Post books that could never succeed if published today

Post books that could never succeed if published today

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Anything that isn't generic cape.

I think this would still do well, satire will always be popular and the current decade is very political.

The Sandman.
Fuck, anything that's 80's & 90's Vertigo wouldn't last long.

>Implying any comic today is successful

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Some parts of it would obviously not work (because they're about no longer current events), but I think you could have a contemporary Transmet that's as edgy as the original.

>The Sandman
If the initial issues had better art it might work today. But yeah, as it was I'm also sceptical.

Can someone redpill me on Transmetropolitan? Because I really wanted to like it, but I just couldn't (which usually means I was too dense or shallow to get what was good about it).

Nu!Ellis would be too busy jacking it to tranny porn for the series to ever reach double digits.

The election storyline would be hella relevant.

Counter culture for dummies

It would get shat pretty hard on Sup Forums.

I don't know, sometimes it feels like the perfect comic for this site.

>Smiler vs Beast

>Hilliary vs Trump

Really makes you think

Someone would probably sperg about The Beast.

it used to get posted all the time on Sup Forums roughly a decade ago I guess. times change.

The political compass of Sup Forums changed. "Fuck you all" anarchism is not as hip as alt right virgin frogs nowadays.
Not for me, though; fuck y'all.

Pff, as if most comics today don't gave sgit art.

I was thinking about storytiming it at some point.

>The political compass of Sup Forums changed
It changed in the way a maggot changes into a fly. It's not like there was a monumental unnatural shift.

Please do, I didn't even read it until last year and I've been in this site for almost 10 years.
It would make Sup Forums a better place.

Sure it could.

meh, didn't like how Spider was a bit of a moralizing, holier than thou cunt when he himself is such a psycho junkie shitter whose only power is to have everything go well in the end.
Like, who the fuck are you to shit so hard on religion and politicians?

Spider was angry a lot and i could see why. He lived in a society where there are machines that can turn garbage into anything you want and there was still people living on the streets covered in litter and shit.

I mean you could go to the corner drug dealer and pick up intelligence boosting drugs no problem and yet while people are turning themselves into nanoclouds and aliens no one has any idea on how to make the world suck less.

Ellis basically wrote a book that was "Hunter Thompson's Cyberpunk Adventures".

Was part of the failed "Matrix/Helix" sub-line DC launched in the late 90s to be their sci-fi version of Vertigo (true side note; they were forced to change the line's name after launching it, from Matrix to Helix because the Warner Brothers film division didn't want it to have the same name as the Matrix film series).

As stated, it started out as badly written Hunter Thompson fan fiction from Ellis (Hunter Thompson knew about the series and basically HATED it; however, he was too lazy to sue Ellis and DC into oblivion). The first twelve issues were shitty and it survived the shuttering of the Matrix/Helix line because DC was grooming Ellis for big things; they moved the book to Vertigo to keep it going.

The book got retooled with issue #13 from sci-fi to political satire with Ellis creating a villain "The Smiler"; a Presidential candidate that was a secret villain.

Smiler was basically super satanic Tony Blair, but as the series progressed, George W Bush happened and Ellis retooled the series to be one big screed about how evil Bush was.

Also, of note:

the entire ending is HUGE fucking continuity fuck-up. Hunter gets the smoking gun to bring down the Smiler from a character who doesn't get the camera (given to her by the main character) she uses to get said proof, until AFTER the crime takes place.

Also, the ending is super shocking in terms of Hunter's ultimate fate (Spider breaks the fourth wall in a stage suicide attempt that ends up a joke).

Not really; the whole Beast/Smiler thing was rooted HEAVILY in the constant raping that the Torries gave Labour and the Smiler, in those early issues, is basically Tony Blair (everyone loves him until you spend time with him and his true sociopathic nature comes out).

Not to mention the Princess Diana angle (Blair managed to shamelessly exploit Diana's death in the early days of his time as Prime Minister to pass all sorts of shit that fucked over the working class in Britain).

