules, thanks to the support of a very vocal fanbase. A fanbase that wasn't happy without how one its favorite characters was treated. What has been pre-established holds little authority now that the show has basically seen a soft-reboot.

Besides, a speedster fading away while running at his limit seems pretty fucking speedforce to me.

>Weisman has also said there wouldn't be a season 3

No, he didn't, he just said it was cancelled. He kept trying to get it made and finally succeeded. He never said "there's no season 3 and there never will be, because I don't want to make one." It's not the same.

I don't disagree that Wally isn't actually dead, but it's not through the speedforce.

>plot
yeah, a plot:
all according to kotaku
every single episode
>character development
lul

As like a nameless character that we only learned was her in the credits.

Well imo, it if it looks like the speedforce, it if acts like the speedforce, its the speedforce.

Weisman said "there's no speedforce" but did nothing to explain why or how speedsters powers work safely or how they can use their speedster abilities like phasing through walls. If Wally does come back (which is likely because its now proven to this team that fanservice keeps the lights on), it will be a perfect time for the show to introduce speedforce, which would write off all the loose ends Weisman has since left open. The man is stubborn as fuck. Saying speedforce doesn't exist and then writing around the speedforce anyway is all ego.

Rebirth gave him a better origin where Aquaman Killed his dad

>a better origin

His origin was best when it was ambiguous and vague and every potential answer was potentially untrue.

Okay, sure

I was kinda annoyed with Ed at the beginning when he kept whining about getting awesome superpowers.

>Just a generic meathead

t. meat

Dull as dirt, completely unoriginal. I'd rather he just fucking hate the guy. Like you ask him why he hates Aquaman so much, he just says "look at him"

Watching it live I thought I loved season 2 more, but when I rewatched it I actually liked season 1 a whole lot more. Part of it was I thought 2 was building to something better that whole time, but the other part is season 1 did the Justice League Unlimited thing well while focusing the plot better. Individual episodes and threats building to a finale.