Gentlemen, how do we make the FLASHPOINT movie not suck?

Gentlemen, how do we make the FLASHPOINT movie not suck?

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god i hate the fuzzy edges that come with shooting against greenscreen. it is so damn hideous

They keep doing Flashpoint and it keeps sucking. So they can’t.

>Directors of Vacation and Game Night
you can't

Getting an actor to play the main character would be a start.

Shelve the Flashpoint as a later plot and do Flash vs Rogues

This.

Have Marvel Studios make it.

>Make it into a series and not a movie
>do not shoehorn in a romantic subplot
>don't bother with origin stories
>use musclar early-30's flash, not early 20's skeleton flash
Its more about what you don't do.

oh you silly user, haven't you seen that people loved Quicksilver in the X-Men movies? That means they're gonna love the Flash if they make him a carbon-copy! Don't you know how market research works?

VACATION was alright.

You can't since FLASHPOINT is garbage. All of it. Juvenile, empty, grimdark garbage.

The whole point of AU stories is to be grimdark. The main universe experiences a darker version of itself so the reader watches the cautionary tale unfold.

We don't make it

Wrong

>adapting Johns' edgy bullshit
didn't they learn from Justice League

well that's really the answer to all things DC but it's never going to happen

(a) don't make it
(b) don't let Cereal Lord anywhere near it
(c) drop anything more with Henry, just don't ever mention it, never ever again
(d) as they already dropped the Iris West part, go ahead and leave it dropped

not that user, but:

>shit taste opinion discarded

>make batman v superman dark and gritty
>almost no one likes it
>make justice leage bright and happy
>no one likes it
>make flashpoint mix of both
>everybody likes it

The fact that WB execs probably agree with this is 1000000% infuriating. Like, nevermind the multitude of problems that both films face, let's just boil this down to "audience dun like dark; audience dun like bright; what do??????"

Burn everything the Snyder touches. It's the only way to be sure.

yes you are that non, ladderbro

DCEU Barry is more MCU Peter Parker than FCU Pietro.

What did the DCEU Justice League adapt from Johns? Also Justice League wasn’t edgy

That's not from green screen. Everything is fuzzy and out of focus in that shot because that's how they showed Flash's point of view in super-speed.

You can't
Flashpoint is their Infinity War the movie you can only do once you have 15 movies worth of character development behind you
But instead of waiting for the appropriate time to use the Flashpoint storyline they jumped right into with no build up or context
Just like they did with Batman v Superman which should've come out during DCs Phase 2 and been their Civil War but they didn't want to wait that long

"Flashpoint" is somewhat doable if they focus on Barry VS. Thawne and a generally dystopian/post-apocalyptic world and shift focus away from the Justice League, but with Gal Gadot and Ray Fisher already confirmed to appear, they clearly aren't going that route.

Actually use Thomas Wayne Batman

Why the fuck they keep making CROSSOVERS BEFORE DEBUTS?

It's Avante-Garde.

I'm cautiously optimistic. I liked the Flash most from the Justice League movie

Hopefully they don't make this movie too grimdark, but since they hired comedy directors it should be alright

Why does this look so out of place? The entire scene just from seeing this clip looks almost low budget porn parody with a green screen level

It's from a reshoot by Whedon. Gal Gadot and Ezra Miller weren't even on the same set, hence Gal's body double

don't make it with him as the lead

Because they must hop onto the extended universe trend befroe the excitement dies down, and that's best done with crossovers since you can introduce more characters in them.

They should have delayed the movie several months, the whole thing was clearly not finished

Rumor has it that the executives would get big bonuses if the movie was finished for it's November releases.

