How the fuck is Iceman an Omega Level mutant and Magneto isn't?

How the fuck is Iceman an Omega Level mutant and Magneto isn't?

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The power of gay.

He's gay.

It's really hard to kill Iceman for good if the atmosphere isn't dry. In theory, if a guy can catch Magneto with his shields down and wielding the right weapons, it takes just one shot...

He can theoretically bring the laws of thermodynamics to a screeching halt if he wanted, or something to that effect.

Because Magneto's powers don't increase the universe's entropy.

power levels are stupid

hell a fucking bow would do the trick if he weren't looking

then why is iceman such a fucking jobber in the movies?

Because it's a vague descriptor originally made to sound cool and intimidating.
At the end of the day, Bobby makes the list because with enough powercreep he can basically become an immortal being that controls thermodynamics of any matter capable of passing from a solid to liquid state, himself being a part of that.

Magneto can become the most powerful magnet ever, but at the base of it he can only be a meat man.

Because it's 1. The fucking movies in which he's still a student none the less 2. his theoretical ultimate destination he's only really come near it when they're applying plot devices.

That's how he's been since his creation.

I thought Magneto and Prof X were both Omega Level.

Iceman can make infinite copies of himself that can all think for themselves and freeze your blood solid. Almost anything Magneto can do a regular telekinetic can do better.

Because he hadn't even developed his ice form until the end of the third movie.

There are very few Omega level. Off the top of my head I can only think of Legion, Iceman, Phoenix, and Cable. I'm sure there have been more but just because someone is good at being psychic doesn't make you Omega, you have to be so fundamentally OP that you can't even imagine it. Like Flash would be Omega level if he was a mutant with the same skill set.

Omega level telepath isn't the same as Omega level mutant. It's more like "black belt at telepathy"

Magneto isn't an Omega Level mutant, but he is in the highest tier of Alpha mutants, like Storm.

Omega level mutants tend to be reality manipulators, people who can destroy life on earth by themselves without the help of anyone, just from their powers.
Iceman could cause something worse than an Ice Age. Xorn could destroy the solar system with his black hole, and Earth just in a few minutes, Elixir could resurrect the 16 million dead mutants of Genosha, and because he needs to keep a balance, kill or mortally sicken other 16 million people.
Legion or Jamie Braddock can change reality.

And why is he forced to be gay wtf is that bullshit

Fuck off.

answer the question

He can freeze the entire planet. Capable of destroying the entire world. That's why.

because Bendis wrote a boring bad run that was pure pointless filler and wasted a great setup, but still wanted to leave his mark on the X-Men.

ok you win

cable isn't omega level

my cable lore is a little rusty. But i remembered him having the potential for it if he didn't have to constantly fight off the virus he was infected with.

that's why magneto is so cool, he's top alpha at best but he's extremely skilled with his powers

Remember when Iceman got thrown into an oven? Good times.

Current list of Omega Level Mutants are

> Jean Grey
> Iceman
> Cable
> X-Man
> Stryfe
> Hope Summers
> Rachel Grey
> Vulcan
> Quentin Quire
> Legion
> Mr. M
> Elixir
> Franklin Richards

>Legion
Isn't he erased from existence? Or did secret wars bring him back

>Uses the term jobber
>Cares about comic book movies

He just had a new #1 last week.

Because Magneto was given poorly defined limits to his powers while Iceman was constantly wanked into pulling bs out of his ass because he is the writers favorite pet character. Among all the X-men, only Iceman, Jean Grey and Gambit receive a massive power wanking. Granted Gambit lost his power wanking.

>Cable
>X-Man
Demolish power levels from overuse of their powers or injuries that they sustained.

>Vulcan
>Mr. M
>Elixir
Dead.

Who in the comics decides what qualifies as "omega level." Is it the x-men? The government?

