We right wingers believe in freedom!

>we right wingers believe in freedom!

but...

>the government should decide who is able to get married to who, and the government should forcibly divorce millions of gay couples
>the government should decide if a woman has a baby or not
>the government should decide what a responsible adult can consume in the privacy of their own home (cannabis).
>the government should make schools host daily prayer, and non Christians should be forced to participate
>companies shouldnt be allowed to market themselves as non-religious (for example, starbucks shouldnt be allowed to have holiday cups, they need to be christmas cups)
>workers should have their wages lowered and be forced to live in cycles of poverty. Income inequality is the worst it has ever been in history (worse than in 1929) and thats fine.
>unless you are fortunate enough to be born into the top 10%, healthcare should be unnecessarily expensive so that companies can make unheard of profits. Doesnt matter if millions cant afford and millions go broke paying for treatment that is free in other 1st world countries.
>there should be no assistance for people who cant afford college. People should be trapped into a cycle of poverty and the only people who should be able to live the american dream are people who are born wealthy
i could go on forever. Right wingers are literally the dumbest sacks of shit ever.


It is no wonder that the highly educated are liberal.

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nice b8 m8

everything I said is what a vast majority of right wingers believe

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>Educated are usually highly liberal
>Self taught are mostly conservative

Totally makes the head burn

I think there's a difference between right wingers and anarchists OP

>Not understanding what right-wing even is, makes me smugly superior

Nice try. Add sage to every meal.

Marriage is a priviledged position with special benefits created to subsidize families because they are the best known social structure for healthy human development.

Im ok with letting homosexuals marry if its with the purpose of creating a family. Im also ok with making it harder for straight couples who are not interested in having kids (or adopting) to get married.

Everything you said is what you believe the vast majority of right wingers believe. Sure, there's people who believe this, but to be so fucking ignorant to think that a vast majority of right wingers believes this, that's the most 12 year old, fucking spastic imbecile thought anyone has ever had.

>Hi I'm a liberal and have no actual concept of what conservatives really believe
>But you're all totally stupid! My strawman proves it

I hope you know that the only reason youre opposed to gay marriage is because you just dont like gays. Gays make you uncomfortable. Youre basically a bigot. Youre just trying to justify it.


>durr I should decide arbitrarily what marriage should be and who gets married.

Weird, so you dont think people who dont want kids should be able to get married?


You probably dont believe that but just throw it out there so you can claim youre not a homophobe

I'm fine with gay marriage, in fact I'm going to be a groomsmen in a gay dude's wedding here in a few months.

Have all the abortions you want, i think it's a terrible form of "birth control", but if you can live with it on your conscience, go nuts, I'm not for or against it

I'm pro legalization of Marijuana, literally hurts nobody and is safer than thr booze i drink every weekend

I'm an atheist, starbucks sucks, but but a swastika on your cups for all i care

Blah blah blah blah blah

Fuck your bait thread.

.....so youre a libertarian congrats.

Typical lying leftist inverting everything and trying to put it off on other people. Turn everything upside down. No one cares.

who /ancap/ here?

>we right wingers believe in freedom!
Libertarian/Authoritarian is a separate axis from Left/Right you imbecile, it just happens that Left-Libertarianism doesn't exist, so all Libertarians are necessarily centrist or right-wing.

>everything I said is what a vast majority of right wingers believe

left libertarians exist.

t. libertarian socialist

disprove me?

>recognition, not bans. Government has no legitimacy to being in marriage right now anyway
>stopping murder is one of the most basic duties of a government
>cannabis is barely a partisan issue
>forced religion isn't a thing
>forced religion isn't a thing
>cycles of poverty is a product of welfare. Wages will disappear rather than be lowered
>confuses insurance and healthcare as rights. Associated costs and regulation will destroy the value and speed of the industry. """Free"""
>devaluing the college degree will help people climb out of poverty. Wasting money and the prime of people's lives to such a massive waste of time is good for anybody but the universities pocket

yeah i like politics too

False premise.

>the government should decide if a woman has a baby or not

>it's perfectly okay for the government to put men in prison for not financially supporting child he didn't want

This is the hypocrisy of the left.

That's an actual oxymoron cunt

>left wingers think the government should decide that a responsible adult no longer needs his god-Given rights when convenient to their agenda
t. Bill of Rights

THICC

DO NOT legalize weed. Decriminalize it. You fuck'n cucks have no idea what big corp will do to weed when they can legally molest it. The Government has patents for it. Do you think that Bayer/Monsanto wont fuck you over given the chance?
>Think Critically here.

its called a spectrum
you are on this one --> dealwithautism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/DSM-5-Autism-Spectrum-Disorder-1.png

What about me? I oppose gay marriage and I'm gay.
Civil partnerships are enough and I would fully call my relationship a "marriage" without needing the emotional crutch of it legally having that name.
I think it's an idiotic idea pushed by left-wing retards to deliberately sabotage the institution of marriage.

