>>98617419

You feel threatened or what?

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Moldova as well.

>Why is no one talking about this?

Because they are two irrelevant countries.

ama

When are the russians going to invade us and end this SJW bullshit

>Bulgarian President-elect
Studied in the US, NATO General, non-affiliatied with any party, his VP is 2 term MEP from PES

We are Russia now, guys!

These are literally the two shittiest countries in EU. Worse than fucking Lithuania.

Good riddance. More EU money for us.

With Trump

you're just mad cuz we're going to lift sanctions

>Studied in the US, NATO General, non-affiliatied with any party, his VP is 2 term MEP from PES

Welp, so much for the pro-Russia thing.

Mpaзиш в oчкo cвoe ты влaзишь?

I was waiting all the time for news articles to appear on this topic. Thanks for posting.
Very interesting what happened there, even though these countries are rather unimportant in the big picture of the EU. But every little bit helps.

I just want to point out that the vote for Radev was not in any case pro-Russia vote. He showed a more moderate stance towards Russia during the presidential debates, yes, but lets see the facts - half of the right (or as you would call it liberal) party electorate (the pro-EU, pro-US, hard anti-Russian folks) voted for Radev. Almost 20% of GERB (the ruling pro-EU party) electorate decided to vote for Radev over their own candidate that has lost. The Bulgarian-Turkish population together with the party of "United patriots" decided to vote Radev!

This was a protest vote against the ruling party because of their unwillingness or inability, or both, to solve some pressing problems like corruption, reform in the judicial system etc.

The genuine pro-Russian folks that voted for Radev are actually like half of the people who voted for him (if not less).

As if these shitholes buy or produce anything in the first place. At least we have our canned fish.

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Why do Bulgarians act like niggers?
>Beats up Gypsie
>"worlstaaaaaah"

The fuck is this supposed to mean???

I came here just to mention this. Congrats to the Bulgarbros on electing an anti-migrant anti-EU pres.

Keep it up. I want to see Bulgaria become a great and wealthy nation.

now just fuck up the corrupt scum.

it seems they always blame their political opponents in working for Russia, just like Hillary Clinton.

Literal translation would be "mrazish do get into your asshole" haha, but that's actually some misheard lyrics from the mrazish song

>they
only the western media, the pro-eu party (gerb) and russian media have said radev is pro-russian

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You guys know Azis?

His song s been a huge meme in russia in 2011

he owns property there and has a large fanbase
mostly they just make jokes about him
youtube.com/watch?v=95Kr496fdnI

Radev is not Pro-Russian, that's just a meme every single Western Media outlet is pushing in order to propagate the idea that the Russians are coming.

Dodon, on the other hand, is heavily pro-russian. His campaign focus has mainly been to legitimize Crimeea as a Russian territory (whilst having Transnistria on his own Moldovan territory - double standards much), to shift Moldova's focus from EU/Romania to Russia, to change the constitution YET AGAIN and make Moldovan as the official language of Moldova (notice the distinction between Moldovan and Romanian - this is a soviet tactic used ever since 1947, to make the Moldovans feel like they do not have a Romanian identity), and to virtuously oppose any idea of an unification between Romania and Moldova.

tl;dr Dodon is a madman that will shift Moldova's destiny towards Russia yet again.

>mfw our intelligence services are so shit they couldn't prevent the election of a pro-russian shill in a country that has a huge pro-union pro-romanian movement
>mfw we had huge demonstrations in Bucharest and Chisinau a month ago, asking for the unification of Romania and Moldova, but our politicians are too shit to actually do something

Now Moldova is yet again back in the '90, with no prospect of an EU integration or Romanian integration.

Fuck.our.politicians.

So anyone who doesnt want to start a war with us is concidered pro-russian now?
I guess in the 2030ies western politicians who do not foam their moth ferverishly cursing us on tv and calling to exterminate everything russian in the world will be concidered pro-russian too
Well if there will still be west around by this time ofc

wew

>Now Moldova is yet again back in the '90, with no prospect of an EU integration or Romanian integration.
As if it had any.

really? I only heard that from our media about Moldavian president because he promised to conduct his first visit to Moscow. Bulgarian election wasn't covered in the news for the most part(i read ria news only)

putin congratulated him
i dont think obama has

Is he at least anti-migrant and anti-EU?

Anti-migrants yes, anti-EU...I think any politician in Bulgaria who takes such an honest stance, will never get elected. Even the far-right patriots are taking it easy on the EU rhetoric, because they know the majority of Bulgarians like the EU. They bash NATO a lot tho.

