I heard that Gwenpool is the only comic book worth reading among all the current Marvel and DC titles, is it true...

I heard that Gwenpool is the only comic book worth reading among all the current Marvel and DC titles, is it true? What's so good about it?

It's not good, it's average, which is better then the rest of curent Marvel titles.
Also she has funny 4th wall powers. A shamer there are only like 2 artists who put any effort in that comic.

>among all the current Marvel and DC titles
Oh fuck off with this statement
Gwenpool is trash compared to Deathstroke, Red Hood and the Outlaws, Super Sons, New Super-Man, Aquaman, Doom Patrol, etc

Gee, it's almost like the OP used a hyperbolic statement for the express purpose of upsetting people and getting them to shit on the book in retaliation. Stop feeding the shitposter. You bumping this thread could have been used on one of the small handful of not trash threads on the board right now.

>It's not good, it's average, which is better then the rest of curent Marvel titles.

Average is not good when it comes to montly comic books, you can read great webcomics for free online.

the best SJW Marvel Comic is still infinitely worse than the worst DC Comic. Therefore even if sjwpool is the best marvel has to offer (i wouldn't know since I'm not an SJW and only support comics that don't have an anti-white male agenda), it still wouldnt come close to being better than anything DC is putting out.

I find it refreshing because in every other comic book you can FEEL the executive meddling and desperate attention grabbing from authors trying to draw interest to a dying medium. Almost everything has an obvious external out of story reason for it and in Gwenpool it's a plot point, but it does so in a more lighthearted manner. I don't really think it's pretentious.

It makes what happens to the characters feel weirdly more meaningful when one of them acknowledges you're an entirely different person under a new writer, only people who aren't important to management can die forever, and arcs with great character changes are patently absurd because the established norm will return eventually.

I don't think this should be every capeshit story but it's one I greatly enjoy reading because of the nature of the comic book industry.

Gurihiru is also a fantastic artist who nails the feel of the story. This is a visual medium, I'm not afraid to say that art is really important.

>It makes what happens to the characters feel weirdly more meaningful when one of them acknowledges you're an entirely different person under a new writer

Sounds more like a gimmick and if anything it takes away from the story breaking the fourth wall like that.


>Gurihiru is also a fantastic artist who nails the feel of the story. This is a visual medium, I'm not afraid to say that art is really important.

Even America has really good art in some issues, doesn't take away that its a poorly written book.

It was better than super sons. I'm convinced only you pedos push it to get porn.

>It was better than super sons.

Fuck off, how is better than Super sons? Damian alone is way better written than anything that I have seen from marvel for the last 2 years

Holy shit you have god awful taste if you think that shit stain is good.

>This is a visual medium, I'm not afraid to say that art is really important.

If art is important, how come that they hire terrible artists for the book when its not drawn by the regular arists?
Reminding you that you have to pay 4 bucks for this.

Wow, great argument! Now I believe that Gwenpool is the superior book and not just SJW bland trash.

Yikes its this pathetuc autist again.

Stop making Gwenpool threads

Wow Marvel, fucking really?

You can believe what you want to believe faggot. Doesn't stop you from having godawful taste in characters. Morrison made him insufferable just to kill him for a reason.

Completely untrue. DC has plenty of good titles right now.

It's one of the only good Marvel books however.

>Throws skull throught window.
>''CRASH'' sound.
>Window still intact.

Come on!

Who did they get to draw this, Tim buckley?

So no arguments as to why Super Sons is a bad book?

Good, because its not.

Like, I like obscure characters because they're underdogs both in-universe and out of universe, they're the only characters that can potentially receive permanent consequences. Everything is going against them. Nobody is going to sterilize their backstory, shit is going to happen to them and it's either going to last or never be brought up again because they're that jnimportant until they die.

Don't agree. I enjoy a good regular superhero comic, but... We've been next to everywhere at this point. Justice League is doing an arc where thry get sued again. What happens outside of comics is so important to what happens IN comics, there's so much obvious baiting and pandering and shock value etc that having a character who's aware of it feels more meaningful story to me.

