ITT: Post heroes that would be better off as villains, and villains who would be better off as heroes.
ITT: Post heroes that would be better off as villains, and villains who would be better off as heroes
Parker Jenkins
Jack Lopez
The Spot could actually be a pretty good hero. His power set would make him able to help a lot of people.
He makes for a lousy villain but he'd be a great support hero.
Isaac Watson
Moon Knight would make for a terrifying villain. If he follows his serial killer tendencies it could lead to a divine inspired slasher.
The Ghost would make a good hero fighting against the corruption in the system and dismentaling various conspiracies.
Hudson Martin
The joker being a funny version of the punisher would be awesome
Adam Ortiz
But this guy is the mutant hitler villain that died recently
Sup Forums should read more comics
Noah Allen
That's literally just magneto.
Elijah Hall
Name one time when Scott was a bad guy
Nathan Martinez
Obligatory.
Jose Ortiz
Sebastian Shaw is a villain who works better as a field leader style hero
Basically, imagine kinetic absorption Steven Seagal.
I think physical powers (can punch very hard if he absorbs enough energy), arent very good for villains, unlike telepathy or just being a super scientist.
He has also been a hero in many AUs
ill post some examples
Ryan Parker
Jean Grey for Villain and Juggernaut for Hero.
Jaxon Thomas
Ryan Wilson
David Butler
Bentley Collins
Well DC kind of made their own Spot hero called Sideways. So its something I guess
Julian Foster
this one isnt even an AU
everybody likes hero Juggs
Jordan Wright
He could escape from any jail, while Barda could never be jailed to begin with
Andrew Thomas
She's one of those characters who'd just fit. What with the leather, and the guns and the creepy white skin.
Julian Barnes
Get off Sup Forums Lex, dont you have a company to run?
Jose Collins
>Name one time when Scott was a bad guy
He doesn't need to be bad, to be a villain. He needs a reason to be a villain. And Scott got plenty of reasons to be an enemy of the x-men and Avengers,
James Jackson
Honestly, after reading his modern books, Wolverine. He would work way better as a villain than a hero. I feel like if the X-Men ever learned of even a fraction of what he willing did before his mind wipe, they'd kick him out of the mansion so fast that his skin would have burned off.
Julian Watson
"anti-hero" my ass, Deadpool belongs with the villains
Aiden Rivera
Wait, you don't want to make someone who's always right a villain. That's the kind of thing that causes all sorts of problems.
Tyler Morgan
Nathaniel Davis
Brody Fisher
Let's face it: Iron Man would be a god-tier villain
Hudson Stewart
Charles Jones
Nah he's very commonly a really shitty villain but mostly because they try to maintain the fact he's a hero in some respect but he's the fucking villain.
Michael Turner
Domino was a villain in AoA, one of the best assassins of Apocalypse, he sent her to kill Nate Grey
Dylan Hill
>implying
Villains who believe they're the hero are the best.
Christian Martin
But the story wants you to believe he's the hero and treats him as such.
DOOM is a fucking villain, the story treats him as such. The pretense is usually "how will DOOM fuck this up by being deep down shit at his core" whenever he appears to be doing something heroic and in the end is still a callous monster.
When Tony is the villain he's supposed to be morally grey and trying to do what's best and feels bad and shit. But in the end he's just being a fucking halfassed idiot. .
Christian Myers
She also could have easily killed Cable as well. Domino is really perfect assassin.
Tyler Gonzalez
Moonstone and Songbird respectively both need to be heroes. But they must also be forced to work together while being them. It makes for a great dynamic.
Dominic Clark
Ayden Jackson
Alexander Torres
But user, jean Grey IS a villian
Hunter Foster
>Comic book deaths counting for anything
YOU should read more comics.
Jeremiah Young
I agree but Marlel editors are too busy spanking it to idea of loli teen jean to realize they turned her into a supervillain without narratively acknowledging it.
Imagine if you went around killing people but everyone treated you like you're still good.
I want a full blown event where everyone realizes just how depraved she has been and we get some intra-mutant Telepath War.
James Foster
Evil/Dark Beast (AoA Beast) was a cool villain. What ever happened to him?
Juan Bennett
>mutant hitler
they said that a lot but they never demonstrated it
Easton Cox
Terra would work better as an antihero instead of a villain.
Leo Walker
Angel Murphy
Is there any mutant who isn't a real fuck up who do terrible stuff to the world?