>anti-EU
not really
>anti-migrant
wants them in closed camps and outside of populated areas
in the debates he was against the "fixing the demographic problem by resettling refugees to areas with old people"

he's supported by the former communist party, so he has to be at least partly "socialist"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobic_incidents#Bulgaria

>As if it had any.

The pro-union movement in Moldova has been growing exponentially in the last couple of years, mainly due to our former President Basescu being heavily pro-union (and him giving hundreds of thousands of Moldovans a Romanian passport during his terms).

But you wouldn't hear about these kinds of things in your country, Ivan. After all, you're congratulating the president-elect of Moldova, whilst having troops illegally stationed on Moldovan territory - Transnistria. That's how the Russian paradigm works, double standards all the way.

>inb4 Dodon was elected by people from Transnistria that were brought to the polls by pro-russian Moldovans
>inb4 those Transnistrian citizens do not even have the right to vote in Moldova, seeing as they have their own illegitimate Government and President

Death couldn't come earlier for ya all.

>moldova
>bulgaria

who fucking cares?

>Moldova
>Bulgaria
>relevant

>who fucking cares

NATO cares, you prick. You now have a fragmented Eastern and Central Europe, with only Romania and Poland as regional powers that are still heavily pro-US and pro-EU.

>pic related, current situation in the Balkan area (red is socialist)

I'm not even saying being pro-EU is good at this point, but seeing the situation developing as it is, Poland and Romania will soon be completely encircled.

It's all about geopolitics, and we're kinda seeing, at this point, the complete fragmentation of the European Union.

greece is also red

>NATO
I doubt that America cares about your shitholes

I'm sad that Moldova is moving away from us.

But whatever, let them suck Russian dick.

They chose this fate.

>The pro-union movement in Moldova has been growing exponentially in the last couple of years
Oh yeah? Then how come anti-EU candidate won?
You're fucking delusional.
EU trade association and pro-EU elites have led the country only to ruin.

meant for

>Pro National > Pro Russia > Pro EU

Yep, and the main power projector in these area, Turkey, has been slowly shifting towards Russia ever since the coup.

The NATO Naval Task Force proposal has already been rejected by Bulgaria and Turkey is slowly starting to disappear in terms of power projection in the Black Sea area.

>I doubt that America cares about your shitholes

Yea, I guess having the AEGIS shield in this country, plus a multinational task-force, plus a central NATO Command center, plus a NATO air force base and a couple of nukes makes us pretty irelevant to the US.

I swear to god, some of you Russians are so stupid you'd have a better change of teaching an autist about geopolitics.

>Oh yeah? Then how come anti-EU candidate won?

Mainly because the former pro-EU government, that had ties with multiple russian oligarchs (like Plahotniuc - a guy that literally controlled all of the Moldovan media) stole close to 1 billion $ from the Moldovan treasury. You couple that with the austerity that has been present in the Moldovan territory ever since Voronin, and the multiple cases of fraud at the polling stations et voila - you now have a pro-russian puppet that leads the country.

Instead of calling me delusional, you'd better take a book and read a bit about Moldova. It's quite easy to understand what happens there, trust me.

>EU trade association and pro-EU elites have led the country only to ruin.

The Eu trade association has brought millions of euros to Moldova, money that are non-refundable. Romania has been investing millions of euros in Moldova, without asking for any money back. The Pro-EU elites, that were actually old oligarchs that nurtured pro-Russian sentiments, whilst stealing the money the EU was giving to Moldova - truly pro-EU.

Our president.

>he didn't crash in the wtc

>disappear in terms of power projection in the Black Sea area.
because they smart and understant the current situation. Crimea allows us to completelly control Black Sea, and coastal rocket systems can project their threat to any ship inside Black sea. Creating a naval task force in Black sea would mean nothing, they would live short minutes if the conflict to start.

turks have complete control over the black sea, they say who gos in and who gets to leave

> Why is no one talking about this?
Why should one talk about irrelevant non-countries?

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>Instead of calling me delusional, you'd better take a book and read a bit about Moldova. It's quite easy to understand what happens there, trust me.
Not going to convince me. Why?
You seriously want me to believe pro-EU movement in Moldova was growing EXPONENTIALLY during the last couple of years while EU is being overrun by rapefugees, slowly eroding from the inside and even starts to desintegrate from outside, while having an example of Ukraine which ruined it's own economy thanks to trade association and overall reliance on IMF loans?
>The Eu trade association has brought millions of euros to Moldova
And do these millions work for the benefit of common people? As far as I know, EU customs basically pushed all local production and bankrupted any industry Moldova had preserved from USSR times, young people left their country - which is exactly what is written here
>globalresearch.ca/false-promises-of-the-european-dream-moldova-and-bulgaria-elect-pro-russian-presidents/5556890

Nice try, shill. Go dream about greater Romania somewhere else.

