The most masculine thing you can do is fill up a woman with your babies

The most masculine thing you can do is fill up a woman with your babies.

But after doing so, there's no evolutionary reason to stay with her. Most mammals don't have paternal care, so having the man stay around is just a social construct to tie up men into relationships.

From an evolutionary standpoint , a woman knows innately that once she becomes pregnant, the man has no reason to stay because she no longer offers reproductive potential.

However it's in her interest that the man stay to support her. This is why pregnant women are insatiably horny during their pregnancy, as they attempt to have them and stay around by continued offers of sex.

Having a man stay does not benefit the man. It only benefits the woman. Therefore marriage is a feminist concept. The idea of the nuclear family only ties up the reproductive potential of men.

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Ever wonder why every single problem in America stems from fatherless heathens? Hmm I wonder if there is a correlation.

>most mammals
We are not most mammals you subhuman.

>Having a man stay does not benefit the man. It only benefits the woman
Yeah because single mothers are so good at raising children
It's why niggers are so well behaved and well mannered, because their fathers ditched them
0/10 bad b8

>tfw your brother nephew is a communist

>R selected degeneracy

>t. nigger

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Incorrect, you stick around to ensure your offspring is powerful and successful, THEN you leave to start another family with a new, fertile woman once your offspring are in their 20s.

This instinct is commonly known as a "mid-life crisis"

Animals leave their children. People care about the offspring's upbringing and wellbeing and supporting them into the next generation to become proud grandparents. Having grandchildren is the ultimate reward. Having a family that comes to visit you in your old age and make sure you're taken care of.

Single mothers don't matter. It only matters that they have children that survive, because having more culture that children are more successful children does not actually benefit the man.

Having more children does.

Dumb as fuck. Girls without a father in their life are almost guaranteed to have major issues. Boys without fathers have no role model and usually end up in prison or gay.

Yeah, people caring for each other sure is feminist. Seriously, what the fuck? How many displaced emotions are you experiencing right now?

Daddy?? It's me Dashaun!

Or if neither of those, then they struggle excessively to live a decent life.

Having grandchildren that take care of you is totally meaningless. It feels good, and that's just another bullshit feels argument from libshits.

You surviving longer past your reproductive years literally does nothing for your children.

They actually have to spend their valuable energy and resources taking care of you when they could be impregnating their own women and having their own children.

Overall, family is a social construct that is detrimental to men

Shills still on pol?

>But after doing so, there's no evolutionary reason to stay with her.

But there is a moral one.

That is all I'm giving this bad bait btw.

Wow, this is a fairly impressive argument. Nice job, user.

A fat assed black girl keeps trying to "muh pussy" me, literally told me she wants to have children with me about 50 different times. Latched onto me and calls me over and over every day until I pick up and go spend some time with her. But I don't want to racemix.

Why couldn't it have been a white girl? Why God?

inb4 look at all the polygamist Muslim women comma with their hundreds of children sharing one father. I'm sure that one father has time for all his kids.

Those Muslim women sure are sluts amirite?

>But after doing so, there's no evolutionary reason to stay with her.
Ensuring that your offspring survive and are raised to maturity.

Morals differ with culture.

Also morals are a social construct that limits the success and reproductive potential of populations

If your offspring doesn't also have a chance to breed, then your genes still die even if you did reproduce.

You'd want to protect the woman during her pregnancy. And provide for them as the children grow up. Forming families is a good evolutionary strategy. And it's a good way to live for all involved. Which is what matters the most, all that evolutionary crap is kind of a ridiculous way to look at it at the stage of development we're at.

And then feminism happened and there's more and more single mother parent and mass immigration is used to make for the low birth rates. Our culture as a whole is no longer fit for survival.

Absolutely false.

As soon as humans moved from a mostly collective raising mentality in hunter-gather tribes, and formed civilizations with homes, they quickly learned that two parent families were most beneficial towards the growth of children, mentally and socially.

nice try. if i weren't stoned af i would try to prove you wrong but I'll just say you are wrong.

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>>But after doing so, there's no evolutionary reason to stay with her.
>Ensuring that your offspring survive and are raised to maturity.


You can offset this by having more offspring.

Also in a modern society, the state takes care of single mothers so there's no real reason for the man to stay at all.

Feminism is a double edged sword. It gives women more power, but also gives them more power to take care of themselves without the man, freeing up the man to have more children, which were taken care of by the state.

In some ways feminism is actually ideal for men.... because it allows them to move back into their normal evolutionary tendencies.

