Is sleeping on a futon degenerate...

is sleeping on a futon degenerate? my old bed caught fire when a laptop charger exploded and i've always wanted to try it

It's cool at first but you end up really missing sleeping in a bed eventually

t. A FUCKING WHITE MALE in Japan

No, Japs do it and they are honorary Japanese

sweet, it was actually not a bad purchase money wise. if it was expensive i'd never have considered it

Only dogs sleep on the floor.

I bet you're swimming in pussy in that futon

How's English teaching? Is it worth it, being away from the degeneracy here?

Sleeping on a framed futon is an ultimate degeneracy. Floor futons like the Japs have are as based as German Shepards though.

fleeing to a country that doesn't want you is degenerate

h-hahaha yea man of course

Eh, it's ok. Helps my back a lot but it's not as comfy.

no i basically sleep on a futon. But i'm also trying to move. The japanese idea of futons are meant to save space for living quarters. Since Japan is a FREAKING ISLAND. The idea of devoting a whole room to just SLEEP is ludicrous. So during the day the room is living in and the futons are stored in closets, at night the futons are rolled out and its sleep time.

Doing this in a place like America or Canada, or Europe, or even australia is a JOKE since you have so much LAND you can easily devote a whole room to just sleeping.

Emulating japanese tradition for any reason outside of following japanese tradition because you are japanese OR raw practicality is STUPID AND WEABOO.

Koreans do it. But they all have heated floors. For some reason we still use HVAC like neanderthals

>my old bed caught fire when a laptop charger exploded

Lol wut? Was your laptop made in Pakistan, and why was it in your bed?

futons are not very comfy, their frame dings into youre back, i always woke up sore.

I sleep on the floor. Pretty comfy. Different part of my body stay in the same horizontal plane.

>STUPID AND WEABOO.
not going to lie i am a massive weeb i'm not even ashamed about it though it improved my social life a lot

It's really boring. A lot of foreigners get worked to death here in shitty English cram schools, but I got a job in a comfy public school in northern Japan where I do absolutely nothing but sit at a desk and shitpost from my phone for 40 hours a week. It's really luck, tbqh. I'm just doing this to date qts and save up for grad school

Weak amerifats. Sleep on concrete one year. Grow strong like ox. No complain bed sore like grandma.

Aren't futons tolerable because you're on tatami mat with a springy wooden floor? I wouldn't have high hopes for trying this on western construction.

one russian on here was talking about how he sleeps on a wooden bench, i think traditional bedding is a meme basicallyit sounds like people can sleep on just about anything

>implying
I want to go to Alaska, bud. Nippon is too urbanized for me. I'm just curious about how John ended up over there.
Sounds like shit. Are the nips as racist as I'm inclined to think they are? I hope they don't fuck up and allow niggers to multiply.

Also, do you even speak Japanese?

shit what brand laptop charger? im afraid of laptop chargers now

Hokkaido?

>asking for Sup Forums's permission to do something

I agree. I'm a massage therapist. I've worked on over 15,000 people. Guess who never had neck or back problems ever. Not one single Asian.

Sleeping on floors is excellent for your back

it was a toshiba netbook, i don't know why i think the cable frayed a bit. scared the fuck out of me though i mean it was pitch black and then fucking bam

holy shit, how did you put it out lol? did you document it with a call to emergency services? i feel like you could fucking sue toshiba for that

shit what if it had been in a different room and you fell asleep and woke up to an entire house engulfed in flames

They are designed to be used on tatami, not hardwood/thin carpet over concrete. 2/10 experience, not comfy

great...so soft beds are for pussies? Shit..like...why is life like this. Why is everything good somehow bad for you.

CANDY BAD
BEER BAD
MEAT BAD
CHEESE BAD
SOFT BEDS BAD


i swear just live in the forest and fight mutant spiders every day all day, eat raw coffee beans and sleep on a slab of steel and you will live to be 250

Also pillows are jewery. Put your got damn head level with your body. Just like when you stand. If anything you can use neck support only.

>traditional bedding is a meme
everything is a meme designed to sell you something. you can sleep on the ground if you have to, so anything more than that is a product that someone has designed to give comfort in exchange for money.

i slept on a yoga mat on a tiled floor for 6 months and slept perfectly fine. only had a thin top sheet on top of me because the temperature was so hot. think about what your grandparents grew up sleeping on and whether that was good enough.

i sperged the fuck out and dumped 3 waterbottles i had on the drawers nearby, dampened a towel with it and managed to smother it really quickly. it actually ended up not being so bad

i actually didn't even think to sue but that's probably a good idea

I had some pretty bad back issues a long time ago and I heard sleeping on a futon was better for your spine so I went out and bought a futon. It's actually surprisingly comfy especially if you sun it frequently plus you can fold it up and store it which creates more bedroom space. In the end my back issues resolved themselves but I'm not sure if it was because of the futon or because I also started doing squats and deadlifts to strengthen my back+core.

I sleep on the ground with 1 blanket and some pillows and I am a degenerate. Had an air mattress but it deflated last year and I never bothered pumping it back up.

