What did DC circa 2008 mean by this?

What did DC circa 2008 mean by this?

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1. Its a reference to the original and asinine concept for Black Lightning being a racist white man who turns black under stress
2. Its a take that to Bendis for his black people fetish
3. The second to last panel was originally Bomber asking if he could say the n word

Shit, this is like seeing Obama crackin' wise about Trump at that dinner. DC killed themselves and they didn't even know they were doing it.

This is kind of funny though
Is racism so toxic to media that it can't be presented in a whimsical and very obviously sarcastic and mocking tone? Is it better to write characters that hold prejudice towards others even though that is much more realistic and impressionable?

McDuffie flinging shit at Bendis.

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The fat bald guy is obviously Bendis before his deadly MRSA infection.

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Was it Mcduffie or priest who did this? Cause this totally seems like a Priest move considering he straight up sent Marvel that Teenage mutant Negro Skaters letter

>Teenage mutant Negro Skaters letter
I'm pretty sure that was also McDuffie.

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Oh shit, my bad. This letter is still funny as fuck

I don't get it. Do the american blacks not enjoy the skating of the boards

I can live without the skateboard, but I really do need a white attractive female friend to keep me from chimping out.

>Obama mocks the idea that US citizens would be dumb enough to vote Trump in
>US citizens collectively agree that proving a black man wrong is worth shooting themselves in the foot

I don't think the joke is on Obama in this one user.

There's nothing really wrong with this. It's poking fun at the fact that things seen as racist have a radius of cringeworthiness, where people feel collectively embarassed.

You may as well try and dox the videos of youtubers egging on fights by imitating frat bros, then stripping down to banana hammocks just before things get ugly, to see shit go from fight to 'confused man runs away' very quickly.

It was the 90s, skateboards were consider poochie tier.

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If I remember correctly Brown Bomber was an actual character and McDuffie was just having some fun with it.

No, but some alt right guys are that sensitive.

Gender is a choice but race isn´t

This will never make sense to me.

that's pretty hilarious

I wonder what his origin story would be like

He got shelved before he got released. Black Lightning got the push instead.

Trannies are mentally ill. Any attempt at tranny pandering makes no sense because they only make 0.3 percent of the population.

No shit.

I mean why is it okay to these people to change your plumbing, but it's not okay to change your race? Today, Michael Jackson would be "celebrated" for being a woman, but nobody would accept him being a white woman.

considering the united states economy is currently booming and all that "progress" that obama made during his tenure has been exposed as a steaming pile of crap...

You're wrong. Voting Trump in is definitely working.

Enjoy your nuclear wasteland.

Not to fucking mention we may actually see something happen regarding Best Korea. We've been dick waving with them for fucking decades, and we're finally in a position where there are going to be actual fucking talks. Just the fucking fact that this is even happening is the biggest fucking news on that front since the motherfucking 1950s.

Michael Jackson had a skin disease (vitiligo) that causes a loss of pigment on sections of the skin. He bleached his skin once it got too bad so it wouldn't look so patchy, not because he wanted to be white.

He was definitely a little crazy with the plastic surgery though.

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If you don't know why entering trade wars with the fucking world is bad for the economy, you should fuck off and stop voting.

>vitiligo
That's what people say. But in all honesty, does plastic surgery only work in one direction? He couldn't pay to have the patches that lost pigmentation to be artificially darkened? Cause I don't buy for one second that that is impossible.

He picked a direction and ran in that direction, hard and fast.

Tanning doesn't work the same way with someone with vitiligo (it's a big problem with white people who have vitiligo), and the other option (tattoos) looks like shit. Do you know of another method that was available in the 80s/90s?

>and the other option (tattoos) looks like shit. Do you know of another method that was available in the 80s/90s?
No. Tattoos were exactly what I was thinking of, but if they looked like shit and wouldn't accomplish the goal then I guess that answers the question. I wouldn't have expected there to be a problem with tattoos, but now that you mention it I really wouldn't know.

In any event, while I'll concede on Michael Jackson, my original question still stands.

BLACK POWER

You don't know much about North Korea do you? They do this a lot. First they threaten, then they talk, other countries give them aid for some empty promises, then they go back to doing what they've always done.

Honestly, what do you think Trump is going to do that hasn't been done before?

Talk to them as a sitting president of the United States, which would be the kind of validation that Best Korea has been looking for for decades, which would allow them to back down on some of their nuclear posturing internally while still saving face because they can spin it as being a huge fucking political coup - we were finally recognized as an actual country on the world stage by the planet's super power.