Quit trying to justify your degenerate behavior nigger

>animals dont do it so we shouldnt do it

Not if the offspring don't survive. A welfare system for single mothers is economically detrimental and should not be encouraged. Feminism == "empowering women in traditionally oppressed societies"

In the West, feminism is empowering women to raise children on their own, freeing up men to have more children.

It's ideal for population growth and the production of a under-educated lower working class.

Families don't work.

Why do you think Muslims and Africans are outbreeding white Europeans despite only coming to the region relatively recently?

bad argument considering most women since the 60's onward to now will be on the pill or not want any children these days. getting anyone pregnant is a stupid idea for a man's actual self needs economically as well as emotionally, and even if a man was lucky enough to find even 1 woman to reproduce with and it rarely would ever work out with 1 person then why would you then believe you had any chance with anyone else unless your a black guy in the hood wearing gold and don't care about the life of your child. your thread is flawed and extremly inconsiderate to fathers who care about who they sire.

Fourth-wave feminism, sure, but it sure as hell isn't traditional feminism. Turns out families actually do work, whether or not you want to accept it. There isn't evidence suggesting that families dint work. In fact, rates of depression are skyrocketing in Japan with males who work too much to start families. Muslims and Africans "outbreeding" can be attributed to a dangerous cultural shift promulgated by oppressed peoples.

nothing lowers the reproduction potential more than adults who then were fatherless children since they could die and had horrible lives have daddy issues and without any contact with an male figurehead in the house and because of this then go and land in jail and therefore can't have any children themselves. this thread is so stupid fuck you op

Or just have problems in general.

>Pregnant women are horny

Father here. What the fuck are you talking about? Pregnant women feel like shit and don't want to do anything.

Dead beat dads make whore coal burner daughters. The only way to unwhoreify women is to make daughters who see firsthand that traditional patriarchy is natural and healthy.

SATAN TRIPS REVEAL ALL

Modern Harem mane.

I have several children(all boys) from several woman. I work abroad so they can never catch me lol but they're all in socialist nations with good support. Some beta will raise them,but if they are like me they will big strong and agressive.

0/10

EAT THIS APPLE REEEEEE
>faggot masterrace reporting

I'd rather stay with her and raise my children as the way I was raised. So they will be a helpful members of our society.

Nice try jewish liberal

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>Modern Harem mane.
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>I have several children(all boys) from several woman. I work abroad so they can never catch me lol but they're all in socialist nations with good support. Some beta will raise them,but if they are like me they will big strong and agressive.

This exactly. Your Alpha genes will, prevail over those of beta men who may raise children but never have any of their own

depends
sometimes they get horny if they're having a boy
usually they dont though

>marriage is a feminist concept

No. Feminism has set out to destroy marriage and the nuclear family. But your point is still valid. But the reason one man-one woman marriage is beneficial to men is because it's immeasurably valuable to civilization as a whole. Without the institution of marriage, we just reflect nature where 20% of men get 80% of women. Marriage and children tie a man's interests with the interests of civilization as a whole. Enforcing marriage as a social norm allows every man the opportunity to pass his genes and thus incentive to participate in society.

Yeah... Look how children, especially boys, fare when they don't have good men to raise them.

13 year old op hit maxium faggot mode.

So same sex parents to their children are just great until we grow up and become magnets and how do they work. Boys play with boys who need their fathers. Then they fuck women for some reason.

>having the man stay around is just a social construct to tie up men into relationships.

Wrong.

ALL studies clearly demonstrate that kids raised in a family with a father AND a mother do better in every aspect of society, from schools, to employment, to not being a criminal, than those poor bastards raised in single parent homes.

Part of the reason blacks are so fucked up is because they allowed their families be destroyed by "dem programs" that give females money for having kids without being married and having a father to raise them.

Whites are going down the same road.

Incorrect. Marriage was invented by beta males.

Without marriage only alpha men get sex and betas get none. Betas invented monogamy so that alphas could only get one girl instead of all of them and then each beta also got one.

Without marriage alphas fuck everything and betas get nothing until the betas rise up in rage, kill the alpha and then go on rape sprees.

What's wrong with surrogacy

>Single mothers are a good thing

what the fuck happened to you to make you this fucking wrong?

>implying theres any good that can come of living with the knowledge that your own child could have a high risk statistcally to be aborted

>implying there's any good things about making bastards when statistically in the charts and graphs and numbers it makes a society turn to shit.