One of the one-off column themed issues stated that the future was one huge memory hole 1984 type deals; the government constantly rewrote history and it had gotten to the point that 99.9% of the population had stopped giving a fuck.

>Transmetropolitan
Are you shitting me? This comic would be popular as fuck right now.

That analysis is complete shit. And I can't believe that you genuinely think that a continuity error somehow undermines the series quality in message, theme, characterization etc. That's weapons grade autism, dude.
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Ellis got a ton of shit over this major continuity fuck up when the issues ran.

I won't dispute that. Sup Forums would hate everything it considers good if it came out today.

>This comic would be popular as fuck right now.

Really? Because if the inherent political faggotry that's already scorned en masse doesn't drive readers away, the self-fellating romanticizing of journalism keeping the government in check would.

You seem to forget this came out in a time before the media was fully exposed as corrupt mass producers of clickbait who will literally say and do anything for money.

Really? I thought Trump was the smiler.

If only the stupid masses knew about the "corrupt mass producers of clickbait who will literally say and do anything for money" back then, amiright?

The romanticising of journalism that's in the comic is constantly talking about how proper investigative journalism needs to come back. That's about the entire point of the comic (besides Ellis jerking his hate boner to whatever annoys him at the moment).
So unless you're a chink or a criminal, why the fuck wouldn't you approve of proper investigative journalism and Spider's hunt for truth?

Because both hillary and trump were shit, but people only want to know about their enemies, not their own.

Did you reply to the right post now?

>Like, who the fuck are you to shit so hard on religion and politicians?
wew

Most things from the Golden Age.

Because it's overrated garbage just like Woodward and Berenstein were.

Everyone acts like Watergate was this horrible moment in American history that destroyed everyone's trust in the presidency when that type of underhanded actions was being performed openly as far back as the 1700s. It's an excuse for print media to cling to relevancy now because they treat it as a staple of American history.

>As stated, it started out as badly written Hunter Thompson fan fiction from Ellis (Hunter Thompson knew about the series and basically HATED it; however, he was too lazy to sue Ellis and DC into oblivion).

I had thought this was the complete opposite. Are you sure you’re not thinking of his depiction in Doonesbury?

Transmet also was pre-mainstream internet journalism being a huge fucking thing.

Back in the early 00s, the left had Salon and that was about it. Huffington Post didn't become a big thing until around the late 00s and Buzzfeed and other places didn't hit it big until Obama came along and they became his online propaganda wings.

Transmet is also tainted by Ellis himself annointing Leigh Alexander (at the height of Gamergate) the "real life Spider Jeruselam" on Twitter, which is laughable as Leigh is the type of mainstream media hack journalist that Spider beat to an inch of their lives, when they mocked Spider as not being a "real journalist".

pic related.

It doesn't matter if it's over or underrated. It's not a fucking movie.
The point is that in a democracy, shit like that shouldn't happen. And if it does, someone should tell the voters about it.

Although I don't give half a fuck about Watergate or Nixon. Wouldn't even care if it happened today. But what matters is that I am allowed to choose if I care about it or not.

and yet american's still stick to a two party system

political books sell like hot cakes today.

Hunter hated people who wrote super thinly disguised versions of himself to cash in on his celebrity. But in general, he never got around to suing Trudeau* and Ellis and their corporate publishers, because at the end of the day Hunter did not want to deal with the legal system and the headache of long drawn out court fight.

*In Trudeau's defense, Duke was a corrupt businessman and just different enough to allow Trudeau to get away with the homages he made towards Hunter. Spider on the other hand, was a full-on rip off of Hunter and Ellis never fucking even hid the fact that Spider=Hunter

Spoken like a worthless millennial scum.

Watergate was a huge fucking deal because it was the first time that the government/president was caught doing horrible things WHILE IN OFFICE in manner that could not be swept under the rug until well after they left office.

It also brought down Nixon, who was the first president to resign in disgrace because of his illegal actions.

so this point that hunter hates transmet is total conjecture?