TL:DR: you're an idiot and assuming you know better than people who are actually the minorities you pretend to represent.

>abortion is murder

So if decided to attach myself to you like a parasite to feed off you and would die if removed, and you removed me and I died, you would have murdered me.


It is my body, I can chose not to feed you with it.

nope, you're just uniformed about left liberrarians.

>abortion
>murder

Stopped reading there. It's a clump of cells, not a fucking person.

Then don't fuck every nigger you can find.
Your rights stop where others' rights begin.

>if i walk head first into a lake filled with leaches its not my fault i get covered in them

end yourself

If that parasite was actually a human being, then yes.

And since an embryo is a human being, yes, it's murder.

Now, if people could stop being retarded for 5 minutes and figure out embryonic transplants, there would be no need to murder embryos, and people who are childless would finally have children, but that would actually require some effort.

>gays are really married

Hahahahahahaha

That's a seperate argument

From the conservative perspective it is murder. Assuming it is murder, it's proper for government to interfere

Maybe don't argue in pure hyperbole and get to the issue?

Oh wait you're a leftist and you're incapable of having honest discourse

>My ideology revolves around restricting property rights
>I'm a Libertarian!
Just because you can write the words "a square circle" doesn't mean that square circles exist.

Are embryonic transplants prohibited?

See

>What about me? I oppose gay marriage and I'm gay.

>the government should decide who is able to get married to who, and the government should forcibly divorce millions of gay couples

It is more of a religious issue. Marriage has always been a religious thing and churches should retain the right to not marry gays tbqh familam.

>the government should decide if a woman has a baby or not

It is more like allowing the government deciding if a woman can decide to murder people or not.

>the government should decide what a responsible adult can consume in the privacy of their own home (cannabis).

Nah.

>the government should make schools host daily prayer, and non Christians should be forced to participate

This isn't the enitre right.

>companies shouldnt be allowed to market themselves as non-religious (for example, starbucks shouldnt be allowed to have holiday cups, they need to be christmas cups)

I think you are just making shit up now.

>workers should have their wages lowered and be forced to live in cycles of poverty. Income inequality is the worst it has ever been in history (worse than in 1929) and thats fine.

Raising minimum wage means less jobs.

>unless you are fortunate enough to be born into the top 10%, healthcare should be unnecessarily expensive so that companies can make unheard of profits. Doesnt matter if millions cant afford and millions go broke paying for treatment that is free in other 1st world countries.

More like the right wants to have the choice of paying for healthcare or not.

>there should be no assistance for people who cant afford college. People should be trapped into a cycle of poverty and the only people who should be able to live the american dream are people who are born wealthy

Your post is filled with this typical shit that takes everything to the extreme and not even considering why someone may believe in such a thing. I am not even on the right (more of a moderate), but damn your willing ignorance explains why so many liberals are so stupid.

replace the government with "the state" then

Income inequality is an Obama issue bitch. He had 8 years and made it worse while also fucking me with 27% tax rate.

>free healthcare will destroy the industry

Expect that is objectively fase. Single payer is objectively better.


It costs way less per person (yes you pay more taxes but you save boatloads by having no premiums). Everyone is covered. It costs less because everyone is covered, that is the nature of insurance.

This is why places like france or germany spend less money, cover everyone and have better results.


this is why costa rica has better healthcare than the US, despite being waaaay poorer. This is why the US is ranked 37 in healthcare, despite being the richest country in history.

>thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
but youre not interested in facts are you? :)

You literally spout propaganda of the health insurance industry for free.


Theyre making obsecene profits at the expense of the people. Youre spouting their propaganda for free. fucking cuck

Not logically they don't

you are a clump of cells retard

>right wingers
>libertarians
>classical liberals

Not the same thing. Looks like OP is uneducated.

I don't smoke weed. So yeah, i don't really care. But i tend to agree with you.

Conservatives are temporarily embarrassed millionaires

Youre what we call an uncle tom. You support policies against your own interests to try and appeal to people who despise you.


There is literally no argument against gay marriage. Gays getting married don't affect you or anyone at all.

>we
No, WE, obviously not YOU
Saged fag lover thread

I believe we have the right to have a society not filled with degenerate filth and niggers.

its not a human. by your logic, masturbation is mass murder.


A human is not human until they are born.


This is why you calculate your age from the day you were born. Not the day you were born plus 9 months

That's it. Cannibalise. We'll welcome the "Uncle Toms" and you'll become even more of a minority.

There would still be far more unwanted embryos than people who want embryos :/

Not as far as I know. Medical research on embryos is partly restricted in the US, but not in the rest of the world.

