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to quote: Here is some background info on upcoming events. Just in case someone doesn't have a clue what's going on here.
Italy is going for a big referendum.
Background is neatly explained by Wikipedia: >The Italian Parliament is described as a perfectly symmetric bicameral legislature, in that it has a lower house (the Chamber of Deputies) and an upper house (the Senate of the Republic) with the following characteristics: >[1] The two houses are elected simultaneously and for the same five-year term. >[2] The Government must have each house's confidence, and is responsible to both of them. >[3] All legislation must be passed in the same text by both houses: whenever a bill is amended by either house, it must be sent to the other one in a potentially endless process known as the navetta parlamentare (parliamentary shuttle). As you might imagine, this system is shit for many reasons: >[a] Countless MPs roaming the country >[b] Two houses are elected *at the same time* (unlike Amerifag Congress, which is renewed 33% every 2 years) >[c] Difference is the Lower House is voted by people 18+, whereas the Upper House is voted by people 25+ >[d] Other difference is the shape of the Districts are Different (we have less senators than deputies).
The new referendum proposes to: >[1] Lower House will be the legislative bodies >[2] Senate number of MPs is reduced >[3] Senate will legislate only on certain matters >[4] Members of the Senate will not be elected directly by the people -- rather, they will be elected by the members of Regional Councils (akin to State Governments in Australia). So, basically, every Regional body elects its own representatives to the Senate. >[5] President of the Republic is still allowed to nominate up to 5 Senators for life (usually: scientists, statesmen, Nobel prizes, and former Presidents), which will weight more considering the number of Senators is reduced from about 350 to 95.
Evan Morales
4th of december
Carson Cruz
"NO" WILL WIN
Isaiah Wood
Dégoutant...
Blake Turner
>77 KEK WILLS A NO
Dylan Davis
This
Ethan Nelson
I asked this late in the other thread, I don't think anybody saw it:
What do you put in Carbonara: guanciale or pancetta?
Same question for amatriciana?
Whole egg for carbonara or just egg yolk?
Ryder Sullivan
fugg, Kek is speaking in misterious ways
Aaron Jackson
Repeating my question from last thread: Are italians white? Pictures always look like europeans, but everyone in Rome that's not a tourist looks like a paki.
Lincoln Brown
guanciale, whole egg
Lincoln Green
>Are italians white?
Bien sur que non, Hans...
Brody Howard
no, we are mediterraneans /argument
take this shit to another thread
Lincoln Johnson
REPOST PER IL NO
1) La riforma è stata prodotta da un parlamento votato con legge incostituzionale 2) La riforma non è chiara su diversi punti. Non si capisce quali sindaci saranno mandati a fare i senatori, non si capisce quali consiglieri saranno mandati, e non si capisce in base a quale criterio 3)Produce ulteriori conflitti d'interesse. I nuovi senatori voteranno in base ai loro interessi locali e non i base a quelli nazionali. 4)Adesso ti ritrovi gente come Giggino a' Purpetta in Senato. Con l'immunità. 5)Con il sistema del premio di maggioranza l'equilibrio dei poteri non è garantito 6)E una riforma imposta dall' (((EU))) per accelerare le (((riforme))), quindi ti beccherai tonnellate di privatizzazioni, leggi incomprensibili contro gli interessi italiani e soprattutto tanta, tanta diversità culturale dall' Africa
Ricordate di segnalare per spam il rottoiculo che parla francese che sennò ci manda in image limit
Grayson Lopez
P R A I S E
Matthew Reed
in english, we want people to understand it
Tyler Myers
OF course
Jacob Price
...
Luis Cooper
Italexit when?
Nathan Price
Are the people of Italy safe from the migrants, or are they being hurt as much as Germany and Sweden's people.
Isaiah Scott
Nah...
Isaiah Sullivan
Grazie mille.
ITALY NO!
Carson Carter
tfw: >you created the original format >you left it running expecting it to 404 quickly >you had sex with a 17 y.o. girl (I could be her father: all legal, of course) >you come back and the topic is up and raging >new OP is managing things for you
W-well... t-thank you guys.
Angel Jackson
we're a lot safer than they are, Italy is proudly racist
Anthony Richardson
am i supposed to dip bread in the oil or what?
Owen Jenkins
These are actually good questions.
Purists prefer guanciale, but pancetta is widely used and personally I prefer it, as it is less fatty. No bacon though.
