The Helen-centric nature of the Incredibles sequel has me thinking about just why somebody interested in restoring the...

The Helen-centric nature of the Incredibles sequel has me thinking about just why somebody interested in restoring the public image of superheroes would pick Elastigirl over Mr. Incredible as their marque figure. Near as I can tell, Mr. Incredible is the Superman equivalent of the Incredibles universe: he had the most impressive powers, he got the best press, and he was incredibly charming. Why pick Helen over him? I guess we'll find out.

Sex appeal. Helen is marketable

Bob Odenkirk probably wants to fuck her Weinstein-style, I know I would...

Mr. Incredible was also involved in a botched suicide scandal, so...

Cause she's female, and female reps these days, as well as her being less property damage.

She’s sassy, but competent; walk the walk/talk the talk. Mr. Incredible was involved with the fall of Supers in the first place. Not the best bet

And a lot of supers from the old icon crew were murdered by Syndrome

And the numerous train related injury lawsuits

Mr. Incredible is the reason supers were banned to begin with. Did you forget the first ten minutes of the original?

>Weinstein
I can't wait for the film that makes a Weinstein character who is just constantly eating, snorting coke, and doing all impulsive things and just growls and grunts, and everyone around him talks like he's a respective figure.

Aku knows why.

That was hardly Bob's fault. It was a witch hunt started by shitty citizens thinking they could earn a buck and it all kind of snowballed from there.

You think that in real life, super strength would be more impressive than shapeshifting? superhuman strength is plausible but no science could explain what stretchy people can do and the public would be all over that shit.

Not to mention, Super Strength is given to 2 out of every 3 superheroes.

That's true but irrelevant.

Something somethig feminazis unga bunga ess jay doublejews ching chong libtards

While true, people don't want to admit they caused problems.

I think the leaks said it was because Bob was too high of a risk for collateral damage.

While Mr. Incredible is much stronger, Elestigirl's powers can cause less collateral damage. She's the safer choice.

>Mr. Incredible is the Superman

Never felt as such.

I get Sup Forums sperging out for films but in this case it just feels like the only reason is because it has a female lead. If there was EssJayDubya vibes in the trailer I sure as hell didn't get any.

He was the number one hero. Even in the EU stuff he's stated as such

I've mainly seen people complain that it's the same plot as the first movie and there's no time skip.

Nigger you are LYING.

Feels more like a combination of Superman and Batman. Weaker and dumber than both.

Oh yeah those are definitely the main ones for the film as a whole, it's just that I've seen a good amount of Sup Forumsisms regarding the film. The YT comments of the trailer reek that vibe tok.

I think it's because the CEO guy is specifically an old fanboy of hers.

Please don't go to the internet and spread lies.

Nigger I aint

>The YT comments of the trailer reek that vibe tok.
Pic related but honestly I don't trust youtube comments as a metric since Ghostbusters (2016)

Never fucking trust Youtube. That place is always wrong. ALWAYS.

Since the CEO guy is obviously the villain, I wonder if he also appreciates the extent to which Helen's powers could be put to pretty nefarious ends.

I mean, she's the perfect infiltrator, able to squeeze her way through any defense system. She can sneak and avoid detection even better than Bob in the first movie. And she's capable of silent, bloodless execution via asphyxiation. She'd be a hell of an assassin.

Well no fucking shit I'm just saying that there was people there acting like she's being forced as a strong character despite, y'know, the first movie existing.

>CEO guy is obviously the villain
user, I...

>CEO guy is obviously the villain
He isn't the villain, but his sister is the twist villian

Pretty, personable mom vs guy who was involved in a botched suicide, the shit with the train and threw his ex-boss through a wall. Also he got kinda fat there for a while.

>bob is now the beta stay at home dad
>helen works for handsome, powerful and rich business man who's trying to make her a celebrity
The amount of cuck porn as a result of the movie will be unreal.

Yeah, Bob's real unique superpower is his god like indestructibility. IIRC, every other super with super-strength had shit all defence, and even OP bastards like Meta-Man died to stupid stuff like their capes getting snagged.

Helen is marketable. It all matters on the marketable approach because gender roles are still a thing except it's possible to be for the reverse gender roles. Why? Because people love the underdog. The person who basically is underneath the form of power. It's the reality of it all.

And when everyone saw how Helen moved in the last movie? Shit, people want more of her and it's cool that she's doing the private work. Also Helen's more cautious and less a problematic form of workaround, it's obvious that Bob's effective when it comes to a tank but sometimes you need a jet fighter pilot that will drop a bomb quickly and get the fuck out of there.