How many of the posts in this thread are you? it seems like a lot.

Its boring and predictable. Daiman is still unlikable and jon is a bargain basement chris.

>The current damian is totally the same as Morrison years ago.

It's better than Wadepool but it's still not very good.
It's better than the rest of Marvel's lineup then again, what isn't? aside from IDW's lineup

You're right he's worse know because people want to write the True Son of batman(TM).

>there's so much obvious baiting and pandering and shock value etc that having a character who's aware of it feels more meaningful story to me.


That sounds like the lame argument of ''The story sucks but they are aware that it sucks, so it means that it doesn't suck!''

Breaking the fourth wall like that is lazy writting at best.

And this is my 4th post, I know, some people post multiple times on message boards, shocking.

not that guy but who's chris

sorry i'm not brushed up on older dc at all

>It's better than Wadepool but it's still not very good.
Not true, Wadepool at least was really creative about the action and humor, Gwenpool is bland all over the place.

He was lois' and clark's adopted so. Before they got tired of the concept because children weren't hip

>Its boring and predictable

I disagree, is exiting, fun, inventive and amazing non generic color work.

Post a Gwenpool page that looks this good.

Naaahh current Duggan run Is better

Obvious flaseflaging aside, it is the last thing I was reading from Marvel. There's just wasn't anything interesting to me besides it in the past few years, the few comics I still followed slowly lost me.

DC still has a lot of good stuff though.

You couldn't tell just by the OP?

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>Gwenpool
>SJW bland trash
You've never actually read it, have you?

Fuck that retard talking shit about Super Sons though.

>that nongeneric color work
red on black is nongeneric? When did you start reading comics? The style is fine. The story is still bland.

This, the artwork alone in Super Sons is better than most Marvel books, including Gwenpool.

I really wish we could have a Gwenpool thread that isn't half falseflagging shitposting and half people falling for that.

>You've never actually read it, have you?

Yes and its really bland, non violent, non sexual, etc. They play it too safe as to no offend anyone so the writting comes off as fluff.
I have read Tiny Titans issues with more interesting writting and taking more chances than what I read in Gwenpool.

But to be fair, every female lead book at Marvel is like that with the only exception being the Jean Grey solo book.

All comic books kind of suck as stories because they by their very nature can't have true consequence and are doomed to stagnation. Deadpool will probably become a memey jokester again as marvel demands it, likely as soon as duggan steps off. Jon might get erased at some point. Duke might be quietly shoved in a corner. Not for any in-story reason, but because a new writer or management simply doesn't want to deal with them anymore.

I enjoy Gwenpool because it plays with the fourth wall in a way that's fairly light-hearted while still bearing consequence. It's not Shulkie or deadpool memes, but it's not animal man philosophical either. it's sort of in-between.

I don't think this is really cheap, I think the insinuation that anything meaningful will ever actually change (or that many people really want it to) is.

I'm also not sure I believe you, there have been an awful lot of threads just like this.

>that last panel
And people say gwenpool's filler art is bad
Geez pedos.

Marvel two in one is 3 issues in and its already 10 times better than borepool.


BUT its not gonna last, if disney feels like the fox buyan thing is shaky, they will kill it.

>All comic books kind of suck as stories because

Stopped reading right there, stop reading comics if you think like that.

Why is it blanda? are Stories of 2 sidekicks with opposing personalities interacting, the ending with the old man who built young heroes to save a world was touching

>close up to a character making a silly face
>''pedo biating lmao''
Don't you have pillows to hug or something?

I hate women and even I think this post is extreme. There's nothing wrong with Gwenpool.

wew, hellcat syndrome.

>I enjoy Gwenpool because it plays with the fourth wall in a way that's fairly light-hearted while still bearing consequence.

Examples of truly lasting consequences to her actions?

They're enjoyable but admittedly immensely flawed. Your favorite run on whatever superhero book probably didn't matter at all unless it introduced one of the few characters who managed to stick around. None of the lessons or character developments probably stuck. Only origin stories matter.