I'm not even blaming Erdogan for what he's doing, to be honest. The moment the US backed the coup, Turkey was a wild-card on the table.

At this point, I'm waiting for a new treaty between Russia and Turkey regarding nuclear powered ships in the Black Sea. As we all know, Russia is currently not allowed to have any nuclear powered ship in the Black Sea, but that might soon change due tu Turkey's shift.

Check my answer above. Turkey is slowly shifting towards Russia, and the Turkey-American relations are at a highest low.

so so, even when the was a crisis in our relations they wouldn't stop our ships with weapons for Syria. They can stop, but they can't legally enforce it for long without consequences. We can stop delivering gas for them and they will become more cooperative.

this

hope y'all subvert your neighbors

fuck the EU

cypriats seem to be resolving the issue peacefully as well

>Turkey is slowly shifting towards Russia
was this before or after it killed russians, supplied weapons to the rebels, invaded russias ally and started taking clay

Presidents generally dont have much powers in europe

>We can stop delivering gas for them and they will become more cooperative.
financially you cant, as long as gas prices remain so low you dont hold that card anymore

>pro-EU movement in Moldova was growing EXPONENTIALLY during the last couple of years while EU is being overrun by rapefugees

Wrong, the pro-Eu movement has been completely destroyed by certain oligarchs that ran their platforms as Pro-EU, whilst being fully pro-russian - see Plahotniuc, Usati, Dodon -

It wasn't the Pro-EU movement that was growing, it was the pro-unification movement, both in Romania and in Moldova. Why? Because the Moldovan diaspora is heavily pro-Romanian and because most of the Moldovan students that have been given Romanian passports have returned to Moldova in the meanwhile, pushing for the unification of Moldova and Romania.

>while having an example of Ukraine which ruined it's own economy thanks to trade association and overall reliance on IMF loans?

I'm actually agreeing with you here. Yet again, i'm not stating EU is a good thing, fuck them. They way they've been handling the Eastern European countries has been ridiculous and they should be lined up and shot.

> bankrupted any industry Moldova had preserved from USSR times,

There was no industry in Moldova ever since the 90's, when the neocommies sold to scrap all of it (same thing happened to most of the ex-commie countries, even to Romania).

>And do these millions work for the benefit of common people?

Most of the millions of euros invested in Moldova by Romania at least, have been used only in Educational programs or infrastructure (bridges between the countries, roads that connect the countries etc). The EU money was indeed stolen by those in power, be them Pro-EU or Pro-Russian.

You know, if you actually read in between the lines, you would see that I oppose the idea of EU, at least the form that it has become in the last years.

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blocking bosphorus is a special occasion for Turkey and Russia.

>it killed Russians

This meme again. The Russian plane that was downed by the Turkish Air Force - the orders were given by a Turkish general that was pro-coup, heavily pro-american and pro-NATO. The pilot that shot the rocket was pro-american, pro-NATO. Most if not all of these officers were purged after the coup.

> supplied weapons to the rebels

They have indeed supplied weapons to the turkmeni rebels on the boarder, in order for them to capture as much land as possible. It's called force projection :).

>invaded russias ally and started taking clay

you wot m8? They have entered Syria with Russia and Bashar's permission and they are conducting operations away from Syrian or Russian forces, in order to avoid friendly fire.

The centrist "pro-EU" (read is balancing between kremlin and brussels) resigned as promised if they lose the presidential elections.

>It wasn't the Pro-EU movement that was growing, it was the pro-unification movement
Okay, this I can believe. Be more clear with terminology next time please. I thought you were referencing European union.

I think very few people here on Sup Forums are pro EU.

the topic was political tendencies in Moldovanian society

Also I'd like to point out that Radevs opponent was a women. Not even the burgers were dumb enough to elect a women.

Checked. True, guess I just budged in

NATO BTFO?

Are they even countries?

we should have bought better planes for him to fly, not that junk mig29, unmaintained, almost crashed in the air show in 2014 due to technical failure, etc.
Check his bio, he has flown a lot of western fighter jets, damn shame he has to ride in depricated trash.

Yep, because we see it as it is: a socio-economico-political experiment that has failed to answer the needs of the people. The EU has become nothing less but an overly bureaucratic system that has managed to alienate the very people it has swore to serve.

