Why tho?

why tho?

So Bryke could virtue signal probably.

>support korrasami from the start
>it finally happens
>be disgusted by how forced it is

id rather have the ship live on in fanfics and art rather than be exploited in canon

>/u/ doesn't even really like the second volume
womp

Mako turned them gay

4 years and my jimmies are still rustled

As badly written as it was Makorra was a hot couple. The show was just filled with hot people.

probably because they started liking each other romantically

Because they were trying to be trendy and progressive

Well, Korrasami happened, but Korra and Asami didn't have enough wacky adventures with homoerotic subtext to build it up.

Imagine if they were, like, actually friends and "Asami is gay for Korra" was a running gag for the first three seasons.

Her voice actress tried to spin it that way while conveniently ignoring that Asami was ready to fuck Mako in her warehouse in book 2. Then again in his apartment. Point is Asami was ready and willing to try again with Mako.

Desperate attempt to close a bad show with something people with call progressive.

Don't really think having Asami be gay, would make Korra gay too. But either way there wasn't enough buildup or focus to lay the groundwork of a relationship between the two.

You can't criticize it if there are gays my dude.

In fairness that was three years before book 4

He's Bud Bundy. Of course, he turned them gay.

I honesty did not see it coming.

Didn't set right for me. Started to think why. What next for these lebos? will they get married and adopted? Will Mako be a sperm detonator for them? What does he think about his exes hooking up? Will they have threesomes? Whats the point of gay relationship in general?

Haha, don't tell me you snowflakes are still buttmad over this.

>What does he think about his exes hooking up?
Well in the comic he insists he's fine with it, but he also said that after Bolin asked him if he was upset over it, and in a very "no everything's fine STOP ASKING" Mako-ish way. Chances are he doesn't really have a problem with it and he's just in a bit of shock.

Yeah but it doesn't match the "Asami always had feelings for Korra" narrative. Anyone with basic storytelling skills can watch the first two books and tell Asami and Korra barely had a friendship.

To piss off millenials

Has anyone asked Bryke? I mean like actually asked why it happened in context of how the relationship felt like it came out of nowhere? I'd like to see a quote

They spent 2 seasons all over each other. Nothing wrong with bisexuals

To set up the best ship.

Last second SJW brownie points. And it worked.

They pissed off millions.

I kinda saw it coming and at the same time did not.
They did had clearly a closer relationship during book 3 and 4, but i just thought "It would be awesome if they really end up together, but naah, it's obvious it won't." because all shows that have females being so close with each other are just "friends"

When it happened i was actually genuinely happy, even if i felt like it could have been done better. But the comics are horrible piss shit that shouldn't be counted as canon, just like the ATLA comics.

To prevent the series from being forgotten from history

See? We're still talking about it, even though the smart thing to do would be to ignore it.

>setup subtle hints for 2 seasons
>kissless virgins are as inept to seeing them as in real life
>suddenly surprised and upset when things come to fruition

>The show was just filled with hot people
That shouldn't be surprising, there is a lot Fire Nation characters there.

>'That is bisexuality': The Thread

Hot lesbians are a quick and easy way to placate most of the audience while making it difficult to argue against if you don't like it.

Its disappointing that they made Korra go full bull dyke. Did they ever have the balls to make one of the male main characters queer in the comics? Sokka, Zuko, Aang, Bumi Jr? Someone besides that one shot minion that they left rotting in a motel.

My feelings exactly. Now I can't help but cringe everytime I see a pro-korrasami post.

Some people are still buttmad about what happened in 1930s in Germany.

>muh SJW boogeyman

Operation: Rainbow Shield.
Just like EA.

They wanted a romance without the trouble of having to write one

This. Bryke wanted Korra to not be forgotten as the atrocity it was, and this was the perfect way to do it, pull off their asses a polarizing subject matter that would have fans wetting their panties or getting enraged over how bullshit the move was.
And of course, if you criticize it you’re homophobic. :)

>as the atrocity it was

Speak for yourself. The series got generally positive reviews and has millions of fans worldwide. It's not bad just because this board pretends it is since they are butthurt over Korrasami.

