/altleft/

How do we meme this movement?
What will our policies be?
Can we have an altleft President in 2024, similar to altright winning 2016?

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How are all those building and ships going to get built?

Define alt left.

that pic is where the left and leddit are going to live when VR becomes somewhat decent around 2024 or someshit. While the right are going to make the world great again.

Enviromentalist.
Build megacities so most rural land becomes wilderness with the exception of farms.
These megacities will be powered by nuclear energy.
Abortion on demand in non-white ghettos, but restricted in white havens.
Weed legalised but regulated.
Rampant capitalism in megacities to divide the rich white elite from shitskin underclass, but banned in government owned pristine wilderness, where humans only can go for tourism and tramping, and areas set aside for camping.

Alt-right united the game-changing cultural critique of neoreaction with the meme power of daily stormer. do you think this shit came out of nowhere?

One world government, most earth's surface is national parks, but megacities are designated pure capitalism zones to create a natural divide between races.
abortion and euthanasia encouraged in shitskin ghettos, frowned upon in white elite suburbs.

>alt-left = national socialism

imagine if we could harness the bernout asshurt about retarded shitskins voting for Hillary and use it to splinter a left wing "whitelash"

You just basically described the US.

Leftists will hang on the day of rope. Kek wills it.

We need the USA on steroids though, combine rampant enviromentalism in rural regions with encouraged rampant capitalism in urban regions to create paradise on earth.

How will we meme this to reality? The only way to save the white race is for capitalism in cities to create a huge socioeconomic divide to keep them separate (except white guys impregnating brown whores on the downtime) and the only way to save the enviroment is to expand national parks and protected areas big time to create huge pristine wildernesses.

>Build megacities so most rural land becomes wilderness with the exception of farms.

So...rather than have urban farming, you chose a feudal system. Who gets to live in futuristic mega cities and who gets to farm all day?

>Enviromentalist.
>These megacities will be powered by nuclear energy.

Pick one.

>Abortion on demand in non-white ghettos, but restricted in white havens.

So...not much changes.

>Weed legalised but regulated.

No issue with this but if everyone smoking it, who designs the ships and buildings? I'm guessing its just for the farmers, Amirite?

>Rampant capitalism in megacities to divide the rich white elite from shitskin underclass, but banned in government owned pristine wilderness, where humans only can go for tourism and tramping, and areas set aside for camping.

We have this now. Your not trying to make sense are you?

Regulators gonna regulate.

This.

Just move to China and live the altleft now.

>tfw joked about creating a militant left movement whilst in late high school
>have eastern euro background and hated how aus worked when i first came here
>had a website hosted on cjb.net and everything
>multiple students were interested and i didn't see it as a form of radicalization
>got in trouble at school and with police
>parents divorced and moved apart
>had to move cities
>dreams of a militant left fell apart
>grew up
>realized i was right in being angry and wanting change
>I was just on the wrong side
>12 years later
>progressive left stronk in aus
>fighting for all the wrong reasons
>just a bunch of over entitled, indoctrinated, middle class art kids posing as freedom fighters
>social rights movements for just about every cause
>aus is even more disgusting than before
>blame myself every night

>tfw still have my speeches from highschool
>cringe every time

Either high or being absurdist.

>Who gets to live in futuristic mega cities and who gets to farm all day
Whoever likes farming, most will live in cities though for job reasons as capitalism is restricted outside of megacities.
Nuclear energy is the best renewable energy.

>china
>altleft
Authoritarian antienviromentalist regime is the antithesis to the altleft.

Part of Sup Forums thinks that the /altleft/ should be just an exaggeration of the crazy SJW bullshit.

It should not.

Learn from the Jew. Control both sides of the debate. altleft should be a white-friendly left-wing movement based on criticizing elements of Trumpism (environmental policy), dismantling the bureaucratic security state, socialism/socialist democracy, and anti-globalism.

What if we want a globalist government governed by whites over shitskin masses stuffed in megacities? We need capitalism to keep the race divide, and we need rampant enviromentalism outside these megacities to save the ecosystems and the planet.

