Why is Western Animation lagging behind Anime? The US had hundreds of years of head start AND they didn't get nuked...

Why is Western Animation lagging behind Anime? The US had hundreds of years of head start AND they didn't get nuked. How can they regain their place on top?

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You have to take into account that much of anime doesn't look that great. Outside of the biggest of big name series, a lot of corners get cut to push an acceptable product out quickly. Some studios even tighten up the art (and decensor stuff) for the Bluray releases, which is an aspect of the industry that doesn't really exist at all over here.

Beyond that? Cultural differences, I guess. Many animes have very similar styles, creators don't seem to want to individuate and stand out quite so much as they do over here, so it's probably easier to attract talent that can faithfully reproduce the creator's designs. That, and I think the peoples of many Asian nations are much better at hunkering down and getting mind-numbing shit done than we are in the West. If you've ever tried animating you know it's not exactly fun.

Anime is insurmountable

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1. Asians are very good at things that require insane attention to detail and professional monofocus.

2. Asian societal norms teach them to be good at performing repetitive, monotonous tasks and pushing through them. Animation is repetitive and monotonous to work on.

3. Japanese animation was inspired by Disney but developed independently from it. Disney, for all his genius, sort of pigeonholed animation (as far as general western audiences see it, and will accept it) into a single genre, something only exacerbated by the entire renaissance period being basically the same film over and over. Animation is only just now recovering from this in the west.

4. Japanese live action has historically been underfunded. It's easier to do more fantastical stories in animation.

5. Nuke radiation probably causes super animation powers I guess?

Why are her eyes so big?

The reason they hardly ever get touch is the general audience in west don't appreciate the trades and crafts and just want to be entertained. Look at Laika studio who has had 4 major stop-motion animation movies, each one breaking new ground and doing things no one has seen with stop motion, all of them heavily advertised, all with high critic praise, viewer praise, star power, and yet, their highest grossing of those 4 was their "weakest" at trying new things and breaking the mold (Coraline) at 124.6 million, just at double the production cost.

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gotta say reading the while watchingwas a pretty interesting experience.

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>hundreds of years head start
>on animation
>hundreds of years

Pretty funny, but also pretty disingenuous. We all know what OP means, and that that sequence is quite the cherrypick as far as QUALITY goes.

holy shit. this episode. what happened?

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Her grandmother was an anime, she's a quadroon (quarter toon.)

>Japanese animation was inspired by Disney but developed independently from it. Disney, for all his genius, sort of pigeonholed animation (as far as general western audiences see it, and will accept it) into a single genre, something only exacerbated by the entire renaissance period being basically the same film over and over. Animation is only just now recovering from this in the west.
>Implying 90% of anime isn't substanceless shounen garbage or high school moeshit

Western animation sells either through merchandising to kids via toys and such (which is getting harder and harder with the popularity of video games), or through ratings with older viewers (who don't care about the quality of animation and just care for brainless comedy).

Anime caters either through the masses via heavy advertising (Gundam is basically the modern Transformers; a franchise that exists solely to sell model kits), or by pandering hard to the Otaku crowd who will shell out lots of money for ridiculously overpriced blu-ray sets or models of cute anime girls with huge tits.

There's usually only three big shounen at one time, and they can be of multiple genres. Moeshit is, rather thankfully, lessening.

Either way, it's pretty easy to notice that there's far more diversity of genre in anime than american animation.

Alternatively, some anime series are designed more or less as several-episode advertisements for the manga or light novels they're based on. Sometimes these will go on to be successful in their own right (for example, Konosuba), but even if they're not hugely profitable by themselves they bring in interest for a wholly different product.

Anime/Manga has multiple audiences from old to young. Where in the West watching cartoons over the age of 10 is considered to be abnormal & frowned upon. It’s same thing with comics, the “main audience” is suppose to be kids, but thanks to Big Bang Theory it’s now in eyes of mainstream comics & cartoons are for kids & basement dweller nerds.

Actually it's because Japan got nuked that they have such a headstart

>America is the only Western country that makes cartoons

Canada is even worse.

France is OK, if you like gay shit.

>AND they didn't get nuked

Perhaps that is the key
Kim Jong Un will bring an animation renaissance

>Outside of the biggest of big name series, a lot of corners get cut
Eh, the no names tend to get better treatment to be honest.

western tv animation has never and will never be a peer of tv anime

Maybe drawing isn't as exciting to westerners? Seems like us westerners are occupied in other things for hobbies.

Americans ban other Adult Americans watching cartoons, that aren't Walt Disney agenda movies.

Because it's treated as a medium only for children. Anime has programs for all ages. Some for little kids, others for teenagers, some for adults. Some are for men, others for women. And it has a wide range of genres as well.

Cartoons in america meanwhile, are thought of as being ONLY for children, and SOLELY as comedies, which are thought of as a "low" form of entertainment.

There's a public attitude problem towards cartoons in America which will take a generational shift to overcome.

>The US
>regain their place on top

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Well because cartoons cant be waifus of course, that's the rule.

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They make Emma Stone look cute.

Workers unions and the idea of a minimum wage. Asian animation is cheaper to make and quicker to make because you can't argue about working conditions or pay, you just need to pump it out in order to make enough money to live.
Other than they you've just got the big movie studios that are about the same in the east as they are in the west

Well, there are some Asian studios who pay higher wages for their animators than most Asian studios.
I don't know most of them but from what I know, Studio Ghibli and Hideaki Anno (whether he was in Gainax or Studio Khara) do their wages this way.
Which is why Studio Ghibli doesn't into animation series and Evangelion had to resort to storyboards, stock foorage, and a photograph of the recording script during the last two episodes of the original TV run.

Getting rid of conservatives and soccer moms.
They want us to go back to the 1930’s where showing a woman’s ankle is equivalent to showing her cleavage.

>but now it's just Sup Forumsshit!

I like how you thought this was the board to escape from that.

Anime has always had their cookie cutter cost saving style like America did, aka Hanna Barbera. The difference is it was visually interesting to look at while Hanna Barbera cartoons are all the same and even lazier than their contemporaries

Now the new American cost saving style is CalArts which looks worse than Hanna Barbera style and doesn't have nostalgia to prop it up.

They are all lagging behind france anyway, so eh

Literally not a single person on this planet gives a crap about France

Maybe Japan needs to nuke America. Horishima and Nagasaki style.

lol the liberals are on this track now, since the money's in puritanism with #metoo.

Anyway OP I laughed at 'Hundreds of years head start", solid bait.

What is even the most popular anime these days?

Place on top of what? Anime is popular because it's easy to steal and watch for free, it's not like anime studios racking in cash.