My bad then. Regarding the EU sentiments, the only country in the Balkan region that is heavily pro-EU and heavily pro-NATO is Romania. Hell, even our socialist parties have adopted centrist-right ideologies over the last years. All of our politicians suck on the EU tit, whilst most of our Nationalistic movements are reprimanded from the start, being labeled as anti-semitic and fascist.

At this point, if a potential war would start, Romania would truly believe that the US and the EU would have our back, going so far as crossing the Prut river once again just to show our muscles. I'm not even joking, we are that delusional.

>inb4 I die in the front lines fighting mother Russia, just as my family has done in WW2.

Geopolitics is way too hard for our politicians, especially when you have to lick some EU ass some more.

ur fucked dimitar

face the facts

How so? Please explain

at least I got a lot of the family lands taken away during comunism back so I got that going for me which is nice.
we are fucked because we cant even fix our judicial system. I am ashamed that an ancient people like ours is completely uncapable to root out corruption and restore law and order. Even fucking gypos to our north are doing better.

Call me naive but we can stir the boat around. And yeah the situation is far from bloomy but not the end of the world. Also lay low on the word ancient or we are the next we wuz meme

>we are fucked because we cant even fix our judicial system

Just import our DNA (Anti-Corruption National Department, part of the Ministry of Justice). We've been jailing most of our corrupt politicians for years already, you should try some.

>DNA
>Romanian version of "Drain the swamp"

EU is doomed anyways. Too many debts

i know, thats why I'm raging so hard, I know it took some german and french judges that didnt wanna get into corruption and also some other help from European countries, we need to reform. The swamp needs draining BIGLY.
but we wuz tri moreta and shiet, this is our meme.
We cant stir it around with BKP back in power, DPS and Dogan will still be the shadow government.
GERB disgust me, ATAKA are bought by rufags, Slavi is bald and blind
I can tolerate the nationalists somewhat.
New party when?

Mig 29 is the greatest plane ever invented. Learn some specifications and you'll see it's ahead of any junk the americans could make in the next 30 years.

we are fucked

Romania and Poland will get buttfucked in the upcoming years.

would you fight a losing battle against russian hordes without trump helping

>russian propaganda
its literally junk, the frame has a 45 year life cycle and it needs to replace its engines every 15 years with 3 major maintenances per engine, its expensive as fuck to maintain.
The only way you can fly this junk is to upgrade its engines with brand new ones that Russia produces only for its own needs and doesnt export so good luck with that. That shit is trash.

Can I use you as a middleman to buy Russian guns? I'd really dig a pp-19.

one thing is sure we will never go back under russia's influence again

It was ironic posting.
But migs they will be. Maybe few base gripens for training purposes just like the helicopters.

>Bulgaria
>NATO country

Romanian people, and I guess Polish people as well, are so heavily anti-Russian, that we would go to war against Russia by ourselves, even if it meant total obliteration.

Hell, our older generation of brainwashed commies (people that were born and raised under the Socialist flag) are slowly but steadily disappearing, leaving way for generations of people that hate the Russians to the guts.

That's way the Russian propaganda hasn't worked at all in Romania or Poland, and that's why Russia hasn't financed any Nationalist movements in both of these countries, at all. You can see this online, as well - most of the Romanians that have internet are heavily Pro-EU and heavily Pro-NATO, whilst calling a shill and a traitor any person that tries to reason with the foreign policy of Putin.

I'm not even joking, most of the people in Romania think that by supporting Trump to the presidency of the US, you are actually supporting Russia and Putin, therefor you are a KGB shill that spreads propaganda in Romania.

You should see the news we're getting every single week, demonizing Putin and the russians in general, calling them third-world citizens and making fun of them, spreading lies that the Russians are pushing for WW3 and whatnot. It's literally war-time propaganda.

>Romania
>Regional power

>Thread full of eastern european flags

Dismissed

t. 1st worlder

> implying i even recognize you
become relevant then you can bully my east euro buddies

>be me
>sperg out
(you)

>globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=romania

Keep on being irelevant, pseudo-Russian. But hey, can't expect for a country that literally sucks on NATO 's tit for survival to understand what a regional power is :).

>inb4 those multinational divisions will never reach you in time when the ruskies invade

>pro ruassian

it is a gen from NATO

>every pol party is pro-eu
>everyone is pro-eu
lies after lies
Do you even live in bulgaria?

Well, shiet. Time to shill in China and USA even more.