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Is it wrong to fall in love with a Cartoonist/Animator's avatar? Is it any different from waifuing a character from an actual series?

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>falling in love
Lust is not the same as love. What's wrong is that you don't know the difference between the two.

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Who's this, precisely?

And there's entire threads on /aco/ dedicated to certain avatars. It's ridiculous.

Zone-Tan

Author avatar of Zone-Sama, creator of various interactive flash rule 34's circa 2007. Most recently did a ghostbusters parody.


Real talk, though. How old do you have to be to frequent this place and not know this? I mean, sure the style is slightly different, but still.

lol u r gay

I guess it's sort of better? Maybe a little bit less fucked up?
I mean, look at it this way: if you think a kids' cartoon character is hot and draw macrotfwerediaperscatinflationvore pics with them, it's pretty fucked up because they're primarily a kids' cartoon character, not meant for anything like that. But the avatar? The avatar is not really a character most of the time, it's just some drawing someone uploaded on the internet, realizing the possible consequences. Yes, drawing macrotfwerediaperscatinflationvore shit with them is still fucked up, but it's not QUITE AS fucked up because you're not corrupting something innocent, you're just drawing shit based on the work of someone who uploaded it on the internet.

>Author avatar of Zone-Sama
It's just Zone, bro. The "sama" is incredibly narcissistic.

Zone tan, avatar of ZONE. Not exactly sure how long zone has been making porn but he basically inspired alot of western porn artists that are currently drawing today. He's not as big since he's too busy to pump out new stuff at the rate he used to.

no

Falling in love with a fictional character is not bad at all, whether she's an artist mascot or not. It's not weird at all. Hell, we live in a reality where there's men who think they're women and vice versa. That's the definition of fucked up.

OP, between you and me, people who crushes on a fictional character are more normal than you think. They can be kids/teens/adults, boys or girls, young or old. The thing is that there's love in-between. As long the feeling remains the same, it doesn't matter if he/she is real or not, what matters is that you think and feel that he/she is the best thing that could have ever happened to you. That character gives you the willpower to continue on living, and reach objectives.

Is Zone even a girl? Did it even show it's voice or a pic of theyselves?

I don't even remember of any moment when Zone claimed that /he/she was a girl

That was surprisingly wholesome.

>And there's entire threads on /aco/ dedicated to certain avatars.
Isn't just Jaiden and her friends though? Those threads started very good but lately went to shit. As for OP's question, no there is nothing wrong with it, in fact some of them can be real cuties, pic related.

No it's genuinely no different, in reality anything and everything you do has a chance to upset someone so fuck it you do you if it makes you happy.
This is hands down the best advice I've heard on this in a while.

She's underselling herself though.

Holy fuck. I think I'm ready to pick my first waifu and improve my life for her

la creatura americano....

She is 100% white, you're asian or something?

She’s like a creator’s assistant avatar. She even has a voice actress in animations. The actual Zone is a guy.

>TFW i have a zone logo shirt and whenever i wear it i get a few stares from people who obviously recognize it

People are more pervert than you think.

it's way more painful when you fall in love with the person behind the avatar
i've been e-stalking pan pizza for almost 2 years now
i just want him to know that he's a good boy and i love him

>tfw you think his friends have passed from a funny teasing to full public humiliation and you feel bad for him

pan deserves a friend who appreciates his degenerate self.

I want to fuck him in the ass ever since i discovered him last year

>Is it wrong to fall in love with a Cartoonist/Animator's avatar?
No, you just joined the actual patrician side.

he's some sort of masochist who simultaneously loves and hates being humiliated
i don't think he actually wants to be bullied 24/7 but the public image he's made for himself is so strong that he has no way of stopping it so he just goes along with it

I understand being bullied by your friends and having his fetish but jesus Nolan is such a fucking asshole towards pan.

Oh, I didnt have that vector. Here's the original.

So basically you're asking if it's better to sit or stand when you're at rock bottom?

the problem with fictional characters is that they're a canvas for you to project your own persona onto. loving a waifu is just a more complex form of narcissism, and it will alienate you from the world. the longer you pander to this habit, the harder it becomes to learn to accept the way real people are.

>The actual Zone is a guy.
Zone never said it's gender, they're a completelly anonymous animator

Cartoons are shit comics are better

Stop. Zone is a guy.