That's what is different. That's what has never been tried before.

Lmao, sure buddy, American validation is all they ever really wanted. Now we can finally have peace on the Korean peninsula.

I won't argue that it'll solve anything. What I will ask, in all earnesty, is what is the worst that could happen? We go back to exactly what you described? NK fucking over promises and building nukes? Great. Nothing fucking changed. It's the same status quo we've had since the 1990s. But if that kind of validation has even a 10% (fuck it, let's say 1%) chance of derailing a war scenario, what is the harm of trying?

I am genuinely asking. What is the harm of trying?

Supply side economics only works in the long run, user. We're currently seeing the effects of Obama's economic policies. Trump's economic impact won't be apparent till the end of his second term, if he gets one.

Trump can easily make things worse. Have you ever seen him talk?

You’re correct, union workers should absolutely stop voting.

This is one of the most offensive characters I've ever seen. He should join Section Eight.

Makes it worse how?

>NUKES LMAO

Trump makes things worse by talking. Not only that another user already pointed out this is NK main MO. You must actually be underage because I fucking remember North Korea pulling this exact shit since forever.
But nah for some reason Trump will actually make a difference. Even if he has 1% of a chance. You are going to take it like some naive fucktard who discovered international politics for the first time.

By being a dummy?

>Trump's economic impact won't be apparent till the end of his second term, if he gets one.
I doubt this is true. I know for a fact that international tourism took a serious dive after his grand standing right at the start of his term and never came back and he could very well set off a trade war that will bring the pain sooner not later.

Of course that's all peanuts compared with the damage he's done by making it clear to every other nation in the world that you can't trust any agreement you make with an American leader to last past his last day in office.

You know how Bush rekt America's international rep? Then Obama took 8 years to fix it and even then America's rep wasnt as good?
We need another Obama or Bush Sr to fix that shit. I do mean Bush Sr, Bush jr was a dumbfuck.

>You must actually be underage because I fucking remember North Korea pulling this exact shit since forever
Yeah. With the MO that we've had of treating them like a fucking non-entity. Do you remember 10 years ago when American journalists were imprisoned in NK? We sent Bill Clinton there directly. And those journalists were released the same fucking day. We have historical proof that often what NK is looking for is just validation on the world stage. NKs MO is to say shit and do the opposite, but that has always happened with us either using low-level bureaucrats or talking through Sweden. A sitting President has NEVER engaged with them. And we already know that we got exactly what we wanted when we used an ex-President. So this is an entirely unknown territory that could possibly achieve quite a lot, because it has never been fucking tried.

He's literally the cause of escalating tensions.

>I doubt this is true. I know for a fact that international tourism took a serious dive after his grand standing right at the start of his term and never came back and he could very well set off a trade war that will bring the pain sooner not later.
Okay, let me restate, then. Any benefit of Trump's economic policy won't be felt until the last years of his term, assuming he wins reelection. You can crash the economy overnight, but recovery always takes years.

We probably need 2 or 3 two term Presidents that have a consistent foreign policy to fix all the damage that's been done to the State Department. Trump really fucked that up, we still don't have Diplomats appointed to many countries after over a year in Office.

This is all true, however I'd be more confident if the talks weren't being conducted by a man whose previous interactions with NK have included childish nicknames, fat jokes, and not so thinly veiled threats. Somehow, I can't picture him suddenly becoming a great peace maker.

cnn.com/2013/10/29/world/asia/north-korea-nuclear-timeline---fast-facts/index.html
Yep. It was Trump's fault that the program kicked off in earnest in the 1990s when they ditched the NPT. They fucking HATED his Atlantic City casinos.

Again, this fucking shit isn't new this year. It's been going on for DECADES.

Yeah, that's a great signal to send to rogue nations. If you want something from the US, just build nukes and threaten our allies. Then we'll give you whatever you want.

Perfectly fair. I can't argue against that whatsoever. All I know that is even if it's a fucking madman at the helm, I'm interested in seeing what could possibly happen with a complete change to the policies that we've had for half a century.

It's fucking worked for Pakistan since the 80s. Don't act like this is new. We just pretend it doesn't work.