Well, compared to Atla it's really bad

AtlA was always going to be a tough act to follow.

It was so bad, Nick sold its rights for airing on television so they wouldn’t air it again, so I don’t know.

The show was forgettable. Last ditch effort to make it memorable.

They needed some objective way too make the series seemed worth the money and time.

An LGBT milestone is going to keep it from irrelevantly more than it’s so-so writing.

>popularity = quality
It was a bad show, I don't give a fuck how many people liked it. Also, Korrasami is the least of its problems.

But it still didn't kill the Avatar franchise like people on Sup Forums keep believing and saying. If anything kills the franchise it's Nick, because they clearly don't want anything to do with it but they won't give it up because it makes them money.

>shadman

Then I would drop it there.

Funny thing is there was more gay subtext between Zuko and Aang in the original show but the writers weren't retarded enough to make that endgame.

There really wasn't. Like it or not, there were hints for Korrasami and plenty of people predicted it.

Bullshit. The one actual hint that suggested anything beyond a close friendship was when Asami complimented Korra's hair and she blushed. That was it. It would be fine if it was two side characters but completely unacceptable for an endgame relationship between the protagonist and one of the main characters.

Because idiots in the fandom yelled about their headcanon so much the makers said "sure whynot".
See also gay Dumbledore.

>why tho?
Sexuality is fluid.
Get over it.

Nah, there were other hints. The first major one being at the end of book 3, when Asami was comforting Korra. The lingering physical contact, and the way Asami spoke to Korra, there was a vibe there indicative of more than friendship. Of course that's just one scene, and at the time I thought I might be looking too much into it, but s4 is sprinkled with little scenes like that. It's subtle, but definitely noticeable. That's not to say that Korrasami wasn't half-assed and pointless, but comparing it to Zuko and Aang is silly.

Most positive reviews only praise it on political grounds: that is, the protagonist is a "strong, independent Queer woman 'Of Color'" and not much else. Even people that liked the series don't bother recalling more than the other Korrasami ending, which says a lot.

Now that's just straight up wrong. You can't blame everything you don't like on the SJW boogeyman.

This is the same "reason" defenders give.
It's ok that you like the pairing but please don't say that it was well done and there were "hints". If you will make a love story, then make a love story or don't do it. This was so irrelevant to the plot that the only ones interested were shippers and maybe lesbians who felt identified and had them in their head canons.

What is canon is canon now and I wouldn't complain. But it was horribly done. We didn't root for them, it was just slapped out of nowhere, the creators called homophobic the people who pointed that it was badly developed, it took away the real topic of the series and now a franchise that started with an epic quest to save the world ended being about gay relationships. Haven't you seen the publicity for the latest comics? That's like turning Kim Possible, suddenly into a politics show. If you think that's not all over the place, then you're just talking just because.

As I say, this is not like it's something from the past. We still have ongoing comics of this. Stop using this excuse either.

Characters are revealed to be lesbian.

2004: Cool
2014: WAAAAAAAH THIS IS MUH SJW PROPAGANDA FORCED BY THE JEWS WHAT A TERRIBLE SOYA KEK TUMBLR SHOW WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Why not?

>virtue signal


Nice buzzword, user; too bad it doesn't mean anything.

>I honesty did not see it coming.

Bryke really have problems with foreshadowing important stuff, user. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

>Virtue signalling
>Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.[1] The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious.[2] In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action.[3][4]

They realized that the LOK was had failed on a lot of the writing. They knew they wheren't coming back to the Avatar World and they wanted a "Legacy" and they thought putting some kind of LGBT milestone in their show would somehow make up for the plotholes and weak characters in the past four seasons.

It's like a monkey's paw wish.

Generally, people don't complain about them being bi, they complain about the way they did it and then when people got confused they called them homophobic.

Like really, the question is well placed there, why tho? They never make anything to make em interesting for people in the story or to make people truly notice. Then they gave us a pairing just because "people liked the ship" or "progressiveness". Yes, it happened, bi people exists. But in context of the story, why for? They didn't make a story with them to give us that as the franchise ending in television.