> globalist government by whites over shitskin masses stuffed in megacities

That's practically what you have right now. All you'd need to do is replace the jews at the top with whites. Dream of something better.

Post a speech for kek ausbro

>So...rather than have urban farming, you chose a feudal system. Who gets to live in futuristic mega cities and who gets to farm all day?
How is that a feudal system? A small percentage of the population will live on rural land. They will be farmers using technology to produce at an efficient rate. It's pretty much what's happening in the USA already.

>Whoever likes farming.

>Most will live in cities though for job reasons as capitalism is RESTRICTED outside of megacities.

What if no one likes farming? Communism. Regulation.

>Nuclear energy is the best renewable energy.

I'm pro-nuclear but even I know the popular opinion is that isn't true at the moment. It would possibly be a much more powerful solution and would give mankind a massive jumpstart rather than burning coal or going to ineffective solar panels. Wouldn't you rather go for something crazy like cold fusion or zero point energy? Dark matter? Anti-Matter? Something like say pulling energy from the worlds natural electrical fields through some sort of tower thingy?

>AUTHORITARIAN antienviromentalist regime is the antithesis to the alt left.
>RESTRICTED outside of megacities.

How do you expect to do this without authoritarianism?

No one gives a fuck about you or your cause.

Except our ecosystems are getting destroyed, we need to save them by implementing hardcore enviromental policies outside cities, expand protected land, and power cities with nuclear power

>implying Pence won't be President in 2024

FUSION U FREAKING FOSSIL

FUSION AND WATER!!

oh boy this one


The time for change has arrived friends. It is time once more to give the power back to the people, we have been bereft from our rights too long. With unity comes power, the people united will never be defeated, its time to rejoice what we have yet to accomplish. Our aspiration for change is too strong to ignore, our leaders today have not lead us to freedom or given us the sanctity we deserve, but have leads us to war for the advantage for upper class prosperity, they have asserted us to physical anguish by lowering our wages, taking our rights, increasing our taxes, all in their favor. We are led to believe that our tax dollars are being put to our children’s educational future or our medical systems, there is no truth to this, only the ambiguity we do not see, our tax dollars are being invested in big corporations so the upper class investors reap the rewards. We have unknowingly abstained ourselves from our rights of freedom, but why, why do we sit at the bottom of the financial chain, because we are asserted to, we have no rights like we are led to believe, no freedom of speech, no legal justice, no working rights, we live in a democratic capitalist system where we have endless opportunities but these opportunities can only we explored and benefited from if you have the money to invest in them in the first place, so it will only be the upper class who gain the benefit while the working class have a 40 hour working week and a $500 - $800 weekly salary. This system obviously does not work for the working class which makes up more the 75% of the population, which is why we feel aggrieved about this, because you have done this to us. Our system infrastructure is designed not for the working class who contribute most to this country, but for the upper class who are adamant they can keep the working class under control.

bare in mind i was in my mid teens when i wrote this, circa 2005

Until you have the fire of liberty under your ass the left will never be successful without parlor tricks and smokescreens.

Channel Alex, but don't be evil

youtube.com/watch?v=PY_CmhnC4dA

>What if no one likes farming
What kind of question is that? There are always people who like farming.

>Wouldn't you rather go for something crazy
We need to start with what we have now, that technology will come when it comes. In the meantime we encourage nuclear power big time.

DIE IN A FIRE BILDERBERG

IM ALL FOR THE CAUSE OP

WE NEED FUTURIST TO ARISE

AND PUT FORTH THEIR IDEAS AND BLUEPRINTS TO LIGHT
LETS START BUILING

IM HOPING THERE
ARE EYES THAT SEE

>yfw alt-left successfully takes over the south

My farts smell like pumpkins.

I'm not sure what the point of that speech was.

Well, they are wrong…they have belated our actions for too long. Its time for us comrades to agitate for our rights, we will either attain them by peaceful negotiations or, our alternative, a belligerent revolution. Militant left is bastion in defending the working class; we will support the working class until we blight the situation to our benefit. The connotation of Militant left will inspire with courage and bravery, we unlike others who have tried to bring about political change will not be evasive to the government in fear or hostility, because the are easily persuaded by riches and have materialistic views. The biggest enemy is the one you ignore and the oppressive law of our government will no longer be tolerated, and we will purge them of their totalitarian power. Militant Left is not just a left wing organization dedicated to the return of a socialist state; we are here to engage in class war and equal out our rights.