Full egg for carbonara.
Agreed.
Uncut here as well (mostly, but not as much as in Italy, because it's full of Jews and Turks)
Source: I go in a gym full of Turkish men.
Christopher Jenkins
KEK WILLS IT
Christian Carter
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK the 7s have spoken! PRAISE KEK
Michael Peterson
no problem
you're supposed to put oil on the bread with some salt
Brandon Ramirez
>Sicily >Italy
1/10 bait, made me reply
David Hall
i don't know why everyone finds this so complicated, cabonara is: an egg, bacon, peas, cream and cheddar.
Ayden Martin
Original ricetta from Amatrice is with guanciale. Some use pancetta instead.
Don't know about carbonara i've always eat with pancetta.
Zachary Cox
don't reply to that asshurt leaf, he chimps out in every thread about Italy just let him simmer in his butthurt
Julian Roberts
say what?
Blake Scott
Everyone see:
## I AM CURRENTLY READING THE WHOLE CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM ##
I am currently reading the whole thing. It doesn't sound that bad. I am ***not*** a lover of Renzi (please take my word for it).
But I like the following ideas: [1] The Senate will deal with EU. And since Senators represent Regions... this means an excellent chance to make local voices be heard. [2] The legislative process is shortened and there will be no bullshit things such as "I presented 800000 amendments just to slow down the thing. [3] IMPORTANT: formerly I wrote Senators for life are maintained. That was WRONG. New President-appointed Senators will last for 7 years only. [4] IMPORTANT: asymmetry is guaranteed between voting times. Senate is renewed piece by piece, according to when Regions hold local elections. Formerly it was: everyone votes for Senators at the same time they vote for other MPs.
Let's not underestimate the power of this shit.
So far, people who support "NO" are either: [a] Against Renzi (for a matter of principle); [b] Against a specific thing in the whole reform (so they don't despise the reform, but just an article of it or two).
Please respond with cogent arguments. Possibly this shit is worth more than I thought.
Brayden Edwards
VOTE YES
Reason: this:
Cooper James
>Italians >Not part of the circumcised master race
It's the 21st century you fags. No girl wants to deal with an anteater cock.
Adam James
>4)Adesso ti ritrovi gente come Giggino a' Purpetta in Senato. Con l'immunità. Implying Razzi is not a Senator at the moment.
Mason Phillips
Tous ce qui est au sud de Rome a l'air Arabe, Gianluigi...
Cameron Torres
>Are the people of Italy safe from the migrants, or are they being hurt as much as Germany and Sweden's people. Man, Sweden has 17% migrants in their country. Italy has 9% at best... less than France ffs.
David Phillips
I wonder who could be behind this post
Justin Cruz
>We just tan very quickly and love to mislead people this way. Nah, it's not just that. They don't look at all alike. Monobrows etc. >take this shit to another thread Why so defensive? Isn't this the thread to ask such questions? I heard that people in some regions are more European looking than others. Could the people in Rome be gypsies? (You)
Liam Rogers
because in Rome there are a lot of paki maybe?Also a lot of niggers.
Brayden Hernandez
ITALEXIT is the most ridiculous term of the bunch. It will not happen. KEK bless this post with doubles
Chase Sanchez
Sei un amico.
Ayden Powell
That is great to hear I hope everyone stays safe.
Brody Campbell
Io traduco e tu reporti quel coglione.
REASONS TO VOTE NO 1)REFERENDUM PROPOSED BY UNCONSTITUTIONAL PARLIAMENT 2)UNCLEAR, DOESN'T SAY THE CRITERION OF CHOICE FOR NEW SENATORS (THEY WILL BE CHOSEN AMONGST REGIONAL COUNCILS AND MAYORS, WHICH MAKES THOUSANDS OF THEM VERSUS 100 SENATORS AVAILABLE) 3)NEW SENATORS WILL VOTE ACCORDING TO LOCAL AND NOT NATIONAL INTEREST, THEY WILL BE EASIER TO BRIBE (I.E YOU VOTE THIS, YOUR CITY GETS THE MONEY SO YOU GET RE ELECTED) 4)MAFIOSI IN THE SENATE, THIS TIME WITH IMMUNITY 5)CREATES ASYMMETRY IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF GOVT POWER THANKS TO MAJORITY PRIZE SYSTEM 6)ITS IMPOSED BY THE EU TO ACCELERATE EU BASED REFORMS, SO EXPECT ANTI ITALIAN LAWS, DIVERSITY AND EURO GLOBALISTS FUCKING US WITH GRAVEL
REFERENDUM NEEDS TO CRASH. WITH NO SURVIVORS
Xavier Harris
uscITA
Juan Myers
Check'd!