Real people are shitty, anyway. It doesn't have to be a negative thing, the canvas for projecting your persona, only shitty people let it become narcissism like you described, most people (or at least intelligent people) would see their problems and improve upon them if they're actual problems.

Zone never said they are a guy, nor they ever posted any pic,video or audio, we don't know anything about Zone at all the fag is just anonymous as us in this site.

There is a lot of female nsfw artists

Oh fuck off already, that shit was debunked years ago. He's credited with his actual name in some game or something he was involved in long ago.

Source:ASS

oh man that's top cute

Fuck you for making me spend way too much time finding this.
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I liked the Panda better when it was a trap.

i don't think kenny ever was a trap
I agree with the sentiment tho

>when
Wait, what? I don't keep up with e-celebs. My weakness for cute panda girls, and subsequent sadness over that not being a cute panda girl, is the only reason I even recognize it.

cute!

Kenny absolutely, if for a short time, used to be a boy.
I mean, she's called Kenny.

Yes, it reeks of loneliness and desperation.

Not in the fucking slightest.

Well said

Wait... tell me more.

>those wrists, ankles and fists
uh

>muh loomis

No, there's really no difference in waifuing a main character of a series, they're both just as creepy. Not that there's anything wrong with that mind you.

Better than falling in love with any fandom OC.

>falling in love with any fandom OC.
Y-yeah, ridiculous.

i draw the line at avatars of real people

She's my waifu! I don't see anything wrong

I don't know what love feels like user
so be true to you man

They are pretty good yes

Ya got something to confess there...?

Are there legitimate cute fandom OCs?

>>falling in love
>Lust is not the same as love. What's wrong is that you don't know the difference between the two.

Shut the fuck up nigger.

my love is as pure as olive oil

>Is it wrong to fall in love with a Cartoonist/Animator's avatar? Is it any different from waifuing a character from an actual series?

you may waifu whoever the fuck you want , user.
As long as it isnt 3DPD of course

my heart

You and I are the same user. Pan's IRL self and his avatar are cute af

Booooo

It is when the artist in question is a real human bean, IE a normal person.

This seems fitting.

>filename
Being the current most popular youtuber with an avatar on internet, otherwise I dunno. There are other people's avatars far more deserving the attention/lewds Jaiden's get. And unless the avatar looks 1:1 like their real life self (so never) then there is nothing wrong with waifu or beating your meat to them

why does everyone suddenly wanna fuck pan i thought i was special
well at least i’m a goth gril

>i'm a grill
Then follow the rules.

The real question is why is there so much diaper fetish art of her

funny how that slut disapeared overnight. I wonder how will people feel when tomoko does the same

Well her anime ended and the manga had long since gone to shit, while Watamote only got better

In fact MGX ended at just about the right spot because the manga goes to shit right after with the idol arc

DOHOHOHOHOHO.

I'm astounded you know what /aco/ is without instantly recognizing zone tan.

> Is it any different from waifuing a character from an actual series?
Slightly, in that there's a one to one relationship between an avatar and a person, and that the avatar represents the person. A better comparison would be a corporate mascot. Particularly say something like Wendys. Who has an amazingly high amount of rule 34 considering the starting point.

How is infatuation with a fictional character any worse than fixating on other immaterial concepts as a means of self-motivation? I'll grant you there's some truth to what you say, but that sounds like more of a shallow misuse of a coping mechanism rather than an innate flaw in the mechanism itself.

Sure, it may be easy to idolize a one-dimensional conceptualization of a character to remain happily content in stagnation, but you could just as well imagine greater depths to their personality to make them feel more life-like and worthwhile to devote your affection to. You could will thoughts and aspirations outside of your relationship into them, make suppositions upon their basic standards for what they'd look for in a partner (to encourage self-improvement to match them), and all this would inevitably strengthening your emotional attachment to them just as it would apply with any real person in a relationship. Once you move past base lust for them, they become less of a narcissistic thought toy and more of a muse with some vague semblance of agency of their own.

The devastating blind risk of human error is really the single most significant psychological distinction between waifus and the genuine article, and frankly, that's virtually inevitable where all 3DPD's are concerned. And regardless what your stance on waifufaggotry is, propping yourself up on relationships to remain functional is one of the gravest mistakes anybody can make, so you might as well choose 2D if you really need that particular kind of boost.