>implying your not trying to ruse us into a hell pit

Alpha and beta is for dog dicks. If alphas were alphas they wouldnt get killed by anybody no matter what they did. By betas especially. But this happens all the time. We are not animals

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>>implying theres any good that can come of living with the knowledge that your own child could have a high risk statistcally to be aborted
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>>implying there's any good things about making bastards when statistically in the charts and graphs and numbers it makes a society turn to shit.
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>>implying your not trying to ruse us into a hell pit

T. Salty beta cuck stepdad

Blah blah blah. Sex is part of nature. Culture is a human art and convention. Raising children is how we pass on both genes and culture. When a man abandons his woman (see: niggers in the ghetto), he passes on only his genes, and the children without a father figure degenerate into savages without culture. When a father raises his children, he passes on both his genes and his culture, both physis and nomos.

nice shoop

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>Yeah... Look how children, especially boys, fare when they don't have good men to raise them.

Lesbian marriages.

Marriages gives betas motivation to partake in society because they don't die as foreveralone losers. Now that the infrastructure is all built, they want to invite dumb arabs and niggers to replace them at their jobs with bottom tier wages.

Yeah except the man needs to be there to be a good example for his children, otherwise shit would have gone down the drain a long time ago.

I am using alphas for a term in place of saying "the most sexually desirable males" because that takes too loke. You know what I mean.

Just look at r9k. That place wouldn't be overrun with virgins complaining about never talking to girls if marriage was still the norm and the expectation was that men don't try to fuck women who aren't their wife and women didn't fuck anyone who wasn't their husband.

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>>marriage is a feminist concept
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>No. Feminism has set out to destroy marriage and the nuclear family. But your point is still valid. But the reason one man-one woman marriage is beneficial to men is because it's immeasurably valuable to civilization as a whole. Without the institution of marriage, we just reflect nature where 20% of men get 80% of women. Marriage and children tie a man's interests with the interests of civilization as a whole. Enforcing marriage as a social norm allows every man the opportunity to pass his genes and thus incentive to participate in society.

Interesting point. This begs the question if there are Societies in which marriage is not the norm, and in which men do not contribute to a child rearing. And how do they do?

Historically, the upper class had the resources to not raise their own children and have multiple wives. They seem to have done fine.

The 80% of men who will never marry or reproduce still continue to participate in society to support themselves. Where are pressured by the state to participate.

fag

thats only your opinion.

and whi is this here is if doesnt have any political correcness on the matter.

Depending on each society.

>Morals are a social construct

I have a huge problem with this, the idea that morals are subjective and humans can create values, and that ethical standards of different cultures differ so widely that there is no common tradition at all.

The answer is that is a lie - a good, solid, resounding lie. If a man will go into a library and spend a few days with the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics he will soon discover the massive unanimity of the practical reason and morality in man. From the Babylonian Hymn to Samos, from the Laws of Manu, the Book of the Dead, the Analects, the Stoics, the Platonists, from Australian aborigines and Redskins, he will collect the same triumphantly monotonous denunciations of oppression, murder, treachery, and falsehood, the same injunctions of kindness to the aged, the young, and the weak, of almsgiving and impartiality and honesty. He may be a little surprised (I certainly was) to find that precepts of mercy are more frequent than precepts of justice; but he will no longer doubt that there is such a thing as the Law of Nature. There are, of course, differences. There are even blindnesses in particular cultures - just as there are savages who cannot count up to twenty. But the pretence that we are presented with a mere chaos - though no outline of universally accepted value shows through - is wherever it is simply false and should be contradicted in season and out of season wherever it is met. Far from finding a chaos, we find exactly what we should expect if good is indeed something objective and reason the organ whereby it is apprehended - that is, a substantial agreement with considerable local differences of emphasis and, perhaps, no one code that includes everything.

dont know if this is b8 or you're really just stupid

But women are either shitty for men or they're not. I heard science is making male eggs

define beta and alpha.

Read a good book, by Desmund morris, The naked monkey.

Its far more complex than that. its more ofa biological need, becuase women can detect more smells, and see more colors, that gives her the advantage in chosing food.

ITs more of a convenient thing to do, to pair up. Even if you dont marry, there are ppl who live with each other just by convenience.

Funerary cannibalism and ice-floe euthanasia. Man can never interpret natural law. God makes natural law. This is why common law is shit. The Mosiac code was a civil law system

he is right.

morals differ with culture.

there are cultures were there is a third gender, they are man, but they are seen as women, and they marry them as women.

In the eyes of a degenerate everything will look like a penis or a clitoris.

Nice copy pasta

In this analogy alpha means men who are sexually desirable by females, successful and attractive men.

Beta is men perceived as less desirable or flawed by females.

wow, you're fucking stupid.

We see the psychological damage and criminality increases that happen when women are left, impoverished to raise their kids.

Additionally, unlike most animals and mammals, human children are not able to function and live in a well meaning manner ( our societies standards now, not caveman times) .