Joshua Phillips
>No girl wants to deal with an anteater cock. I fucked enough Americans and Aussies to know it's exactly the opposite.
Blake Nguyen
Nope. Greek American here.
Landon Parker
>look at me I'm italian
Nobody cares about italy you fucking ricchione frocio cocksucker fuckoff
Mason Garcia
Checked.
So NO will win and Italexit is never going to happen.
Thanks kek
Camden Brown
è un piacere, dopotutto stiamo parlando di roba importante
trust me, we're still safe
Julian Perry
how do you maka the spicy meatabol
Juan Martin
>Why so defensive? Isn't this the thread to ask such questions? it's always the same crap that leads nowhere "white" is a mongrel term for new worlders with no identity of their own
we have no need for that shit in the first place the north is more west mediterranean and "continental" to a degree, the south is more east med, that's it
Jacob Perry
We have less because we don't have jobs and no free shit either. Also actual slavery in the south niggers can't escape from, it's weird but the government can't do shit because 'ndrangheta is very powerful.
Dominic Ramirez
>Is italy going through an economic crisis right now?
Italy has been in economic crisis since the 1970's This last big recession you caused ? We didn't notice it, things kept going down at the same rate.
>? All they do is think about food, wine, and sex. You have something better ?
>Even with all their gibs? I don't see the gibs, gov't swallows all.
>making sure local leaders are at least accountable to to their own and not some super-national bod
Sure. here's a question for the other Italianbros; Can anyone name anyone in the Senate who isn't a fucking theif, and a whore to the EU ?
Parker Cox
what do you think about your norther neighbours. do you vote for the turtle party?
Samuel Peterson
Hows Italy's immigration going? Are you being flooded like the rest of europe? e.g Paris streets level
Easton Jones
Ce n'est pas juste la couleur de la peau mais la laideur aussi...
Gavin Richardson
fair enough
Justin Gomez
Why is your tax system so punitive towards young, single people? Was just there with my girlfriend and her family and had it explained to me by them. Until you're married, it's basically pointless to have a job.
Basically didn't see a real work ethic from anyone while I was there. Naples, btw.
Daniel Ward
What "Shadilay" word means? What is the meaning of that song?
Kayden James
You know what? We are not white We are a nearly succesful inbred of various thing We are Italians And every one of you can suck our big nordic-mediterranean cock
Brandon Hall
EXITALY
Isaac Kelly
>circumcised >master race
you literally lose glans nervous endings in time due to the fact your glans is always exposed ending up "feel" less pleasure by doing sex and you call this jewish trick "master race"? Top kek
Josiah Ramirez
Stai faciendo il video?
Ian Cruz
USCITA
Eli Campbell
NON GLI RISPONDERE DIO BESTIA SEGNALA PER SPAM CHE LO BANNANO
Adam Scott
>REASONS TO VOTE NO >1)REFERENDUM PROPOSED BY UNCONSTITUTIONAL PARLIAMENT Unconstitutionally elected parliament. Question: would you vote yes, had it been a constitutionally elected one? >2)UNCLEAR, DOESN'T SAY THE CRITERION OF CHOICE FOR NEW SENATORS (THEY WILL BE CHOSEN AMONGST REGIONAL COUNCILS AND MAYORS, WHICH MAKES THOUSANDS OF THEM VERSUS 100 SENATORS AVAILABLE) Not specific enough? >I Consigli regionali e i Consigli delle Province autonome di Trento e di Bolzano eleggono, con metodo proporzionale, i senatori tra i propri componenti e, nella misura di uno per ciascuno, tra i sindaci dei Comuni dei rispettivi territori. Nessuna Regione può avere un numero di senatori inferiore a due; ciascuna delle Province autonome di Trento e di Bolzano ne ha due. La ripartizione dei seggi tra le Regioni si effettua, previa applicazione delle disposizioni del precedente comma, in proporzione alla loro popolazione, quale risulta dall'ultimo censimento generale, sulla base dei quozienti interi e dei più alti resti. La durata del mandato dei senatori coincide con quella degli organi delle istituzioni territoriali dai quali sono stati eletti, in conformità alle scelte espresse dagli elettori per i candidati consiglieri in occasione del rinnovo dei medesimi organi, secondo le modalità stabilite dalla legge di cui al sesto comma. Con legge approvata da entrambe le Camere sono regolate le modalità di attribuzione dei seggi e di elezione dei membri del Senato della Repubblica tra i consiglieri e i sindaci, nonché quelle per la loro sostituzione, in caso di cessazione dalla carica elettiva regionale o locale. I seggi sono attribuiti in ragione dei voti espressi e della composizione di ciascun Consiglio».