I've considered checking out the following series but I really haven't kept up to date with Marvel in the past couple years. I did like Ellis's Moon Knight though but here's the books I was considering checking out: Black Bolt, Gwenpool, Ben Reily: Scarlet Spider, Thanos, Daredevil and The Punisher.

It is when you can pretty much tell where it goes. Jon is milk toast and damian will never stop being insufferable.

>>Throws skull throught window.
>>''CRASH'' sound.
>>Window still intact.

The skulls are also fucking GIANT if you compare them with the regular sized door in between them

>All comic books kind of suck as stories

Joe Kelly's Deadpool/Spider-Man run also looks interesting.

Again, if you think like that then comic books are not for you.
You read them arc by arc and taking those arcs for what they are, if they change writters of fucking course things are going to be different.

That's what's so cool about comic books, different takes on the same character and not ''This is when Luffy gets really mad and defeats the main bad guy like nothing... for thr 20th time'' kind of thing.

>It is when you can pretty much tell where it goes
That's a really shitty non argument, the same can be said about your waifu trash book.

It's not a book that needs to be violent or sexual though.
Their absence is only a problem when the comic is using a character or telling a story that clearly needed those elements.
Making a character or story that doesn't have those elements is alright, SJW want to take that away from characters and stories that need it, and bully people out of making stories that use those elements.
Lighter comics were always a thing so I really don't understand where you are coming from with this complaint.

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding, and I can't be sure of what you actually meant, but that just came across as arguing having violence and sex improves any comic.

I won't argue against you finding it bland, I can see why someone would think that, and while I don't agree 100% (I like the coloring a lot and think it uses panel space very well later on, when Gwens abilities start developing, but that doesn't excuse the beginning being really generic).

That sounds fucking subjective, it's like saying that young justice is bad just because I dislike the characters

Not really. It breaks the 4th wall and goes in places you don't expect. Hastings as a writer knows how to lead into the unexpected.

Moon Knight its brilliant and miles above Gwenpool despite both books being self contained.The artwork its also much better and way more creative.

we don't deserve shalvey.

That's pretty much the nature of critism. Objective flaws don't exist on subjective medium even when almost everyone agrees something like squirrel girl is drawn terribly.

>Hastings as a writer knows how to lead into the unexpected.
Examples of that?

She got her friend killed and his soul stuffed into a bear monster, she's realized her mentor is doomed to be a joke for the rest of her life because no other writer is going to characterize him as he is with her.

Final issue is coming up though so the main source of conflict (what's going to happen when the book ends?) hasn't been resolved yet. The fact that the fates of her and her friends are sort of reliant on what happens with her book is a plot point, so we'll see.
individual arcs are fine, but if you read them as the same characters in a neverending story in an interlaced narrative like it is, it's an insane mess. It's not as though stories are always completely isolated, either. Often times a writer will pick up exactly where the old one left off, only with a 180 in characterization.

At least try and give some decent criticism that show to us that you read that.

Your ''criticisms'' come off as generic youtube coments ''this thing sucks because its like really bad!''

I can appreciate a book like this but I've just seen "hero navigates psychadelic, well drawn alien landscapes" before.

>She got her friend killed and his soul stuffed into a bear monster

And he became a killing machine, he forgot about who he was and...naah, I bet its played for laughs.

>she's realized her mentor is doomed to be a joke for the rest of her life because no other writer is going to characterize him as he is with her.

That's barely a consequence.


>The fact that the fates of her and her friends are sort of reliant on what happens with her book is a plot point, so we'll see.

Again, not that much of a consequence if we have to wait untill the last issue.

>I've just seen "hero navigates psychadelic, well drawn alien landscapes" before

Nothing is original these days, every story has been told before.
Gwenpool is basicallt ripping off Superboy Prime and Animal Man by that logic.

I mean what part of jon comes off as milk toast and damian is insufferable requires examples? Jon is pretty much a charaicature of what someone would think superman's son would have to be. He's more 2d than straight line. Damian is insufferable because he's obnoxious and a knowitall but still gets his way. Listing examples would take too much time on a place like this.