Now, they are like desperately developing that after the show in the comics, that turned prominently about gay relationships instead of the original topic of the series.

Would people have even cared about the show six months after it ended if it wasn't for that bit?

>quotes a definition that straight up calls him out as empty and meaningless

It's because people are paranoid about the bad ones like America Chavez that they forget about characters like Renee

Oh fuck wrong thread

'Virtue signalling' has a fairly unambiguous definition. It's not like 'cuck' which has lost all meaning by this point.

How are they a boogieman if they're legit a thing and get popular on the internet because of the way the big tech companies promote extremism? It's like saying Sup Forums is a boogieman. Obviously right wing extremism exists too.

Making a character gay for the sake of brownie points is the SJW thing in a nutshell. It's thoughtless, uninformed left-wing politics. It was dumb, it wasn't written well, and they were probably hoping it would get them talked about since the show itself wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. SJW bullshit was a hot topic when the episode aired.

The way I see it, a SJW is anyone who's a racist douchebag pretending to know a lot about other people while actively being condescending and misanthropic. They say things like, "the blacks can't do this, and the gays can't do that", like skin color or sexual orientation were some sort of monolithic experience. They'd say, "Oh, the gays aren't on TV", so some people in the industry added "the gays" to their work.

Do Korra and Asami really come across as people who are homosexual? Or did they just spontaneously become "the gays" at the last fucking minute. Because I felt like it was the latter.

Even in its semi-useful definition, it expresses untenable assumptions and suppositions about motives, in a world where *people actually care about the issues at hand*. It's excessively dismissive and used as a snarl word and nothing but, to defame one's ideological opponents.

It means precisely zip, zero, zilch, nada, nothing.

see

You need better reading comprehension. It's saying that virtue signalling itself is considered empty and meaningless, not that the term has no meaning.

That's like saying that calling someone a "liar" means nothing in all context, on the basis that political opponents often accuse each other of being liars.

see

Because they knew they'll have legions of defenders

No it isn't.

How is it not? You fuckin' liar!

Yes it is.

See how easy that is?

>why tho?
When you know you haven't lived up to expectations, just pander to the critics at the end so you'll still get a standing ovation. For cartoons, comics or video games all you need for that is something "progressive", even if it make no narrative sense. No, ESPECIALLY if it makes no sense, because if it looks forced then you look like a soldier for the cause rather than just an ally.

yeah pretty much this.

>people still defend this forced tumblrina pairing
It's fine if you like the porn it brought, but don't claim it was well written or not forced.

>Air Nomads tolerated gay relationships
I’m still mad. The air nomads were monks, they should have barely tolerated straight sex.

So it's unreasonable to question/attack one's motivations under any circumstance?

>Do Korra and Asami really come across as people who are homosexual?
Bisexual, and sure why not.

Yes, both authors wrote on their blogs long texts about it. They wanted to clarify that they're bisexual, not lesbians, and that yes they're a couple, since some people were in denial.

Those two things are fine. What pissed me off what's the part about "it was subtle but there all along" and "hetero glasses". Bullshit. You know, I usually try to be sympathetic, and I know how hard it still is to write gay people. If they had said "sorry folks we did the only thing Nickelodeon allowed us to" I would've forgiven them for bad writing.

>hetero glasses
This kind of comment would usually piss me off, but I actually agree with them. If Asami was a guy, way more people would've been saying how they were going to get together.

I still think KorraxBolin and MakoxAsami is the true pairing

>Do Korra and Asami really come across as people who are homosexual? Or did they just spontaneously become "the gays" at the last fucking minute. Because I felt like it was the latter.

Ok, you're mixing two different topics here. What was terrible written was their relationship. People don't comes across as "homosexual". Or heterosexual, or bisexual - which btw, is what they are. They didn't suddenly become gay, they've always been bi. Which is fine. Their interest in each other though? That's the out of nowhere thing,

>This kind of comment would usually piss me off, but I actually agree with them. If Asami was a guy, way more people would've been saying how they were going to get together.
They didn't ask Nick if they could do this until the end. In season 3 she spends more time near Mako than she does Korra aside from their time in the desert, and in that episode Korra doesn't interact with Asami in a meaningful way. Plus it was Mako who told them to split up for the fight, Asami didn't even volunteer an idea and tell the brothers "Hold them off, I'll get Korra to safety." Again she had no purpose on the show beyond season 1 as others were making meaningful decisions for her and her interactions with Korra had Korra not take anything from their time together. Whenever Asami offers something or insight, Korra ignores it or says it doesn't matter. The likes of Tenzin and Mako and Zaheer end up mattering more in their interactions than Asami.