Whoever is the writers favorite pet character because of the writer's massive wanking. Emma Frost was considered as a decent telepath but is suddenly considered an omega level telepath once she joined the X-men. Gambit could only make stuff explode but was once given the ability to control all kinetic energy and thus Superman powers, time travel, dimensional travel and killing you just by staring at you. Iceman the snowman with snowballs to Iceman the physical incarnation of Fimbulwinter. Jean Grey and the Phoenix Force shit. Vulcan the original Marvel Triumph being considered being Beyond Omega level when Omega level already represented seemingly limitless potential. Quicksilver near Flash-like speed boost over the years. Colossus the metal Luke Cage reaching 100 ton tier in terms of strength. Havok being capable of absorbing a physical star. Classical X-men bs via massive wanking.

How is the recent X-Men?

Any good mutant stories lately?

Eh, iceman's powerset is stated to have omega level potential, which manifests in future versions with greatly enhanced powers bordering on ice god thermodynamic entropy control.

I don't see why you couldn't stretch magneto's powers the same way and make a case for it. Say in terms of how the electromagnetic force relates to the composition of all physical matter and in addition apply magneto's power to the electromagnetic spectrum of photons, which gives you light/radiation based powers. If you wanted to go crazy, you could basically make him a mutant version of molecule man, which would definitely qualify as omega level.

>Magneto isn't?
Didn't Magneto lift a truck and got tired lately? But anyway Omega Mutant label is just some memery from the writers. For fuck's sake they had Psylocke as Omega mutant, she's neither the most powerful telepath by far, nor the strongest most athletic physical specimen. She's just a white girl wearing yellowface eye candy psychic asian ninja and they confirmed her as omega level

Magneto's powers are tied to his physique, He gets weaker with age because it becomes more physically taxing for him when he uses his powers.

"When everyone is an omega level mutant, no one will be"

Arent Franklin and Mr. M above Onega and universal threats?

Stay mad Magnetofag. Psylocke beat him fair and square.

>He gets weaker with age because it becomes more physically taxing for him when he uses his powers.
How is he aging while the other 90s adult X-Men like Rogue, Psylocke, Beast, etc hasn't aged a day since the Claremont era. Jubilee is still a teenager

Omega Level Mutant is a meaningless title at this point given all the Omega Level Mutant Bargain Sale that has been going on over the years. Just recently, they introduce an Omega Level Mutant that they claimed was more powerful than Franklin Richards in an X-book despite lacking the feats of Franklin Richards. Another immortal mutant that possess Superman powers, time manipulation, Magneto powers, Xavier-level telepath, Molecule Man powers and is an energy being.

>Magneto's powers are tied to his writer
Fixed that for you. He's as strong as the story needs him to be.

The way he threaten earth back in the 90s, he could've just drop an asteroid to the whole inhuman city during the Inhuman vs. X-Men conflict

Apparently, Storm is one too, but not really.

>he doesn't have floor-length sparkly purple hair
Shit omega, would pair with Kitty Pryde.

He's barely understanding his powers in 1 and 2. 3 is when you see him finally start a power creep.

The fuck?

I need to know more about this mary sue.

How is Magneto not Omega? He could take down a good chunk of names on that list.

SAD. Poor Psylocke

Living and breathing increases entropy.

Jean Grey never stays dead. And majority of her Omega Level status comes from the Phoenix.

Impossible for Magneto to kill Iceman.

Cable and X-man are more or less equal in power. Cable in his prime fought Silver Surfer and destroyed his board while using a portion of his powers to levitate his flying island country and protecting its inhabitants. X-man in his prime fought a Superman analog but got fucked by Ares's magic axe.

Stryfe might die since he doesn't appear to be as powerful as Prime Cable and X-man. He is also wearing a suit of metal.

Hope Summers can copy your powers and acquire an enhanced version of it.

Vulcan withstood Blackbolt's scream.

Quentin Quire is an energy being made of physic energy.

Legion is Legion.

Mr. M is basically mutant Molecule Man.