Congratulations, you've discovered that tensions with North Korea were already high. That should make it clear that Trump isn't helping when he escalates tensions even more with statements like these:
> "North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Trumptold reporters from the clubhouse of his golf course in Bedminster, N.J., where he was being briefed separately on the opioid epidemic. “They will be met with fire and the fury like the world has never seen.”
>Trump added that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un “has been very threatening beyond a normal state, and as I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power, the likes of which this world has never seen before.”

>because it has never been fucking tried.
Making the Purge legal hasn't been tried but I can tell you thats a dumb idea. You are a dumbass if you think that line of reasoning is a good idea to try new things.

Yeah, and? Four months ago I would have agreed. But apparently engaging with a dictator on his level is what was needed. They joined up with the Seoul Olympics out of nowhere (so much so out of nowhere that South Korean athletes were kicked from their slots to make room for Best Korean athletes) and now we're looking at a sit down talk between Un and Trump that was proposed by Korea.

I'm with you. I don't really like the methods, but fuck I'm not one to argue with the fucking results. Apparently being a fucking retarded cunt is what we all needed. We won't know until the talks happen, but the mere fact that they ARE happening is insane, and it's good news.

So we just continually beat our heads against a wall and do nothing? That's what you want? I won't even ask what that would get us. I'll simply ask what has that gotten us in all the years that we've tried it?

Isn't the Pakistan situation different? The only reason they get aid is because we don't want their nukes in the hands of religious extremists.
Not only that but helping the Pakistanni military makes it easier for us to deal with Afghanistan.
Otherwise making enemies with Pakistan makes it harder for us to chase after the Taliban who go hide there.
Whats funny is that the dumbfuck of a country is trying to court their own homegrown taliban to sow problems in Afghanistan for their personal gain but international polticking is complicated like that.
Turns out some of these Talibans turned their back on Pakistan and now the US has to send them aid so they don't collapse.
Classic circle of life.

We do the same sanctions shit mate. These things don't produce results over night. Look at sanctions at Russia. There are reports that Putin is feeling it but that country hasn't caved in. They doubled their efforts.
Are we just going to stop because they didn't cave in within 2 or 3 years? That's not how it works.

Would you settle for a tubby high yellow with a very round ass?

McDuffie has nothing against skateboards
He just hated how an entire race can be regulated to a few selected character archetypes that were fueled by simple stereotypes and he saw it as stupidly limiting the opportunities that can be done with black characters

>The only reason they get aid is because we don't want their nukes in the hands of religious extremists.
And that matters why? They get propped up, they get our full support, and we don't say shit about the bad things they do (like harboring Osama Bin Laden for over a decade). Which in turn, answers the question of us working with them to fight the Taliban that flees to Pakistan. Why the fuck would we need to bother if not for the the nukes?

They have nukes, and they get what they want from us. And we pretend that we don't fucking placate them.

No, it's not how it works. But again, we've been doing sanctions for 30+ years. I don't expect an overnight change. Sanctions on Russia need time and could work. But I will not accept the idea that it takes an entire human generation to see results. When you reach that point, it's time to consider a different tactic. Yes, the most recent NK sanctions are new and haven't been done for more than a few years. But it's just more of the same. We're just doing what we've always done, and by this point they know how to play that game.

I 100% agree that trannies are mentally ill. The best treatment for this is to let them transition. If you tell them to suck it up and go be a man/woman/whatever they were born as, they get depressed and either kill themselves, or get even weirder.
I am trans and think this idea of trans identity and being proud of being trans instead of shutting up and being whatever you're transitioning into is retarded.

We'll eventually fix it by making being trans race a thing. Race is either 100 percent self reported, or we require genetic testing or nazi germany style race laws.

I would settle for more section 8 in general.

I would settle for a coherent general plan. Which nobody of any party seems to have at the moment.

You're misunderstanding me. I really don't give a shit if people are trans or not. It means the same thing to me as faggots who put those big-ass plastic rings in their ear-lobes - fuck all nothing. Do what you want, I could give a cunting shit.

What I don't understand and what I would really genuinely like to hear an answer to is the simple question of why is okay for people to change their sex, but it's not okay to change your race? I cannot fathom the difference. From my perspective, they are both as stupidly insignificant as having ear piercings. But a lot of people freak out about the race change while championing the gender change. I'm not talking out of my ass on this, I'm basing it on recent reality:
cnn.com/2015/06/16/us/washington-rachel-dolezal-naacp/index.html

Everything I ever read about the Rachel Dolezal story tells me that she's legit - she truly, 100% identifies as black. She has organized her entire life around that identity and worked for the promotion of that identity. But everyone I've ever spoken to treats it as something that is wrong on a self-evident level.