[cont.]
Brandon Rogers
Grandma and her family are from Milan. Are they white?, i mean by /pol's autistic standards.
Jaxon Brown
i have risen to a new level
Jackson Cook
checked. i guess you pizzas are gonna be the axis again, hope you enjoy carpetbombing
Matthew Jones
>art thou recording our coitus with your electronic device? >why yes m'lady >most excellent!
Nolan Hughes
> (OP) > Italexit when?
When we get kicked out. Otherwise, we never leave the hellhole.
Mason King
FIGA when? facciamo l'Italia grande ancora! make Italy great again!
Hunter Jenkins
Are people still assblasted over Amanda Knox?
Dominic Wilson
>You know what? >We are not white >We are a nearly succesful inbred of various thing
Au moins tu es réalistes, Gino...
Noah Torres
Fuckin pizza nigger threads
Parker Cook
Salsa for this?
Julian Hall
It's useless for us to classify as whites or not because we had a lot of great people anyway, we don't need validation to know we're a great people anyway.
Enrico Fermi, Federico Faggin, Enzo Ferrari, Rocco Francis Marchegiano AKA Rocky Marciano, (((((Rita Levi Montalcini)))), Guglielmo Marconi, Samanta Cristoforetti, Segre, Galilei, Majorana etc.etc We don't need the "white" term to feel proud of ourselves.
Benjamin Jones
>I don't see the gibs, gov't swallows all. Our Universities and also many townships around where I live got more cash from the EU than from the gov. And we're not in the South.
>Can anyone name anyone in the Senate who isn't a fucking theif, and a whore to the EU ? Carlo Rubbia.
Jeremiah Ward
>assblasted nigga she left the country and we aren't paying for her detention she killed a Brit anyway, you can have her
Robert Miller
>FIGA when? > facciamo l'Italia grande ancora! > make Italy great again!
he had his chance and completely fucked it up.
Ayden Allen
A genius!
Levi Adams
>Fronte >Italiano >Giovani >Anarchici
Because KEK is Chaos.
Isaac Barnes
Guess who gets reported for spam today?
Caleb Moore
By pol's standard not even Hitler is white.
Sebastian Kelly
>Peas >cream >cheddar
Caleb Hernandez
Oh, I didn't mean it in a bad way. It just bothers me how my image of Italians as basically white looking with slightly stronger tan doesn't hold up to what I'm seeing whenever I'm there.
John Thomas
Well, according to the recent documentary, you guys were pissed.
I guess not.
Josiah Watson
Vas y fort salope...comme une petite bitch a l'école..
Jacob Murphy
sure thing
mega:///#F!KwkFjKLQ!4ZEw7Y4zu9yi2UdlYstkjw
just bear in mind she killed herself over this
SHE DIED FOR OUR JIZZ!
Levi Bell
-b- BUT THAT'S NOT BABY jEsu's!?! > [acquired noodelt inserted] This has been modified for the purpose of Allah:ليوم تذكير (ctr)الله ملاك العلم يأتي الآنالله ملاك العلم يأتي الآ > greylivesmatter > allliesmatter
Tiziana is with Him now. She's in peace. Rest in KEK
Dominic Ward
I read carefully the whole case. It seems to me she gave the Negro the keys of Meredith's house because the pot smoker claimed he wanted to make her a surprise... or possibly because he had to drop "something".
Then she went to Sollecito's place and they had sex.
In the morning, they found: >Meredith dead Investigators found: >mobile phone thrown behind a bush >Negro fleeing to Germany on a fucking train with Meredith's PC
They found Amanda guilty, but she's not suffering from it.