>I still think KorraxBolin and MakoxAsami is the true pairing
god could you imagine?
no drama no jealousy
just good times and cuddles all over republic city and beyond
and even KorrAsami shippers would be happy when they all bang as one solid unit in the fanservice episode

In the context of other series, I would agree with you. There are plenty of so called "fujoshit" pairings that if they were het people wouldn't argue about, because that's what happens when you have a girl and a boy in the same room, right?

But that doesn't make it good writing. If Asami had been a guy and the writing had been still the same, it would also had been shit. We complain about this shit happening in movies all the time, user, the guy getting the girl just because that's the rules and not becase the movie sold it. It's forced and extremely stupid.

What does your comment have to do with what I said?

>But that doesn't make it good writing.
I agree. Kataang was also shit.

Is that the gay robot from Digimon?

>god could you imagine?
>no drama no jealousy
Just shit writing since none of them aside from Korra have a purpose for staying on the show beyond season 1 aside from being in a romantic relationship. Hell with the way the characters were put forth they didn't even have a purpose in season 1 besides shipping.

So they could salvage a bad show by evaluating it beyond criticism by giving it a progressive angle. You need only observe the thread to see the results for yourself.

Korrasami didn't piss me off so much as Bryke's attitude about it, with the whole "You're just watching it with Hetero-lenses" (which is just a smug way of saying "you should have had your yuri shipping goggles set to maximum.") They tried to play it off like they crafted a subtle, clever romantic subplot to a masterpiece of a show, and not a clumsy, minimum-effort capitalization of the shipping fandom in an effort to tack on some kind of conclusion to a season that barely had any sensible interaction between not only what would become the main romantic couple, but basically the entirety of Team Avatar, and they're the fucking protagonists (keep in mind, this is not an issue isolated to season 4, season 4 was just their last chance to actually fix the problem and they failed and were likely somewhat aware of it.)

(you ever notice how Mako, Bolin, and Asami are always at their most watchable when Korra isn't there, and that Korra similarly is at her best when they aren't present? I can't be the only one that thinks this.

Korrasami is the least of LoK's problems. It wasn't even so much a problem as it was a cheap, ingenuine pseudo-solution to the show's many, many problems, which is why I don't find it quite as groundbreaking or satisfying as the critics and reviews seem to think I should. It seemed more like Bryke realized they missed their mark by a long shot, and just decided to capitalize on what fanbase they had left in the last season (because lets face it; the only people still watching by that point were shippers and a small group of people on Sup Forums.) I didn't hear a fucking peep outta Bryan or Mike about LGBT stuff before the Season 4 finale.

fuck you retards are still crying

>The series got generally positive reviews and has millions of fans worldwide.
Yeah, it's rating were so great, they took it off the air and had to stream the rest online, and then cut their funding halfway through season 4.
>that was only because most of their viewers watched it online
Which is a PR-friendly way of trying to spin the fact that that the ratings sucked and anyone that was watching it just watched it online, meaning Nick didn't even think it was worth the tv timeslot, which is a far more profitable source of ad revenue.

I don't know where people are getting the idea LoK has such an enormous fanbase. Maybe Korra herself does, and Korrasami by proxy, but at this point I doubt it's because her show was so good. Networks don't treat shows like that if they're profitable, which LoL obviously wasn't

Mako did nothing wrong and deserved bettter.

>that spoiler
Nope. You aren't wrong. Bolin and Mako's best moments are with each other. Korra drags everyone fucking down, including Asami.

Korra shockingly works pretty well with Tenzin or Lin post S1.

God the "Krew" was way worse than the "Gaang."