And I don't understand. Why is it wrong? How is it different? That is what I'm asking.

Speaking as a non-American I'd say you guys need a lot more than just a competent president. Between Trump, the semi regular mass shootings that you seem unwilling to actually do anything about, and the jingoism that seems to permeate your society America just seems more deranged by the day. Short of a massive societal shift I can't see much changing

>the semi regular mass shootings that you seem unwilling to actually do anything about
The funny thing is that they aren't new, unique, or even worse than normal. You can make an argument about our society in general, but that shit is about as old as the country itself. The news just freaks out disproportionately.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

There's no mental illness where if you don't turn yourself black you're at risk of depression and suicide. That's the difference. I don't know what to tell you.

So? Is every tranny truly mentally ill? In this day and age, are they are all facing completely mental breakdowns if they don't transition?

Fucking hell, just look at the fuckers that the media wants to latch onto! Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner. Outright murdered someone, and is still looked at as a "role-model". And he never even inverted his dick into a vagina-like sock. But fuck, whatever, he tried to look like a woman, good enough!

Seriously, I know what this sounds like. It sounds like I'm trying to fucking troll. I'm not. I am truly, genuinely not. I truly want an answer to this question. Why is one okay but not the other? I'm not even looking for something that I'll accept and agree with, I'm just fucking pissed off that for three years now I've just been expected to understand with no explanation at all!

I don't accept it. I'll accept your weird horseshit with an answer. I'll accept your fucking insanity. But give me SOMETHING to base that off of! I've been given links to neurological studies for transgenderism, and how/why they are mentally fucked. I can accept that. I do accept that. But I want/need the same thing for the race question. Why/how is that different? If it's not valid, then explain! I won't accept people just trying to tell me that it's different apropos of nothing!

The Pakistan situation is more complicated than that. We aren't grovelling at their feet. We can still dominate the government.
It's not like the government is malicious in thinking they can manipulate the US to get what they want.
They wanted to manipulate the Taliban and use Osama as a bargaining chip against countries and other terrorist organisations.
The reason the US doesn't jump in to destroy Pakistan right then and there isn't cuz of nukes.
Nukes are a nice deterrant but Pakistan has some alliance ties with China. A NUCLEAR POWER.
If you remember the US are a bit at odds with China as an emerging power.
Not only that but the US is equally at odds with India. Another future global super power that already has nukes.
As a result the US needs to prop up Pakistan not only for Afghanistan or internal problems but also India.

Global politicking is more complicated senpai.

Uh, you realize half that page is just shootings from this century. A third are shootings from the last ten years. And that list dates back to before the US declared independence. Did you not even open your own link?

I'm not trying to argue that it isn't more complicated. Hell, that's why we don't attack NK. Shelling Seoul notwithstanding, it would be a nightmarish bitch to deal with our US troops right on China's border. It's less to do with Best Korea than it has to do with China, to an extent in terms of the long-term policy.

And I get it that what you're saying is relatively the same thing - it's less to do with Pakistan than it has to do with China and India who are the bigger players here. But, while we're not grovelling at their feet, we are undeniably cow-towing to Pakistan because of their nukes, and because of them in a way that we wouldn't in SPITE of the larger Asian geo-political reality. Those nukes provide some serious power that we can't ignore.

Hell, just consider this. Assuming we wouldn't be trying to go to war with Pakistan, wouldn't we have a stronger and more definite relationship with India in defiance of Pakistan if they didn't have nukes? As it stands, we have to play both sides, despite our obvious interest in favor of India.

That's the distressing part, this shit happens all the time and you think the media is overreacting when it freaks out?

And did you look at the actual data? Yes, half the data is 21st century, but the numbers don't change. Most of that shit is still 0 deaths. It's just recorded better. This isn't new or interesting. It's how America works.

We had FUCKTONS of airplane hijackings before 9/11. But those planes took down buildings. So we fucking care about every single little incident related to airports now.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings
1 quarter of the list is post 9/11. Because we now care about listing every tiny little thing, even though nothing truly worth mentioning happening since then.

Like I said, arguing about our culture is fair and sensible. But to pretend that this shit is new and recent is illogical and insane. We've been blood-thirsty fuckers since we started.

I never said it was new, just that it's frightening that you guys seem unwilling to change it.

