It's been 2 years. Did you like it?

It's been 2 years. Did you like it?

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Never seen it.

previous premise was more interesting

Me neither. It’s been sitting in my backlog for months now.

Honestly, after seeing the concept art for this movie, I love the city itself more than the actual film

A rather dull story in a somewhat interesting world.

they were afraid to scare off possible audience.

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I loved it, probably my third favourite CGI Disney flick behind Smash It Sam and Tangled.
And no, I don't even wanna fuck that bunny.

Recently saw it on Netflix.

It was alright but that's all. There wasn't something special about it so I wonder why it got popular.

i enjoyed it

> why it got popular.

on furry porn sites, maybe.

havent seen it

I liked it, whens the sequel?

It's for 10 year olds, not obese 30 year olds.

>box office over a billion

Furries are strong

>previous premise was more interesting
>Predators are forced to wear collars in Zootopia.
>They deliberately stay there.
>End of the movie has the two main characters shrug and no change is made.
Am I missing something of substance?

I swear to god if you ran a business that catered to furries youd be rich - those people have endless pockets

interesting, not good.

It was a Disney movie. It was good, enjoyable, but didn't take chances and felt safely profitable at the end of the day.

Yeah, and I want to fug the bun.

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>$32,262
>per month

>didn't take chances
I don't know. I thought Judy being secretly prejudiced herself was a ballsy move.

lmao what

HOW

I liked it - the main thing I was impressed with was how they portrayed a mature issue for all ages. Honestly didn't think it was possible

Furries man.

I have an artist friend who relies on commissions to supplement her income. She draws furry commissions because they pay stupid amounts for the OCs to be drawn and she has to turn down commissions frequently because she gets so many.

pixar told them to use stereotypes instead of collars or privileges.

i wish we got the mickey-roger rabbit buddy movie instead

I don't understand the appeal of OCs and no I mean ALL OCs even the human ones. The only way I can tolerate OCs is if you're planning to make something truly GOOD out of them. You know like how at one point I imagine Miraculous Ladybug was an OC super heroine. And ultimately it did became a fully fledged animated cartoon series. There you go. But pointless OCs that you and I both know amount to NOTHING? Why pay money for that?

Yeah I mean its kind of a running joke between me and my e-buds that furries just have endless pockets. I wish I wasnt surprised at that dude making 400k/yr off of furry porn, but I am. I should have known better.

Sounds like your friend has a sweet gig though.

Sweet gigs do not last forever, something's gotta give.

I mean assuming that your friend enjoys drawing its not that bad. No ones job is truly enjoyable.

I imagine drawing furry porn isn't exactly what they had in mind but if they can pay the bills with something they somewhat enjoy - more power to them.

cool world, ok story. nothing particularly amazing but not bad either

sort of like the emoji movie, which you guys made out be the worst film of all time but was just meh

Haven't seen

the r34 is good though

The only movie that's both blue and redpilled at the same time.

pretty neato.

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that whole exchange is pretty standard for a plot like this.

When you listen to some of the featurettes about the making of, the creators never thought about prejudice in the way they ended up portraying it. So it was pretty ballsy.

No, the movie was going in an okay direction until it subverted it's own message halfway through.
>durr you can't judge animals on stereotypes
>look the little bunny can be a police officer too
>whoops predators are dangerous, gotta judge everyone on stereotypes again
>nobody learns anything in the end

I actually started getting angry discussing it with my cousin after he got me to watch it. The only good thing about the movie is the comic that it inspired, I Will Survive.

yeah, they wanted 1 to 1 allegory: preds = dindus prey = evil oppressive majority

lol wut? they were drugged to be dangerous.

Yeah that was stupid too. It really had three plots that never really meshed up:
>Judy overcoming prejudice to become a police officer
>Dealing with a society in which one group is oppressed by another because the first group seems/is dangerous
>the conspiracy to make the predators look bad to seize power

It was just too much. They should have stuck to just one thing.