Fight for freedom, engage in class war

ahhh wow i was a misguided kid, but alas 12 years later and my teenage dream came true and turned to be a nightmare

theres no such thing as alt left. leftists have always been sheep falling in line with their masters. all their "leaders" are hacks and fraud like bernie, tyt, jon liebowitz, etc.

>What kind of question is that? There are always people who like farming.

Will they have access to megacities and their own ships? Why not just have robots do the farming?

>We need to start with what we have now, that technology will come when it comes. In the meantime we encourage nuclear power big time.

Who says we don't have some of that now?

OK I got something. The alt-left has to be savvy to technology. This accords with left-wing thought in history and it's the one thing the alt-right misses, ignores or refuses to discuss. If considered at all, the alt-right will just answer by saying that we can discard any of the ill effects of technology by just not using that technology, but that isn't really realistic. Here are some areas:

- nuclear proliferation. Alt-right basically doesn't care about this, saying it's inevitable. well it is inevitable, but that isn't an answer to the problem.
- mass communications. Cultural integrity will be lost no matter what in a couple hundred years, even if everybody stays in their country.
- transhumanist type shit. It's autistic, but this stuff IS happening, what we're doing right now is this in action.
- labor automation.

The alt-right's answer to all this is just abolish it, but you can't abolish technology itself. You have to deal with it, and that's a task leftists have always been interested in. That gives the alt-left something to be other than a vaguely non-idpol left.

look into getting
SYD mead on board with Trump on
American Re-infrastructure
& Environmental Design

please do your research and
acknowlegde this IMMENSE opportunity
to lay out the foundation of

TLDR manifesto.

fuck off you CTR prick.

Nobody wants another anonymous that will be co-opted to lead us back to globalism, corruption and enslavement.

Kill yourself
Leftism will find its way into the fucking grave

>Alt left
>how

1. Remove identity politics.

2. Abolish the concept of race by refusing to recognize it as a talking point.

3. End the use of leftist buzzwords and -isms; example: "Revolution" "Comrades" "Oppression" "Capitalism" "Socialism" "Communism"

of absolute prosperity and
amazing innovative evolutionary
progress of human history

Fusion isn't a thing yet. We will use current nuclear energy in the meantime.

Who maintains the robots?
Still need development of those energy sources before implementing nationwide, in the meantime we utilise nuclear energy

Absolutely this. alt-left is preparing for the future. alt-right ignores tech advances that will change the world, they only think about the now.
We need to strategise longterm so we don't turn into a dystopian wasteland of a planet with roving savages.

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what is alt-left? alt-right is a meme.

How dare you try to merge the timelines! Trump won. Deal with it.

This. Bail thread.

>Build megacities so most rural land becomes wilderness with the exception of farms.
awful

We meme globalism.

continuing, we have this idea of futuristic technology that's associated with Elon Musk, Amazon drones, Netflix, etc. It's all this unsatisfying, global liberal capitalist thing to just deliver us more entertainment and flatten the world out for maximum profit. Leftists have been making fun of this already, The Baffler has a lot of articles making fun of these people. We're living in the most crazy advanced technological time, so why do we have such a depressing idea of the future and technology? It should be the best time for real leftists, and maybe it can be.

I think the alt-right and neoreaction was a response to this unsatisfying state of affairs, that chose to reject it all and go backwards. But the left response should be to see a way through all of this.

elaborate please?

Build robots to fix the robots. You don't get robots do you? If robots are programmed to create and build other robots, then why couldn't the maintain said robots? If they have A.I. , why couldn't they fix themselves?

I can help myself. I want to leave but this is absurd.