This was the dumbest post ever; spoken like someone gone full retard on life and unable to make human connections and raise children in a proper, manly fashion. No man wants useless, retarded children tarnishing his good name and hard work because they were raised like apes.

Either a welfare Nig or a Sharia sand nig wrote this post.

>Where are pressured by the state to participate

brotip: ideas like this give you the ones who will never take that kind of state seriously and their participation in it seriously for any meaningful reason and will know they are outsiders participating in something they are not part of, will typically consider it a joke.

Also,
>Its far more complex than that
Obviously, I'm simplifying an idea for a concise explanation for a large audience. I'm not writing a fucking book or scientific study. I'm just expressing a thought in a simple way.

Is english your first language? What are you saying here you dumb leaf.

its like the news.

they are bots, or proxys who work here.

When you come here, you come to get endocrinated.

lol damm millenials man, are you a btard or just not stupid?

ITs a good book. i read it when i was your age maybe.

Desmund morris, the naked ape.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Ape

True intellect dont try to prove itself to others.

The Naked Ape, which was serialized in the Daily Mirror newspaper and has been translated into 23 languages, depicts human behaviour as largely evolved to meet the challenges of prehistoric life as a hunter (see nature versus nurture). The book was so named because out of 193 species of monkeys and apes, only humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) are not covered in hair. Desmond Morris, the author, who had been the Curator of mammals at London Zoo, said his book was intended to popularise and demystify science.[1]
Morris further stated that the more rounded shape of human female breasts means they are mainly a sexual signalling device rather than simply for providing milk for infants.[1] Although the book's subject was the many behavioural consequences of the evolutionary transformation from forest-dwelling, mainly vegetarian creatures to carnivorous hunter-gatherers, reviewers predictably focused on the sexual aspects.

Morris attempted to frame many features of human behaviour in the context of evolution at a time when cultural explanations were more orthodox. His explanations failed to convince many academics for that reason, and also partly because critics charged that they were based on a teleological (goal-oriented) understanding of evolution. For example, Morris wrote that the intense human pair bond evolved so that men who were out hunting could trust that their mates back home were not having sex with other men, and suggested the possibility that sparse body hair evolved because the "nakedness" helped intensify pair bonding by increasing tactile pleasure.[2] Like many other writers in the late 1960s and 1970s, Morris warned against the "population explosion" (a term that originated in the 1940s) in terms that seem exaggerated and apocalyptic with the hindsight of almost half a century. Overcrowding, he thought, might cause terminal damage to heretofore relatively stable social structures that humans had evolved in the long course of their development.

Shut your face you mexicunt I don't give a fuck about reading that book.

Why don't you express an idea of your own instead of pointing me at some book without even giving a brief summary of points contained with in,

I'm probably older or the same age of you. You condescending fuck.

>trying to promote the prevalence of single moms

nope


you are just a kid.

You're a fucking retard.

i am everything you want me to be, i can be your whore is that calm your rage manchild.

or maybe i can be your father.

Because single moms are such stellar parents.

Shut up faggot.

fi fai fo fum i smell fuckboi

so why you hate mom? and why you hate women in general?

Hmm you really are some special kind of retard aren't you? I would debate you if you actually made an argument

>buh but there are some cultures that don't do that!
>here I won't cite them for you!

What copy pasta?

Fuck off taco nigger

Nigger logic at its finest, OP.

Is this a bait thread? You can't seriously be this dumb.

> marriage is a feminist concept
That's beyond retarded.

>The good of the kids doesn't matter
>You will die
>Nothing matters
Nice try pessimistic nihilist.

Optimistic nihilists only ITT.

Are you a bot? You seem to be unable to follow a simple conversation

My girl friends pregnant now, she's always horny. And her tits have gone massive.

>be like a nigger and don't raise your kids goyim

>libshits
>caring about family
Are retarded?

just look at the capital leters, you didnt miss not even 1.

so its a copy pasta. Years of experience back me up.

A whole comunity back me up.

you should have spected us.

Remember to take lots of pics man.

Especially of the tits right after she gives birth. They will be the biggest ever. First pregnancy is the sexiest pregnancy.

You will thank yourself for the pics later.

>Because single moms are such stellar parents.
How do you figure lesbian parents then?

rk9 quality. but you know nothing of it.

Bullshit. The most masculine thing you can do is fuck another man in the butt. When you fuck a woman you are just showing the natural dominance of males over females. But when you fuck a man in his ass, you are showing your male dominance, not just over another male, but over nature and God themselves.

blame zapatero, not family values.

I'll bear that in mind.

It's all down hill from then til it's 18.