One of plenty. Fuck off leaf, not everyone is a retard like you weak fags in north america, always needing a big, strong government to protect you from the big strong government.

>Youre what we call an uncle tom. You support policies against your own interests to try and appeal to people who despise you.

"My own interests" - how exactly does gay marriage serve my interests? It alienates the people who I want to see me as just another person, it gives me fuck-all rights I don't get from a civil relationship, and worst of all, it's a favourite drum of left wing retards like you, enabling even MORE government overreach into my life.
Mind your own business, you fascist cunt.

Libertarian right /= authoritarian right

History proves freedom only works for whites. Sorry faggot. Prepare to get gassed.

It is murder though

>the government should decide who is able to get married to who, and the government should forcibly divorce millions of gay couples
Tax implications and tax fraud possibilities
>the government should decide if a woman has a baby or not
It's a question of murder and / or loss of life.
>the government should decide what a responsible adult can consume in the privacy of their own home (cannabis)
Protection from self-harm.
>the government should make schools host daily prayer, and non Christians should be forced to participate
Allowed to have daily prayers for religion-heavy regions, which are mostly Christians.
>companies shouldnt be allowed to market themselves as non-religious (for example, starbucks shouldnt be allowed to have holiday cups, they need to be christmas cups)
That's completely retarded and unfounded.
>workers should have their wages lowered and be forced to live in cycles of poverty. Income inequality is the worst it has ever been in history (worse than in 1929) and thats fine.
More money doesn't equal more purchasing power, it only helps to accelerate the inflation rate of the currency
>unless you are fortunate enough to be born into the top 10%, healthcare should be unnecessarily expensive so that companies can make unheard of profits..
State-specific insurance creates mini-monopolies in each states, which causes price to go up. Removing that border would lower costs across the board because of the nature of market competition
>there should be no assistance for people who cant afford college. People should be trapped into a cycle of poverty and the only people who should be able to live the american dream are people who are born wealthy
You don't need to go to college to live the american dream. It's called a trade. More-so, assistance to everyone will only work to raise education costs and balloon loan amounts, as the current US situation.

>left
>right
Hi newfriend.
sage

Sperm is not human

To explain it to simpletons like you
Sperm + Egg=Human

because they're so much better than left wing liberal fucktards?

1- fag marriage is a farce. its not a freedom or a right.
2- killing a baby isnt a freedom or a right
3- that one i agree
4- nice meme
5- no one said that
6- notice that the US never had that many gibsmedat programs and yet inequality is at its highest. im sure we're one regulation away from solving this!!!!! go learn economist you worthless rat.
7- doctor dont owe you health
8- no one says that

1/8. good job

No, there shouldn't be any laws about marriage at all, it does nothing give women an incentive to destroy their family for alimony.

>by your logic, masturbation is mass murder.
Semen does not contain the complete genetic code of a human, but nice try.
>A human is not human until they are born.
Says you and biologically illiterate retards like you only.
>This is why you calculate your age from the day you were born.
False analogy, we do that because we can know for certain when a person is born, but not necessarily when they were conceived. Can you even into biology?

We can freeze embryos if they are removed quickly enough. Besides, people really should use birth control, ffs.

...

>it costs way less
>France does it better
>objectively better
The reason US healthcare is shit in statistics bears out when you seperate out blacks

And that goes for most statistical comparisons.

Actual real life examples are far different.

I can go get an MRI done tomorrow

>single payer is objectively better
Oh yeah I'm sure that disconnect between not paying for something and using it freely presents no tragedy of the Commons issues at all

>insurance
It isnt insurance, it's cost shifting

Insurance for individuals fundamentally doesn't work on the societal level, it isn't insurance if it isn't [individuals] insuring against the future.

What it is instead is cost shifting. Because the costs of [injuries] are covered immediately by the current year's tax base. There is no future being protected against, the costs are created and covered at the same time

economics*

Here's some money to buy a helmet and some better bait!

>calls me a fascist

are you literally retarded? seriously.


Fascism is a right wing ideology.


>allowing gays to get married if they want is government overreach

are you fucking retarded? Seriously this must be bait. How on earth is the government staying out of peoples marriages and bedrooms government overreach.


It is the opposite. It is the government saying 'grown adults can decide for themselves who they marry. We will stay out of the decisions of grown adults'


That is overreach? You are literally the dumbest piece of scum ever.

liberal tears sure are delicious

True, but i sure the fuck didn't want Hilldog to become our president.

All true. Weak and stupid people need a strong hand to guide them. They hate everything they can't understand. But understand they only what they're told to understand.

>facism is right wing
Only in the relativist left-right dichotomy pushed by leftists to distance themselves from hitler

More vs. Less government interference is the real left vs. Right

>sjw fascists who want more government control are right wing
What a joke

>other people should be responsible for your own liberty
What a cuckish thing to say

So if those transplants aren't prohibited, what's the issue?

who decides what is a human? You?