"alt left" would have to do the same things that the alt-right did

>pick up anti-globalist sentiment
>mix with old-school right-wing idea that are neglected my mainstream conservatives (nationalism)

so the alt-left would have to be some kind of anti-globalist communist movement? which doesnt make any sense since communism is internationalist by definition.
maybe anti-globalist anarchism? that´s less contradictory, but anarchism is retarded like extreme libertarianism, and wont attract many people.
that leaves you with some kind of watered down anti-globalist big-state socialism. that's essentially what nazi germany was, but nazi germany relied on strong nationalism and ethnic pride to create the social cohesion and internal unity necessary for big-state socialism to work. since those are right-wing ideas, your "alt-left" would face major opposition from all kinds of leftists and likely not attract many people at all.

Apologies for typos. Absurd. You're trolling. I know it.

Bail.

It's human nature to flight when under fear.
This is what alt right has done, ran back to the past to solve issues, conveniently forgetting the past created the issues that we see now. Altright will only cause another reactionary sjw libcuck movement and the cycle continues while civilisation and the planet gets destroyed.
Alt left is fighting this eternal cycle of destruction, we create new ideas to better humanity in an age more technologically superior and more populous than any before it.

Alt-left=sjEw's

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That pic is the perfect example of why the "alt-left" will never be a political force.

The "alt-left" (or what would be the alt-left) are basically a bunch of autistic redditors who think that they can build a post humanist utopia based on science yet these people know nothing about scientific progress other than what they heard from Neil Degrasse Tyson and that Asain guy who speaks about the future.

As an actual scientist and a actual leftist you guys make me cringe on the daily

>This is what alt right has done, ran back to the past to solve issues, conveniently forgetting the past created the issues that we see now.

the issues we see now are the result of globalism in general and leftist globalism in particular.
both of those are explicitly anti-nationalist, so picking up nationalism to oppose them is a pretty straightforward and logical conclusion, don't you think?


>we create new ideas
i havent seen a single 'new' idea yet

I thought the altleft was communism?

The alt left is called social science academia and no one gives a flying fuck about it

Our AI isn't that advanced yet, stop thinking 2036, maybe think 2016.

>Neil Degrasse Tyson and that Asain guy who speaks about the future.

Tyson worked for Bush admin. No one likes to remember that. Dr. Kaku is the asian guy.

The current elite is right wing, stop falling for memes that liberals are progressive
If they were truly progressive they would truly save the ecosystems by implementing nuclear energy en-masse and expanding national parks, rather than taxing carbon out of greed.

Kek

>Our AI isn't that advanced yet.

How do you know?

I'm done.

Regardless they're both shit tier "famous scientists" who like to make social commentary.

Wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them

I feel like the alt left would be more of an anti-authoritarian anti-establishment group, if we want and actual alt left it would have to be white friendly. The economics part could prob at done through stuff like worker co-ops or worker owned firm models.

That seems counter-intuitive. It seems like you're talking about total personal liberty, something akin to social anarchy. In such a society, the only economic model that could match that much social liberty is free market capitalism, hence the logical conclusion of your ideal system is ancap.

>I feel like the alt left would be more of an anti-authoritarian anti-establishment group

it's called anarchism. and it's pretty unpopular, mostly because it's just retarded.

What about rejecting Marxism, or at least distancing from it a lot? The leftypol and zizek-fans type are all into theoretical Marxism but they seem to be getting nowhere with it. Are there non-Marxist left-wing ideas that are better worth building on rather than have to salvage the mess of Marxism in the 20th century?

im telling you boys its guns

get all the democrat victim groups to start arming theirselves

women, LGBT, muslims, hijabis, disableds, elderlys, any victimized group or alternative lifestyle, they become armed, they become equals when someone trys to R A P E them or a group trys to gay bash them

then they realize, wait, the people i vote for fucking hate freedom and are retarded to support gun control

then they are like wait all the people i voted for are jews

Why would you want to change things when we will be living in a utopia? Do you believe that you will literally be tired of winning?

If nobody likes farming, then the demand for farmers (and thus the money that could potentially be earned as one) rises until the demand lowers.

Thus, there will always be farmers.

>Nuclear energy is the best renewable energy.
nuclear is not renewable. The fuel is broken down.