I didn't like it much due to the clear mammal bias. So many times whenever any sort of animals are involved, mammals are the heroes and every other type of animal is either arbitrarily absent or evil.

National Film Registry addition when?

I like the porn.

I loved it when it came out and even if I've cooled on it a bit it's still my favourite Disney film

Wasn't anything special. And it was clearly written by someone who has never experienced racism before.

it was written by liberals.

Yes

Why, because it wasn't another generic "Whitey bad, rah rah women and blacks" film?

It was a more nuanced and realistic take on real racism, the kind that exists in the real world.

The amount of detail in the movie pleases me greatly. You can freeze frame damn near any moment in the movie and find a bunch of fun extraneous details most movies wouldn't bother with, such as Nicks police academy application.

It's message on racism was muddled and didn't actually explain anything. The fact that the whole incident comes down to a conspiracy makes the themes of overcoming prejudice feel shallow. The third act was a cop out.

and this is why CGI >>> 2D.

And having pretty much all the stereotypes be true

Because racism doesn't work the way it does in the movie. The whole predator/prey thing is just nature, not negative traits we assign to groups of people we don't like. It would be like black people having a gene that makes them steal, or jews are compelled by their biology to accrue wealth.

I thought it was all pretty clear, both with Judy and Nick's story focusing on overcoming prejudice and going past what others expect of you.

Judy is a savior

Or the fact that it is a conspiracy makes the theme of overcoming prejudice more important, as said prejudice is actively being exploited.

>It would be like black people having a gene that makes them steal, or jews are compelled by their biology to accrue wealth.

How? The whole point was that both pred and prey stereotypes weren't true.

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So the whole movie was about how the way your ancestors acted doesn't mean you have to act that way too, right?
But what about those wolves who can't stop howling? Or the sloths? Is that saying that some animals CAN'T overcome their ancestral natures?
Wouldn't that mean the general message that predators are in fact more dangerous than prey true and that Sly Fox and Rabbit Cop are the exceptions not the rule?

Its flaws have become more pronounced over time. For one, the soundtrack is fucking terrible. One of the absolute worst in the Disney canon, which makes no sense seeing how it came between Frozen and Moana.

Secondly, Shakira's cameo is given a surprising amount of screentime and reference despite being by far the worst part of the movie. She has like 2 lines of dialogue and it's quite possibly the worst delivery in any american animated movie ever, like holy shit, this is why contractual obligations are cancer.

And finally, while I like the third act and the villain twist and all that, they way she's defeated just doesn't maintain the same level of quality or creativity as the rest of the movie. Recording her as she needlessly explains her evil plan, like fucking really? It works with the Penguin because he's a deranged fucking lunatic but bellwether was a devious mastermind with a great plan and logical reasoning for doing what she did. They could've done that better.

>The whole point was that both pred and prey stereotypes weren't true.
Except for when they are, i.e. sloths/wolves/polar bears

The sloth stereotypes weren't true. I get the feeling the creators wouldn't have had that in the movie if the DMV jokes weren't so damn funny

>DMV jokes weren't so damn funny
I think they issued a recall on your sense of humour because it's clearly defective

Did you idiots watch the fucking movie? In the end they catch that Sloth for speeding, and he tries to play it off by acting slow.

He was speeding because he couldn't take his foot off the pedal fast enough.
He was still biologically locked into this nature, despite having a fast car

Not from the MC. In any other movie, the apology scene would have been from Nick to Judy.
How many movies about prejudice, aimed at kids mind you, have the MC be both a victim of prejudice and prejudiced him/herself?

So what you're saying is that it's all just an ACT? That at the DMV they're all just pretending to be slow? That's sick, user. That's fucked up

>have the MC be both a victim of prejudice and prejudiced him/herself?
That aspect of the movie was fine, what it did wrong was that it starred furries, not people.
We KNOW animals and we KNOW animals can't overcome their nature
You can never make a cat a vegetarian. It will always want to hunt.