Can a clump of cells think, talk, feel, hear, or do anything human?
The body often will produce fertilized eggs after sex that simply do not make it and women dont even know they were pregnant.

So they just committed murder?

strawman: the post

Not listening to your argument

More interested in the pic.

>there are people on this board right now, who support late- and mid term abortions on non terminally ill children

>we right wingers believe in freedom!

[citation needed]

Jokes on you m8 I'm a fascist

>More vs. Less government interference is the real left vs. Right

Americans actually believe this.

The government doesn't decide who can get married it decides who gets a marriage certificate
Gays could always have a ceremony

>bbbbut it's not the same is big daddy government gives me a piece of paper waahhhhhh

Also abortion is murder

>Fascism is a right wing ideology.
Only if you're a Communist, because it's a left-wing ideology that is less to the left than communism.

Imbecile.

>How on earth is the government staying out of peoples marriages and bedrooms government overreach.

Ah, but it ISN'T staying out of it. It's saying "I approve and allow what you are doing", just like with straights. I want it to fuck off completely.
Having them give me a pat on the head and a piece of paper to allow me to live with my partner isn't the government staying out of my decisions, it's me begging for permission, which can be revoked with a single piece of legislation.

>a clump of cells
>a child two weeks before birth

>>workers should have their wages lowered and be forced to live in cycles of poverty. Income inequality is the worst it has ever been in history (worse than in 1929) and thats fine.
>>unless you are fortunate enough to be born into the top 10%, healthcare should be unnecessarily expensive so that companies can make unheard of profits. Doesnt matter if millions cant afford and millions go broke paying for treatment that is free in other 1st world countries.
>>there should be no assistance for people who cant afford college. People should be trapped into a cycle of poverty and the only people who should be able to live the american dream are people who are born wealthy

What have any of these got to do with freedom? Freedom means to be free, not to get free shit.

Postnatal abortion too if they're abominations of nature :^)

> should decide who is able to get married to who
Married? What is married? Something to do with some institution i guess.
> companies shouldnt be allowed to market themselves as non-religious
Who forced that one??
I agree with the principle but your all over the place.

But I don't agree with any of that.

I just don't agree with liberals either.

its really amazing how weak and unpolished leftist arguments are

>believing in freedom means you believe everyone is free to do whatever he wants
That's wrong you retard. Guess what, most people also oppose indiscriminate murder. That doesn't mean that they don't believe in freedom.

>those juicy lats

>the government should decide who is able to get married to who, and the government should forcibly divorce millions of gay couples
States right
>the government should decide if a woman has a baby or not
A woman decides whether she will have a baby or not when she lets penis enter her vagina.
inb4 but theres rape and stuff and its a woman's RIGHT
shut up faggot
>the government should decide what a responsible adult can consume in the privacy of their own home (cannabis).
"I do it in my own home so it should be legal"
>the government should make schools host daily prayer, and non Christians should be forced to participate
Schools used to have daily prayer. It's the government that banned it and forced them to stop
>companies shouldnt be allowed to market themselves as non-religious (for example, starbucks shouldnt be allowed to have holiday cups, they need to be christmas cups)
Literally what? Starbucks is a godless abortionist jew cult - I don't expect them to sell le cute xmas cups
>workers should have their wages lowered and be forced to live in cycles of poverty. Income inequality is the worst it has ever been in history (worse than in 1929) and thats fine.
Again, what? Just because someone doesn't think the State should forcibly redistribute wealth doesn't mean that they're pro-wealth inequality
>unless you are fortunate enough to be born into the top 10%, healthcare should be unnecessarily expensive so that companies can make unheard of profits. Doesnt matter if millions cant afford and millions go broke paying for treatment that is free in other 1st world countries.
Again, demanding that the Government (State) fix all of society's problems is never going to end well
>there should be no assistance for people who cant afford college. People should be trapped into a cycle of poverty and the only people who should be able to live the american dream are people who are born wealthy
.....Get out of your echo chamber more often

You're welcome

>abominations of nature
fall under terminally ill
we need a few downies to play in serials like Game of Thrones

Please abort yourself.

I disagree with pretty much all of this and I'm right wing

lol you guys always manage to bring it back to racism.

>When you ignore all the poor (a lot of them black) people who cant afford coverage, our healthcare looks better
>when you ignore the bad statistics resulting from this system, it looks better!


yeah no shit.

Quit making these hypothetical arguments. Single payer is OBJECTIVELY better proven out by facts.


It is being done all over the world.


France
>spend significantly less on healthcare per capita
>everyone is covered
>better results (healthier population, higher life spans)


Youre literally just doing what they health care industry pays billions to our leaders to do, protect their profit. Youre doing it for free.