Born in south Africa remember . He believed that there was a hierarchy of races white people having a clear pecking order among them . White people with brown eyes and brown hair being the lowest House of Haleth . White people with brown / blue eyes and blond hair being a step above them House of Hador . White people with black hair and blue eyes being the highest of all human races House of Bëor . This is vary well depicted in the LOTR film Trilogy . They were known as the Three Houses of Men or the Edain to the elves they all allied together though against the "lesser men" those that had brown or black skin who were followers of the dark lord . Race is central to all of Tolkien's works . Tolkien is the final red pill and he was so racist that he made it cool .
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Weren't most dark skinned races Not!Mongols/Arabs rather than Africans though?
Tolkien was actually an avowed anti-racist and a staunch opponent of Apartheid and the Nazis. When people make connections between Orcs and real world races he was "horrified".
dwarf > elf
prove me wrong
Tolkien has said again and again he hates books that are allegories to real life, and has repeated that his works are to be taken at face value, as a story.
>He believed that there was a hierarchy of races
He was a Anglo not a backwards boer, he believed in the superiority of Western Civilization and Christianity and did not believe in the inferiority on Negroes but instead they should be lifted up
>This is vary well depicted in the LOTR film Trilogy
>vary
fucking retard
"You have to understand the good in things, to detect the real evil. But no one ever calls on me to "broadcast" or do a postscript. Yet I suppose I know better than most what is the truth about this "Nordic" nonsense. Anyway, I have in this war a burning private grudge... against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler ... Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light. Nowhere, incidentally, was it nobler than in England, nor more early sanctified and Christianized"
read the books
how about read what Tolkien said
>Born in south Africa remember
He moved when he was 3 years old so I dare say he didn't have the most developed view on the societal race hierarchy of the country.
yes the east was never really discussed in the books black people in the story were only ever mentioned and were known as the Troll men of far Harad .
Anglo-Saxons in South African had a much more accepting view to blacks than the boers
>Kaffers should be lifted up.
You goddamn racistic ableist. Are you implying that those negroes require assistance to be "lifted"? That they do not have the ability to evolve on their own?
Those who are following Pagan ways will always be condemned to ignorance
The Dwarfes are the Jews, greedy little people who lived for gathering gold and by doing so in they unmeasured greed they released upon the world the deepest evils (balrogs and dragons)
Perfect analogy of the Jew.
Tolkien didn't believe this shit take your trash off my board bitch.
tolkiens dwarfs are a direct reference to jews
lmao man
Tolkien explicitly stated he hated apartheid
Tolkien wrote 2 letters insulting the Nazis
And he said that he hated allegory
Not to mention he said that racialist theories were nonsense
i were the rings that caused the greediness and desire for riches.
if your analogy is true, and the dwarves are jews, whos sauron?.
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actually he just ripped off the story of the dajjal, or maybe he was a secret muslim
Tolkien borrowed Dwarves, Trolls, Elves et cetera from Norse mythology. They are not his creations.
I kid you not, Jews wrote letters to Terry Pratchett thanking him for "drawing similarities between dwarves and Jewish people" in his books, and "portraying them well".
this
The stranglers said golden brown wasn't about drugs. Allegory is often used to discuss taboo subjects. Disagree with it being about race. Think it is more about the nature of power and the effects of a societies culture on the individuals of said society.
>he was a secret muslim
kys
Sauron = MOLOCH
Maybe its because the middle east really is fucking mordor. I used to be the shire, full of jolly and kind of dumb farmers that loved to drink and fuck :(
It's also I believe an exposition of his religious views, as a devout catholic the creation of a seperate story allowed him to diverge without blasphemy.
Tolkien was very outspokenly against allegory. He was confronted with theories all the time and he took them very personal and shot every single one down as being wrong. He was completely against the idea of anything he every wrote as being an analogy for anything else.
Tolkien was an amazing man and one of the treasures of the human race and you do him an incredible dishonor and disrespect him by continuing to try to and force this meme that it's an allegory when he was incredibly frustrated and against the idea every time it was brought up in life.
Yes I'm fucking mad because Tolkien is my hero
you are probably right. i have a deep respect for him and i thing his mythology of Arda is even more deeper than any bible or other shit in our current religions.`
We humans have a tendency to find connections between things so it´s natural to see allegory's even if they dont exist.
Tolkien is a Human legend.
Elves make the best qt femboi traps
tolkien's books are boring he cant write characters
he is the poor mans GRRM
they released upon the world the deepest evils (balrogs and dragons)
They did not release these things. They were hibernating not imprisoned. The Balrogs went into hiding after Morgoth was defeated
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sounds like itallian faggotry. they got this thing where sicilians are though of as nig rape babies but the ones with blue eyes and black hair are prized
or like that shit from dune where people have dark hair and blue eyes and fight over some faggy desert
Wrong.
Tolkien was cool because he didnt make a big deal out of his racism.
Who here /casualracist/?
casual racism is best racism
yes, but the dwarfs woke them by digging deeper and deeper while mining for gold.
it´s stated in the Tolkien´s works
Dwarves are greedy jew midgets who would betray their kin for shiny metal
Mankind > Jew Midgets > naive altruistic knife ears
no, sauron is an administrator
moloch could be morgoth, prime evil
but morgoth was much like lucifer initially
sauron is just a lieutenant that became first in command when morgoth got defeated by the good gods
his abilities are those of an admin, really
It's just a MacBeth fanfic
Fucking plap
>devout catholic
this meme has to die
he taught me magic
that's not christian, that's anti christian
tolkien is all about magic, have you seen any christ in there? you've dreamed if you have
allegory or not is irrelevant in this discussion
he graded the races of his imaginary world by whiteness being closely related to goodness and power
Nope
If you were an actual fan you'd know this
that's not an argument.
Could you elaborate how he taught you magic ? Not looking to test you I'm just genuinely curious