By not making fucking Flashpoint, you can adapt literally any other story and it will be 100x better than Flashpoint

most of the blame boils down to "TOO DARK" and "NUT MUH"
Civil War

>there are anons who legitimately believe this was good
Oh man, I know DC stands for Damage Control but fuck user, at least have some dignity when talking about that dumpster fire of a film

I don't understand why they have to make another Flaspoint movie...? I mean, we already have JL The Flashpoint Paradox wich was/is the best DC Animated movie and the best adaptation of a comic book to date...

shut the fuck up ladderbro and go back to shill the epically awful marvel spiderman cartoon
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>JL The Flashpoint Paradox wich was/is the best DC Animated movie
debatable. Flashpoint isn't that great of a Flash story. Not sure why so many writers have a hard-on for it

I'm not person you're replying to. It's a fine film, but it's more of a Justice League story than a Flash story. This is the Flash's first live-action feature film and it's going to be doing one of the least Flash-y stories.

I’m sorry to hear about your case of Shit Taste, I hear they have some treatments for that.

Flashpoint is mostly average. The main flaw of it is that it was pretty much just a flash story when it was should've been to be the big event that was gonna reboot the universe so at least this won't be a problem with the movie

Eobard and the Rogues were the best part about it and neither were in it very long.

I think Wonder Woman proved audiences just like a normal tone. It was great because it wasn't edgy Snyder shit and it wasn't MCU goofy quip shit, it had a proper moderate tone.

Wonder Woman is also extremely forgettable, aside from Poison and Evil General laughing and Diana actually using the lasso in a fight, nothing really stands out in that movie like stuff from other films did

There was nothing memorable on black panther as well, nothing at all, hell even on the release week no one quote any line, no one talk about any part of the plot, villain,fight etc

I cant say anything about BP because I haven’t seen it yet, but I do remember quite a few threads with people talking about how much they liked Klaw and the other guy.

We've been having daily Killmonger threads. That's a little rare for a marvel movie.

WE can't do anything because that's out of our control

You're kidding, right? No Man's Land fight was one of the most talked about action scenes in ages and almost the entirety of the Diana/Steve romance is memorable, even the sword in the dress quickly became iconic. There's very little of the movie that isn't memorable.

John Frances Daly browses Sup Forums. He'll probably stop by Sup Forums when working on Flashpoint

>I liked the Flash most from the Justice League movie

Objectively poor taste.

>Civil War
>After two Avengers movie

boi

Ezra is cute.. CUTE!

Based.

>No Man's Land fight was one of the most talked about action scenes in ages

Dude, no.

Everything about him is grating and annoying.

Bullshit. it brings back some of that Wally West goofy humor. he just looks like a dork, dude needs to spend some hours at the gym lifting weight

Cute.

which character did you like the most

Well Jeffrey Dean Morgen be Thomas Wayne? This has to be the only reason they casted him right or did Snyder just want more Watchmen bs?

I'll agree with the romance and only because Chris Pine carried the entire movie and Gal Gadot's flat ass.

Get rid of that disease ridden fuck they have playing him

Does Ezra even have the ability to act as a genuinely serious person? Because if they dropped all of that bullshit that he did in JL and just had him acting like Barry I’d be fine with him

Does Fantastic Beasts count?

You cast anyone except that fucking cross eyed Jew

Didn't they start casting for Thomas Wayne or something too? So they're going to have SUPER edgy Batman on top of already edgy lame Batfleck

Also, I cannot stress how much of a mistake it would be to have WW as her Flashpoint self after she's the only well liked hero in the public consciousness

>lame Batfleck
Ben Affleck is quietly killing it, and any flaws in Batman you see onscreen are a result of bad writing, not bad acting.
Affleck is arguably the best Bruce/Bats we've ever had and ever will get.

It's an MCU movie where the villain was actually memorable. That's enough to make Black Panther stand out.

we make it two hours of danelle panabaker having lesbian sex with Violett Beane with a side plot of Shantel VanSanten having an dildo fuck her in the ass.

Nope.
You just have shit taste user.

Own it.

Was he any good in that?

Cyborg's origin story. The entire use of the mother boxes. Henry being in prison for Nora's murder and a whole bunch of other shitastic Cereal Lord fan fiction he's written that he desperately wants to make the ONLY canon.