>you can sleep on the ground if you have to

no. Europeans sleep in raised beds because northern europe is fucking cold/damp and if you sleep on the floor you will literally die from pneumonia.

I sleep in a water bed.

You fuckers don't even know comfy.

>Sounds like shit. Are the nips as racist as I'm inclined to think they are? I hope they don't fuck up and allow niggers to multiply.
I mean, it's pretty boring but I wouldn't say it's shit. The money is good, especially for the complete lack of work I do. And the only racism I've experienced were people kind of freaking out when I would enter stores and stuff because they're worried about speaking English. I did have one drunk old guy come up to me and start ranting about how much he hates Chinese/Koreans while he kept calling me "gaijin" (but in a friendly way, like an Aussie saying cunt) Then I went full Sup Forums and the made him so happy that he bought me two beers and paid my tab.

I have never seen a black person in my town and the last one I saw in Japan was a love African tourist in a big city last month.
>Also, do you even speak Japanese
Not perfectly, but I can hold conversations
Miyagi (near Sendai)

actuall, a big part of it was i weight about 380. so i dont think that helped, am 250 (im 6'5)now, lay on floor when back aces for a bit fell better.

hybrid memory foam/coil mattresses, its like sleeping on a pile of blankets.

*lone african tourist

>falling for the sleep lying down thing
>not sleeping in gravity boots

Are you five?

BUGS ON THE FLOOR
CRAWLING ON YOU
WHILE YOU SLEEP

Kek. Godspeed, user, and good luck over there.

It's hard to wake up everyday on a mattress on the floor.

Nips don't mind it because they're animals.

thats the one reason i coluldnt do it. the money is fucking horrible. its basically minimum wage in USD. i have student loans and a car payment, the 1800 a month is just not enough.

am a little jealous tho. still feel conflicted. will be visiting in feburary tho.

I sleep on a pad in my walk-in closest. i's great because no windows so super dark and super quiet, very comfy.

Why are there bugs on your floor?
Also have you ever seen a bug climb a wall? Is your bed coated in teflon? Pretty sure they can climb your bed

Jesus. Why not just crawl back in mommy's womb when you get sweepies?

> Is ____ degenerate?

Brainless faggot, think for yourself

I really dont wanna know what a weebs social life is, but i will say, a futon is a good buy, cuz when you have the money for a white mans bed then you already have a guest bed bought

>has electrical fire
>doesnt secure power and dumps water on live power

Not when you're young, but remember, "off the floor by 40".

Yea. In the 12th century. Also cold/wet doesn't cause pneumonia

Thanks famalam
I make 2800 a month roughly (I don't have to pay taxes for two years either) but that's because I have a solid resume. If you're just a pleb with a basic bachelor's degree in something irrelevant and don't speak a word of Japanese, you'll probably make 1800 and work your ass off. It really seems like the more qualified people are here the less work they do (regarding ESL at least)

Like that doesn't happen with a normal bed. And it's not that bad, it's not like you are in australia or something

Yea no shit it was weight. Good job losing it

how cosy is a kotatsu?

>laptop charger caught on fire
lol

If it's comfy, who cares. I slept on the mattress I was conceived on for like 10years until the springs started stabbing me through the worn fabric.

If i was a weeb i would want a bed like this

yeah i was the latter, unfortunately,.i don't like teaching either so i wasn't going to spend money to take a CELTA course or anything else

Used to have constant neck and back problems, changed nothing about my lifestyle except sleeping on a folded blanket with no pillow, all sleep problems and back problems gone

reminds me of japanese porn

Passed the fuck out face down in my own barf at a Halloween party on some hardwood floor. Woke up with my ribs feeling like they were stomped.

I've been sleeping on a futon for years and years, it's pretty comfortable BUT-
if you have a hard wooden floor you probably need to get a pad to put under the futon because they're usually meant to be used on tatami flooring which is softer than wood.
If you are extremely fat the futon will also probably not provide enough cushioning and you will have sore ass and shoulders, loose some weight.

>frame
>futon
>frame

I think we are talking about Japanese futons and not your weird IKEA sofa things

I slept on a futon for over a year. It was comfy as fuck. Something about being closer to the ground made me sleep better, perhaps because it was cooler there.

Futons are just fine, though you may want padding under it like mentions.

My parents kept trying to make me sleep in my bed, and I'd end up curled up on the floor where it was comfortable. Futon was the compromise and I was quite happy.

I sleep on a bean bag nowadays, though. Also a very comfy not-a-mattress option.

I had some... domestic problems... at one point and ended up sleeping on the floor with nothing at all, and woke up with the stomped ribs feeling like mentioned.
I discovered that a sheet of cardboard or two can make a huge difference in comfort, it wasn't exactly comfy but I didn't wake up with pressure pains under my hip and shoulder blades anymore, plus it makes a fair insulator because of all the air inside.
It crushes eventually but depending on quality it can last a while.

futons are cool, if you dont mind rats gnawing on your face in the middle of the night. :^)

>living in America

Hahahaha what a fucking idiot.