The Incredibles was a wonderfully concise, well constructed film. The more I think about it, the more it bothers me that the clever symbolism of their powers reflecting their standing in life only applies to Dash and Jack-Jack now.
>Bob is the strong dad doing tough work and bringing home the bacon - or at least wants to be, horrible office job notwithstanding
>Helen is the busy mom being stretched in all directions
they're swapping roles now so that no longer applies
>Violet is a self-conscious teen who wants to push people away and be invisible
her character development at the end of the first film was for her to grow out of that.
But hey, at least Dash is still a hyperactive brat and Jack-Jack is still full of potential.

Well, Elastigirl has vastly less collateral damage on her record...

Mr. Incredible effectively is the reason Superheroes got pushed out of the public eye in the first place. Elastigirl is probably scott free or close to it because her powers don't really lend themselves to any kind of large scale destruction.

Before this thread gets REALLY derailed on people getting triggered that the Mother is out working while the Husband is at home.
You people are fucking lucky, we COULD have had a movie that was entirely about Mr. Incredible's nigger friend and his wife and being "Diverse" luckly for all you dumbfucks Disney still hates blacks so that'll never happen.
So instead of bitching about Mrs Thicc as fuck Incredible Thighs being the working Mom just be thankful the movie is about a white family and not some nigger family or some other minority race.

It will be like in the first movie with Bob and Mirage. First, Helen will be very flattered a young and cool guy is interested in an "old hag" like her and she still got it. Meanwhile Bob has to get accustomed to the househusband role. Eventually it turns out the hot guy is not what he seems to be and they will reunite.

This.

I'd have preferred Frozone movie.

Also western white women are shit tier

>we COULD have had a movie that was entirely about Mr. Incredible's nigger friend and his wife

SLJ's cartoon hijinks would have been the shit you jackass.

Saul Goodman wouldn't do that

Also, as much as it's already a worn out complaint, this basically being a remake but just swapping Bob and Helen bothers me a lot, it smacks of the laziness of JJ Abrams remaking A New Hope for his Star Wars movie... and hey, at least that had new characters.

Wouldn't a better, more compelling story, with more legs in terms of actually having something new to explore, be for example, rather than having Helen in his sights for making superheroes a thing again, Bob Odenkirk had Violet and Dash, the literal new generation of superheroes, in his sights instead? Then the story could be about the loss of innocence and the exploitation of children by the media, and Helen and Bob wrestle with how to manage this situation, possibly at odds with each other over it... instead of just "Helen does exactly what Bob did in the first movie, /pitch".

>basically being a remake but just swapping Bob and Helen
yeah except it's not, in the first movie Bob was hiding his illegal hero work from Helen while she investigated what he was up to because she suspected he was having an affair. Helen is not "doing exactly what Bob did in the first movie" because the whole keeping it a secret thing was kind of the whole point. In this one Bob knows what Helen is up to, he's just stuck at home taking care of his over powered son. The Incredibles would be a much different movie if Helen was aware of and supporting Bob's new career from the begining. Not forgetting that in either case that's just the set up, in the first movie a ton of shit happened after that entire plot thread was finished.
Can you just fucking wait for the movie to come out before bitching?
Don't answer that, I know you can't

What do you think about the idea of movie being mostly focused on kids?
>The happenings from the previous movie brings the topic of persecutions of supers
>more supers are coming out to daylight, unsatisfied with the current situation.
>Max and Violet goes to school.
>There's a fight between two people with superpowers.
>Apparently they're not the only supers in school.
>The atmosphere in school gets intense to the point where the principal asks Helen, Bob, and Lucius to teach kids how to use powers without murdering anyone.
>In the meantime there's a supervillain trying to take over the world.
>Mr Incredibles, Elastigirl and Frozon will job, but the day will be saved by the kids dressed by Edna.

>just be thankful the movie is about a white family and not some nigger family or some other minority race.

WTF You're like a parody of every racist ever. Never breed.

I'm more sad that their going with the solo hero thing again. What drew me to the theaters was the idea of a family of heroes fighting crime together. I love the movie we got, but really didn't get what I came for till the last chunk. I just hope the family is more involved together this time around.

>Since the CEO guy is obviously the villain,
His sister's name is literally Evil Intentions.

>People want the movie to be more focused on the family
>Suddenly its just about Helen

How inept is disney to do something this stupid?

so, Bob's character arc is obvious, what's Helen's gonna be? is she going to turn into a cunt because of all the fame and attention?

>Helen gets in trouble
>Bob takes the kids to rescue her

>Helen is at home minding the kids while Bob is off doing glamorous superhero work once again
>now Bob is at home minding the kids while Helen is off doing glamorous superhero work once again
Oh hey, this trailer has shown us that it's BASICALLY the same premise with their roles swapped. Did I say "literally"? Did I go into the specific details of the premise? No, no I fucking did not, I said "basically". Would Odenkirk wanting to put the kids to work as superheroes rather than the other parent make the premise of the second movie MORE DIFFERENT than the first movie? Yes, yes it would.