You don't make it.

By not making a flashpoint movie.
Who ever thought the first Flash movie should be the ending is an idiot.

Not a rumor and it was more about a standard end of the year release versus specifically tied to the November release, although the movie HAD to be released before the end of the year by at least two weeks.

That seems to be WB’s marketing tactic, why make BvS the first onscreen meeting of Superman and Batman? In the comic Supes and. ATA has been friends for a long time so when we do see them throw down and start fighting it’s awful because we know that deep down these are two best friends who don’t really want to fight. BvS just kind of rushed that and it was awful.

>Just don't do it.
>Wait 8 Years.
>Start the DCCU over again.
>Get competent directors.
>Have a fucking plan
>Carefully build on each consecutive movie.
>Get decent directors and actors.
>Actually know the fucking characters youre trying to get onto the movie screen.
>COLOURS! FUN! EXCITEMENT! IT'S COMICS for fuck sakes. YOu aint getting an oscar for it. It's fun movies for 10 year olds. Make it accordingly (except Batman)
> Control your inner jew and you'll make many many dosh for the next 50 years.

If you read all the tie-ins and consider that even without them, it really involves Thomas Wayne to a great deal and Edgelord Arthur and Killer Warrior Wondy are key components, there's no way to sincerely call even the main story arc a Barry story.

You obviously need to spend more time outside the basement, as well as realize that this echo chamber is far from the real world.

Fuck the possible retcons that intend to "fix" this universe, the entire premise is flawed from the get go. Flashpoint only works when it flips a universe upside down that the audience is already well familiar with, one with a long history. What does the DCEU have? We just fucking formed the League. Not only that, but its a bleak setting that WB was intent on getting away from thanks to audience outcry, which now seems flip floppy.

In short, its a dumb story, and even dumber when you try it in this setting

1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Need_to_Talk_About_Kevin_(film)

2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanford_Prison_Experiment_(film)

Most of his career is independent, low budget, non-mainstream, non-studio type tentpoles, with the exception of the DC Films and Fantastic Beast films, out of about 15 things he's done.

Gentlemen...

>don't make it with him as the lead

Agreed, user

Wally's humor was never goofy. He was a smartass, not a sperg.

You couldn't be more wrong. It should've just been a Flash story instead of a stupid hamfisted reboot story.

Unclear at this point.

Wally could be a bit of a goof around Linda, actually. But not this weird cringe lord faux goofiness. Wally was actually charming.

>character is barely established
>let's do the story where everything we know about the character and his world is turned upside down

You're the one in an echo chamber if you think No Man's Land is one of the most talked-about scenes IN AGES.

It made its splash at the time of release and was forgotten like so many others.

Make it slowly more and more clear that the DCEU is the Flashpoint shitty timeline, ending with Eobard Thawne revealing himself as the mysterious stranger from BvS.
Set up a second movie that starts with yet more buildup to Flashpoint before getting into Flashpoint proper. Maybe a timeskip between the two movies. Second movie ends with Barry racing back in time (passing by a version of himself similar to post-Crisis) and merging disparate timelines.
Final scene is an unidentified young man ordering t-shirts from a street vendor. Last shot of the DCEU shows the Superman symbol on the shirt.

A Christmas Carol

>how do we make the FLASHPOINT movie not suck?

sell DC to Marvel

Seems par for the course for DC movies. They jumped ahead and did Batman fighting Superman and the death of Superman when the universe basically just started.

>Gentlemen, how do we make the new Tomb Raider movie not suck?
This is how you sound.

Nu Laura Croft wasn't annoying as fuck in a miserable failure of an ensemble flick.

There's considerable room to doubt the value of another Ezra Miller Flash appearance.

>Let's capitalize on the diminishing returns of the Justice League by telling a convoluted reboot story starring the most annoying character from said failed film.

Here's a better idea: After Aqualobo craters at the box office, let's bury the idea of theatrical Superfriends for a decade and go back to Vertigo and Batman movies.