Elixir could potentially give himself any power if he wanted to.

Franklin Richards is Franklin Richards.

omega level powers doesn't really mean omega level fighter. mags is badass as fuck because on how creative and skilled he is with his powers

Maybe it's one of those thimgs where you have your regular power level and then your uber power level to choose from but nothing in between

Omega is a description of their mutation, not them. It's not about what they can with their powers, but how much their power can do, how far off they are from a normal human.
Magneto's one of the most dangerous men alive, but all he does is manipulate a stronger version of a force that normal humans already have a minuscule version of. Iceman is a free-floating consciousness that removes energy from existence.

How is Apocalypse not Omega level?

On his own he can control every molecule of his body and that's not including the Celestial tech enhancement powers.

Socialist SJW pandering. Come on you browse Sup Forums but you can't answer a simple question like that?

Opera is guest writing the xmen and she's giving out omega level status to the whole audience: "You're an omega level mutant! and you're an omega level mutant! Everyone is an omega level mutant!!!"

>oprah

In Avengers Initiative it was shown that there is a government agency called the National Security Counsel that determines threat level of mutants. They originally assigned Trauma as Omega Level but after he lost to the Hulk he was downgraded to class 50 which is basically mainstream alpha level.

His original powers are just longevity, shapeshifting and optic blasts. Without the Celestial tech enhancing himself, he would just be a slightly more powerful Mystique with an optic blast.

He came back in Uncanny X-Men annual and helped save Magneto in the last Uncanny X-Men issue of the newest series.

I thought the optic blast was Celestial tech.

Is the sizechanging and turning his body into weapons Celestial tech or his own power?

honestly

Electromagnetism is one of the fundamental forces of the universe, and the second strongest. If he's strong enough to overpower atomic bonds and rip the iron out of a dude's blood, he should be unstoppable.

To be fair, Magneto is actually tapping into one of the 4 fundamental forces with his powers and theoretically could do some really crazy shit if they looked more into that. But the science for that is a bit esoteric to expect from the average writer.

Truth. Magneto could be molecule man tier.

Wouldn't Scott be on the list, as he can Final Flash the whole planet?

Do any mutant control the strong and weak nuclear force? They would be broken.

I think he pulled a fucking wormhole once

Is the punch dimension really omega-tier?

It is a whole dimension of unlimited power. All Scott has to do is just stare at you and think I want to blast you and the earth into the sun.

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Magneto hasn't been electromagnetism spectrum man since forever though.

He's now depicted as old and weak, got BTFO by Psylocke especially since he busted his nut on his solo series trying to prevent some interplanetary collision. His powerlevel hasn't been the same ever since.

Even more, since the influence of the X-Men movie where Gandalf cannot do energy beam/projectile, the Marvel writers have been depicting Magneto in the last however many years without ability to shoot lighting beam/energy projectile at people

I'm just always happy to post Uncanny X-Force pages.

>DESTRUCTIVE FINISH

Bullshit if that was true Bobby would adopt a black kid.

>movies

That's not how the song goes

Yeah, but it's pretty one note. How can his powers grow/evolve?

By busting solar systems

Is that by opening his eyes wider or something?

He did. Maybe more than once, not sure.

Jean rewired his brain.

He spreads the ghey

>Among all the X-men, only Iceman, Jean Grey and Gambit receive a massive power wanking.
Has a more false statement ever been made?

Is Squirrel Girl an Omega Level Mutant?

Shouldn't Havok be the same then? He can absorb sunlight/stars and dish out massive power?

Jubilee is supposed to be in her 20s now, and she at least has a decent excuse to be in her 20s forever.

>he doesn't read WWE Boom!

Other than the meaningless 'omega level telepath' title, wasn't an omega level mutant supposed to be required to be able to exert their power on a universe-altering level? Like that was the definition, I thought.

Bendis didn't want that Iceman fuck his comic jewfu, so he did that