This trailer is supposed to sell me on the movie. All it's giving me is a remarkably similar scenario. I'm well within my rights to be less enthusiastic about this than I'd prefer to be, and I'm well within my rights to make this observation without having seen the totality of the film, otherwise why even discuss what we think of it at all?

Being an illiterate on a high horse is not a good look for you, user.

Probably because Elastigirl didn't get sued for saving someone and doesn't cause massive damage when doing her job.

I would have liked a movie about the kids, myself

>YASSSS QUEEN SLAYYYY

That's your reason right there. How can a Disney film in current year not have muh stonk female character while tgw white guy is turned into a stay home cuck

>Suddenly its just about Helen
It's very clearly focusing on Bob, though.

You're going to do this every thread aren't you?

So your assuming that a Frozone movie would've been Shit just because he's black?

Not an aurgment

They just wanted to do the reverse of what they did in the first film.

Do you think this is some kind of Klan rally or something?

No it was a question.

It is said right in leaks, he wasn't chosen because he caused too much destruction

I waited 14 years for THIS SHIT?!

Because the whole thing is being bankrolled by a billionaire who wants to make a profit by selling superhero merch, and he doesn't want to be liable for any property damage.

Mr. Incredible tended to cause a lot of property damage but Elastigirl didn't (and her powers would make it difficult to do anyway) so it made sense to pick her.

Also she has a nice ass. That's important.

You sure did, bitch, now suck it down.

This movie gonna suck. Sup Forums has spoken and we're always right

>Bob Odenkirk
How did I miss that it was him?

>her being less property damage
Ding ding ding, we've got a winner here.

Bob fucked things up by getting successfully sued, which was half of what started the plot, and would allow Syndrome to kill supes at will.

Dumbasses are still going to scream "Disney pushing feminism!" or some other bullshit.

You got some problems.

Like how Black Panther bombed so hard?

So instead Bob is going to spent the movie sitting at home,failing to take care of a baby while his wife goes to single handily reclaim the superhero name in the public eye's, all while cucking Bob with the billionaire. No adgenda pushing here no sir

>The current state of Burger education
So are you the next shooter?

At least I go to school nigger

>Still going to school
This is an 18+ website.

More likely she's set up as a red herring and her brother really is the villain.

Neck yourself

>The Helen-centric
Stop this shit.
The trailer spends more time showing the father having to deal with parenthood than the mother doing heroics.

Sex appeal. Same reason they got a motorcycle, so that she can sprawl out on it and they can get some good shots of her ass from behind.

Could be one of those "turns out family is more important than your job" messages as she realizes she's missing out on so much of her new child's life.

She's probably more approachable since the whole idea is to increase the interest in Supers coming back. Also her powers doesn't tend to leave much collateral damage such as Bob's.

Bob lied to her, she probably has major trust issues and he agreed to stay home and retire in order to avoid divorce and save the marriage.

someone missed the leaks i guess

Short answer, because we already saw Mr Incredible arc in the last movie, so is more interesting to have another character having the midlife crissis in this new movie.

Did you even watch the trailer?
>Disney
>Owned by Jews
>Jew producer of Disney wants more female representation in their products
>Pixar obeys their master
>However, Pixar has the last laugh as they put the Jew producer in the movie telling the Par family they want more female representation with superheroes making a comeback
Pixar is hiding their power level very well.

Because, unfortunately, Bob is a PR nightmare

While the Buddy incident wasn't Bob's fault, the lawsuits that came from the train and the suicide jumper caused a huge public backlash due to who Mr. Incredible IS.
At the time Mr. Incredible was an incredibly high-profile hero, one that had a lot of fame and recognition. It was a celebrity scandal that skyrocketed out of control. That, combined with years of property damage from other, lesser superheroes, and it was the straw that broke the camel's back. The dam broke, and shitty ungrateful civilians started suing heroes left and right.
It doesn't matter if it wasn't Bob's fault, mass media painted him as the one in the wrong, any businessman worth his salt wouldn't be caught dead funding a man best known for his penchant for property damage and grave incompetence.

However, we have no mention of Elastigirl having this sort of problems. For all we know, her record is squeaky-clean.
In terms of marketing, she's a much better option than Bob, she was just as popular as Mr. Incredible was, without the strings attached.

Also, sex appeal and the fact that the first film focused mostly on Bob's heroics and past, just like everybody else in the thread said.

South Park

If I had to get murdered asphixiated by a super milf would be a pretty great way to go

Everyone and their mother are declaring a renaissance of strong woman characters as indication of another level of woman's rights acknowledgement.

If you make anything about a white macho character you will be instantly labeled a retrograde by critics.

So he's Superman but instead of flying and laser eyes he has a batcavemobile and spider sense

Anybody can fake a leak. I'll believe it when the film's actually out.