I would like to see if anything from Gwenpool looks this creative and colorful.

>I mean what part of jon comes off as milk toast and damian is insufferable requires examples?

Yes, because that's not what you get in the book.

As opposed to what
Superman dying?
Some female character getting raped for drama?
Like any of that will fucking stick. Just because The story acts like there's serious consequences doesn't mean there actually is, this is the thing with cape books. Most people don't give a fuck about Gwen so she might just stop here, and even if she didn't unless it's Hastings, it won't be the same character from the run you enjoyed. The story is basically man vs comic book rather than man vs man, and the consequences are basically the consequences any comic book character faces except disguised as normal.
It isn't, though. Gwenpool isn't a world-ending threat or laced with philosophical surrealism, it's straightforward without being memey, which I think or refreshing.
the super sons panel is kind of generic but the moon knight one is real good, i'll give you that.

It might even be, but he's a white man.

> it's straightforward without being memey

By memey I mean thst the 4th wall usage isn't just shulkie berating the writers for making her come out nude or deadpool suddenly alluding to being in a comic mid-page without it having any bearing on anything. Gwen is full of dumb jokes.

You are right, he was a penis too far from perfection.

How is this allowed? Imagine paying 4 to 5 bucks for this when right next door you can buy this for cheaper

Oh look this thread necromancy again masquerading under another pretext for justification to talk about Gwenpool.
Gwenpool is cancelled.
/thread.

>webcomics
Out with you.

-Person: Rob Liefeld is the worst comic book artist ever!
-Whoever drew this: Hold my ''Drinking male tears'' coffee mug.

This, the writter for Gwenpool was popular only for writting and drawing webcomics, no wonder the book turned out the way it did.

>Breaking the fourth wall like that is lazy writting at best.
The story is about breaking the 4th wall. So according to you a major plot point is lazy writing. Seems like you haven't put much thought in to your response.

>*except in those, it's disguised as normal

''Stop talking about things that I don't want you guys talking about!!''

>>/tumblr/

>So according to you a major plot point is lazy writing.
Gee, almost as if the whole book was lazy to begin with or something.

>SKELETON SHATTER

that's called character characterization you Morón

This is the problem with Sup Forums.
They deem character flaws as bad writting.
They shit on Mr. Enter while they think just like him.

tf you talking about, jean grey is pure blandness. at least gwenpool has some humor in it. jean grey is pure joss whedon cringe dialogue

Super Sons, Aquaman and Doom Patrol are shitty books

It's fun. If it's fun your into The Silencer is pretty good too.

>(You)

>It's fun

I'm gonna need some proof of that, Marvel hasn't been fun since Wolverine and The X-men was cancelled.

its fun

>Only good title among Marvel and DC
That is a SUPER EXAGGERATION. It's a fine comic though worth reading.

Written by the same dude who made the Dr. McNinja webcomic and a few good Deadpool stories. So if you enjoy any of those give it a look.

The story itself follows Gwenpool, who is a "girl transported to another world" kinda situation where she is from OUR universe and is aware she is inside of a comicbook (to a higher extreme than Deapool since she actually read Marvel comics and knew some of the lore).
So naturally she tries to be a big deal so she can continue to exist. Worth a read.

There are tons at DC. Everyone should be reading New Super-Man.

>worth.
No, it's more like.
>if you have a gun on your head and you are forced to pick up a current marvel comic...

It's quirky, fun and harmless. Some people write it off as more Marvel SJW crap, but I've never seen any actual proof of that in the actual book. (Their usual claim that it's SJW crap is the writer or whoever posing in a picture with Marvel's other creators who are definitely SJW).
Some killing happens, and there's some decent character drama once in a while, but the overall light tone of the series makes it kinda feel like... Archie's Sonic comics. (Hoo boy, I am so gonna catch Hell for that comparison...)
The art is good when Gurihiru does it (and maybe at least one other artist, but I'm not so sure about that...)

>Deathstroke
Still not as good as Deadpool.