I am confused, the reason we chose Pakistan over India isn't because of nukes. It's more because Pakistan considers itself as India's rival.
The reason our interest is against India or China is because they are future global powers that can threaten America's global hegemony. Right now America is top cat but that won't be for long.
There are many papers even ones published by the CIA that predict that America will have to learn to share the globe with other super powers.
So our alliance with Pakistan is to make sure we have an edge against India just in case. Not because of Nukes.
Its the same reason we are working with Saudi Arabia. Keeping that regime up top is very important to keep peace in the volatile Middle East.
Hell the current attempts of modernizing the country and giving more women rights is the Saudis trying to curry more favour in being America's good side.
If the Saudi's think they can stay longer in power if they oppressed everyone they would.
Hell remember the last time Arab countries tried uniting and controlling the USA with their oil reserves the US completely obliterated their governments.
The US isn't anyones bitch contrary to your belief. They know when to dominate and when to be diplomatic to maintain themselves up top.

Not only that but thanks to the Tibet bumfuckerey China and India now share a border so western nations are essentially being forced to pick a side. As embarassing as Trudeau's bullshit was he essentially handed India like three quarters of a billion dollars and made it clear Canada was backing India. Meanwhile China's aggressive financial practices are gutting Canadian cities while Trudeau does nothing and local politicians do the same.

So the U.S. has to essentially play Pakistan against India while also playing India against China. At the same time they need to somehow make nice with Vietnamese communists for the same reason and worry about who is and isn't on what side at any given time.

Politics is basically a game where everyone pays everyone else to fuck over each other as soon as they can.

Hmm. Fair point. Thinking about it for a second, trying to divorce myself from my American mentality, I see the problem. It is insane.

I don't have a solution or even an idea. As an American, I'm just completely accepting of the idea that it's "part of life" to an extent. And yes, I get it that that idea is completely psychotic from an outside perspective.

Truly, I don't have anything to say one way or the other. I do firmly believe in the Second Amendment, but I understand that it's a bit hard to defend when people with no concept of why that Second Amendment even exists are looking inwards from outside.

Best I can possibly say is that I don't believe in race. I believe in culture. And America has a fucked up blood-thirsty culture. I don't think that guns really matter. Just look at Switzerland - everyone has to have their military rifle available and ready. Every single Swiss is armed in a military capacity. And they don't have American style shootings. It's not about guns or their availability. It's about culture. And American Culture is clearly fucked on some level.

shit id read it

The thing about China is that it's inflated itself to an absurd degree but is very clearly running out of money. They physically can not afford to run at the rate they've been running and even the average layperson can tell that at this point. China as the worlds top dog will never happen, or at least not for many decades. India's economy just isn't stable enough to be a real superpower.

The threat of India and China actually equalling the USA is still decades off.

>I am trans
No, you're just a weird faggot. Grow up.

I suppose I'm considering a different perspective. India will be a superpower. Why would we want to be counter to them? Wouldn't it make more sense to the US's longer term plans to play India as a direct ally that we've elevated to the Super Power stage? It's directly against our interests to start with them in that position from a possibly antagonistic perspective. We're not intending to be anyone's bitch, but we sure as fuck don't want to be Russia. Be friends with everyone up and coming, and ride their success to maintain our own.

>Trudeau
That's your problem, Canada. I want to like you, being our neighbor and ostensibly our brother, but you are a fucking embarrassing joke based on the choices you make.

And I fucking say this as an American where Trump is President! You fucking make us look us like sensible and intelligent people!

Yeah, you're splitting hairs that are really pointless. There has been 3 double digit school massacres in less than ten years, unless you count Newtown as a "durr hurr false flag". That's a significantly higher death toll than any other decade, in a decade with significantly higher number of shooting incidents than any other decade. This is new and it's getting worse.

It's right in the top part of the letter. At this point 1/4 of the Black Heroes in Marvel were running around on skateboards.

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And it's not splitting hairs when you realize that the numbers are ignoring non-gun related shit. Like the 1927 Bath School Bombing that killed 38.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
That's fucking well known. How many other disasters aren't included in the "school shooting list" because a fuck-motherload of people died to something that isn't politically expedient?