By making it a blacks=predators whites=prey thing, it's implying, that even though Nick and Judy learn to accept each other, Nick had to overcome his true nature and that he needs to fight against it.
It's not really saying that all people are equal. It's saying that some people are inherently savage but they can fight against it

Social conditioning, user. Why even try?

He's using his biological shortcomings to go fast. Sort of how like Judy used her small stature to bust thieves.

Or like how predators use their violent nature to be criminals.

Nonsense, it's saying that both predators and prey are dangerous. Which is true in real life too, nature's biggest fucking assholes the Hippo is a herbivore.

Give me a random herbivore than a random predator, mate.

>It's not really saying that all people are equal.
That's my point. The movie isn't as safe as some as suggested because it didn't treat the matter like it was a simple black and white heh issue.
Preds and prey ARE different. The movie makes no attempt to hide that fact. They can coexist peacefully and respectfully, but they are not 1:1 the same.

the MVP is the tiger on the train.

All ideas of prejudice or stereotypes vanish when I look at him and realize predators aren't inclined to be aggressive

>The movie makes no attempt to hide that fact.
I disagree with that.
What about that scene where Nick freaks out about Judy looking scared at him?
The movie treats that Judy's reaction was wrong and totally unfounded

>actually implying there's no personality traits shared between races

I'm pretty liberal too but come the fuck on. Genetics are a real thing, if for instance you had a practicing predator a few steps back in your bloodline, as much as you try to hide it that will still make up a small part of you and people will judge you for it. The world Zootopia portrays isn't supposed to be 100% our own, obviously, it's just there to draw parallels to it, which I guess isn't enough for some.

>*Sees your boat passing by three miles away*
>*Swim-rams it and bites you in half*

I saw it in cinema back to back with Grimsby cause I felt like seeing both of them and they turned out to both be on right after each other. That was a fun evening.

It totally is. Did she expect her best friend Nick to fucking eat her? What a bitch, she's even had special training to keep her cool.

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>Did she expect her best friend Nick to fucking eat her?
Did you miss the part where
1) She just met Nick a few days ago
2) Nick is a criminal that she's blackmailing into helping her
3) It's saying that predators are going uncontrollably savage

No, it's not fucking wrong to have a moment of doubt

You're wrong, Judy brought her fox repellant long before savage was even a plot point. Nick opened up to her yet she still treated him like a monster, if anything it shows that prey are scum of the earth.

Stop trying to make me want to fug the bunny. I don't want to want to fug the bunny.

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>she still treated him like a monster
She treated him like he was a stranger who was twice her size and has a genetic disposition to eating her.
So like a rational person.

If there was a species of 12 foot tall people eating monsters living on Earth, I'd carry a god damned gun, even if we had a peace where we intermingled casually.

i miss the old threads when the movie first came out

Thankfully most people aren't as dumb as you are. Nothing in the movie suggests predators have a genetic disposition for violence - Once more, preys are equally dangerous, just like in real life.

Whatever you want.

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They were comfy and apologetically furry

It's aboit how you need to work through your own flaws, even if some of them are ones you can't control. The movie very cleary demonstrates that all animals are in some way slaves to their nature, but the lesson is that you shouldn't let that stop you if it's something you want. It's so blatantly obvious when Judy graduates top of her class on merit and effort alone, never asking for any freebies or for lowered standards. From the very beginning she fully undertands that it's going to be harder because she's a bunny, but chooses to let that harden her resolve rather than look for excuses. It's so upront in the movie I'm amazed most people sum up the only lesson to "lol racism is bad k?"

Best fanbase ever.

I do miss how comfy they were - before the movie had been pretty much picked over for every detail.

Took me two years to watch it, first time last week. I liked it but it could've been better. Usually I don't give Disney shit a chance.

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Why do people still talk about this movie. I can not understand it.

Forget the bunny, I wanna fuck that bear, god damn!