Listen to this user, as he says nothing short of the truth.

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Y'all have issues

>Y'all
Country bumpkins need not apply.

Ok, now fuck off newshit

I've been here eight years retard
Eleventh largest city in the good ol' US of A, partner.

Get down with the sickness or get out.
Also I'm not your partner, young buck.

>eight years
So a newshit, fuck off.

It's not real, they aren't real. They cannot reject you, there will never be any probelms or hardships to work through, they can't say no to you, they aren't a true individual. They aren't real. They are not nor will they ever be real.

Non of the things they have accomplished are real, these things did not require strength, willpower and or anything in order to be done. Only for a writer to write them as having done these things in the context of thier universe, it did not take any real effort like a real person would need in order to do anything.

There is a certain point where interest in a fictional thing becomes an unhealthy obession, and it's when the person inerested starts to put way to much stock into what these fictional things and characters represent and use them as a way to avoid reality and escape into a fictional reality where there are no hardships, no challenges and everything is tailormade to suit what you want. Unfortuantely this is often done by people that are to lazy or weakwilled to face reality and make it into a life they wish to live, instead they give up and use escapism to fill the void and you can imagine why such a disconnect from reality is so bad and has be normally viewed as such for so very long. It's unhealthy and it's avoiding your problems. I like fiction and characters as much as the next guy but I would never use it to avoid real life and everything that goes along with it, good and bad.

doesnt that rule only pertain to Sup Forums?

A simple "bump" had been fine, there's no need to try and hide it.
Pic related explains why it's not board specific, if you have the mental capacity to add 2 and 2 together.

collab when?

bump
this thread is getting spicy

Ashcorp made Kenny ambiguous because he thought it'd be cute, then people started drawing porn of the panda as a trap, he got really upset because he'd grown unhealthily attached to them, and went out of his way to scream "IT'S A GIRL IT'S A GIRL".

I wouldn't say its wrong as much as you don't know what love is and might suffer from slight autism.

Projecting much?

So long as its a buddy cop adventure where Zone is a no-nonsense cop and Shad is a loose cannon cop on the edge.

Don't deny it, i've seen it happen and every time the person ends up feeling unfufilled and alone. Noone should do that to themselves.

>tfw never had a crush on an actual person
>but I get crushes on people's artstyles and have no idea what to do with that feeling

Can anyone else relate?

it's not wrong at all, and if it is then i don't wanna be right.

Frankly, I think the real problem with waifus in that the whole appeal of a love that won't hurt you is a lie. Unless you go full Pygmalion and sculpt your own waifu and never let anyone know about them, the nature of fiction still has you handing your emotional investment over to another human being in control of that waifu. Worse, none of them actually care about you, they care about making their story or pandering to a niche or even just hurting you, personally.

When humans tell each other stories, we are inherently relying upon another human to create them. We invest in them, and if they take a turn we don't like, we're dragged along for the ride. All those stories of crazy elevens burning their LNs because some shit they didn't like happen, all those times a series tanks because the people they pandered to had their waifu do something they didn't want. All are a result of even fictional characters being able to hurt you because they are never truly yours and only yours. Escapism is ultimately a problem because the escape is simply false. You can never escape, not as long as you are in any way interacting even indirectly with another human. There's only one true escape, and we joke about that all the time because it's the logical end of chasing that escapism as its flaws become impossible to ignore.

>All those stories of crazy elevens burning their LNs because some shit they didn't like happen, all those times a series tanks because the people they pandered to had their waifu do something they didn't want.

I have become really rusty on Sup Forums stuff but I know about 2 of those intances

Probably overstating the amount myself. I know there's screen breaking over other things and then every time an idol so much as looks at a dude. But those are 3DPD of course, so not entirely germane to the conversation. Still, there's a similarity in perspective. A lot of times on Sup Forums this hate crosses over into legitimate criticism of the direction a show took, but it all serves as a warning that your waifu is never truly your waifu and if you think 2D lets you escape from the cruel hands of other people, you're only fooling yourself.

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Why the fuck would he name an intentionally ambiguous character Kenny of all things? If he wanted the gimmick to work he needs gender neutral names, like Alex or Frankie. The dude fucked it up at the first step.