You are an idiot memer. Many Canadians who hate Trudeau know he's helped improve Canada's image.
Of course the current India scandal dialled that back a bit but Trudeau is loads better than Harper or Trump.
Heres hoping the conservative actually get their shit together.
That is unfortunately unrealistic. America and every super power in the past (like Rome or the British Empire) always considers what benefits it will get first. Thats how its always been.
If we pretend to be nice we will get betrayed or taken advantage of. That has always happened in human history since the beginning of time.
Trust me when I say that hundreds of agencies within the USA think its benfitial to get on top of India or China rather than befriend them for America's long term interests.
Let me give you an example from a minor power like Australia. They were complaining about the tarriffs and were prepared to join other countries to engange in economic actions against the US for unfair trade war.
Guess what, Aus backed down as soon as they were exempt. Even if its better in my heart that they shouldve teamed up with other countries to teach US a lesson in not being an idiot, they focused on themselves first.
Similarly US, China and India will always consider themselves first. Make no mistake, the US isnt the only one not playing nice.

>I would settle for a coherent general plan. Which nobody of any party seems to have at the moment.
At least Dems have an excuse, they control literally 0 branches of government. With full control GOP doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
8 years of Obama apparently destroyed their capability to govern.

>That is unfortunately unrealistic
Pretty much my point. I'm not trying to portray the US as noble and beneficial. We only care about ourselves and, as an American, I wouldn't have it any other way. But we're in a position where if we had the choice (India vs Pakistan) we would choose to "pretend" to be nice in a way that would suit our own self-interest.

I'm also the idiot memer. Not wanting to save face, because fuck that shit. I'm genuinely asking the question because as an American I'm trying to understand every other countries policies and failing. Trudeau comes across like a fucking worthless cunt, and I've not seen anything to dissuade me of that opinion. But again, I'm also trying very hard to understand English, German, South Korean, Russian, Mexican, Italian, ETC. politics in addition to the fucking insane clusterfuck of my own American politics. So, please help me understand why you like Trudeau (or don't and simply see him as someone who isn't a cunt). I'm not asking this question as a combative one. I'd genuinely like to know. It's important as an American to understand basic politics of every country out there, but it's really fucking hard to do so. Canada is easy to "ignore" being so close and making it seem like I can just make assumptions based on interactions with American politicians. Truly, I don't know the actual details of Trudeau in terms of Canadian politics. I know him in terms of interacting with Antonio Garcia, former LA mayor, who is a useless cunt on a level that defies expectation. Colors him for him, based on that association.

>And it's not splitting hairs when you realize that the numbers are ignoring non-gun related shit. Like the 1927 Bath School Bombing that killed 38.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
>That's fucking well known. How many other disasters aren't included in the "school shooting list" because a fuck-motherload of people died to something that isn't politically expedient?
Well, how many, user? You just want to put that question out there like you don't have a machine in front of you right now that can tell you everything you need to know. There's a link to "School Massacres in the United States" at the bottom of the page you listed. The reality is bombings and other methods of mass murder in schools are far less popular than the good ol' American kid-shoot.

I don't have a number. That was my entire point. We're looking at figures that spread across 200 years. I point out a specific example that dwarfs almost all of the easily identifiable school shootings in the list I previously gave, in order to make the point that it's worse than damn near everything else in that list but isn't listed because it doesn't involve guns. And my point wasn't to defend guns, but to point out that America and American culture is violent and homicidal, and we'll use anything available to us. This level of brutality and violence isn't new. It isn't unique to this era. It just is America. We. Are. Fucked. Access to weapons or not. It's a culture thing.

This is who we are. That is the point I wanted to make.

Every time someone mentions Dwayne McDuffie, I get really sad. I can't help but think the subculture is so much worse off without him.

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The thing is, while tragic, those three shootings resulted in only 65 deaths. To put things in perspective, the Newtown shooting accounted for 0.001% of all deaths, 0.08% of all firearm deaths, and 0.2% of all firearm homicides in 2012. 411 children aged 14 or below died from firearms in 2012, 337 died from influenza and pneumonia, a difference of 18%.

so you actually don't know and are attempting to fall back on memes. gotcha.

its a guy who isn't afraid of calling a turn a turd to your face. Seems like the kind that would get something done.

Cuba's been doing fine with all the sanctions. Countries will be fine without the USA, white boy.

And there isn't one for trans either, with the possible exception of the DSM IV. So all this shit is invented and decided by the people. go invent one for feeling like a nigger when you aren't.

It's a disease. The tranny shit. Not talking about the if you don't transition. I mean the you think you're something you're not. Same with healthy people who think they're cripples and actually get amputated maimed on purpose. Fucked hp minds. I don't mind as long as they stay out of the gene pool.