Jose Williams
Despite the narrative of the x-men, I'd argue no. Pretty much every human who has gotten real power ends up fucking up somewhere. Which is why I argued for Juggernaut, whose entire purpose is to destroy things and he fought through that to help people.
Much, much harder than anything that most mutants have to deal with. Deadpool also has to fight a similar nature that he has a hard time controlling but at least they acknowledged him over the years.
They stole juggernaut's development and more people need to know about it.
Justin Hughes
Joshua Gray
Dominic Taylor
Landon Scott
Jacob White
Hudson Parker
Noah Richardson
Carter Martin
William Roberts
Jaxson Gomez
Ryder Morris
Christian Rivera
Dominic Roberts
Bentley Long
Adrian Cruz
Hunter Rodriguez
Why are they whitewashing Domino in that comic?
Evan Morgan
Xavier Scott
Ryan Hernandez
Tyler Roberts
Eli Anderson
Matthew Powell
Tyler Davis
Connor Gomez
Nolan Campbell
Charles Ross
it's been done
Logan Peterson
I wonder what a heroic Bane would be like
Elijah Hughes
>Diamond Lil
Who?
Austin Edwards
Vandal Savage could be a pretty badass hero if done right.
Ethan Sanchez
I would totally make a series where he makes his own superhero team with some real c-list heroes. He could have the funding and knowledge to train them, and when he gets involved you know shit is really about to go down.
Lucas Taylor
I always thought Vandal Savage was the kind of character who shouldn't be restricted to just being a villain but instead someone who should realistically try and play on both fields, considering all he wants is to stay alive and consolidate his power. Still undeniably a monster responsible for more evil acts than nearly any other villain in the DCU, but an agreeable monster with understandable motives who often saves people's asses and helps them fight a greater evil, either because it suits his ends or because he's gotten tired of failing.
Like a lighter version of Karl Edward Wagner's Kane.
Luis Harris
WTF I ship it and I want Ghost to be a hero now
Alexander Walker
Funny how Kilmonger in Black Panther is a better Magneto than Magneto.
Brandon Phillips
Stark should just say fuck it all and go full villain.
Julian Wood
He's a ghost wizard now bro and also a semi-ethnic mystery box of a woman if you count the new movie.
Levi Gutierrez
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NO
Joshua Gutierrez
>totally invulnerable guy with Hulk-level strength
What's the drama?
Elijah White
Please enjoy the Wildstorm title "Michael Cray," wherein a team comprised solely of diversity hires systematically kill every white male hero of the DC Universe. So far they've taken out Green Arrow, The Flash, and Aquaman. Next up, John Constantine!
Julian Lee
Shut up, Marvel. You tried so damn hard to make Cyclops into a villain and failed so miserably you had to kill him off. Twice, just to make sure it sticks.
Know when to give up.
Evan Moore
He spent most of his good 'era' losing his power. And still fighting, so neither is he invulnerable nor is his strength comparable at that level.
Matthew Gonzalez
He would be a big hero
Lincoln Cooper
>The joker being a funny version of the punisher would be awesome
>he just Bugs Bunnies the shit out of his villains and eventually flat out kills them after finishing a thorough character assassination that deters other edgefags from becoming copycats or any of their associates from even respecting their memory
This concept feels like it could be a really interesting twist on Batman's own revenge/power fantasy thing against crime, only probably a lot more cathartic to watch. He could basically just be the apex predator of Gotham who specifically preys on egotistical sociopaths and other varieties of hot shit who think they're "above" common morality, or have reputations 'too big' to fail them or something.
Earth-3 Jokester ongoing when?
Jack Flores
I dont read Marvel stuff, but I always thought OP's image of Cyclops in Magneto's suit was pretty awesome.
Could anyone give me a rundown on that image? Did Cyclops become a Magneto of sorts? Did he really wear the suit or was it just a promo image, symbolic or something like that?
Christian Morales
>Imagine if you went around killing people but everyone treated you like you're still good.
Good thing Jean Grey doesn't go around killing people then. Honestly everything "bad" teen Jean did can also be said about any other telepath.
Michael Myers
an Alpha Flight character that was killed in Necrosha. She was the wife of Madison Jeffries.
Jason Davis
He's a natural born idiot.
Eli Torres
That was pleasant, thanks user.
Hunter Price
He would be slightly more proactive 00's era Norman Osborn. Just another angry smart guy who builds gadgets to stop each and every hero they might encounter.
We already have guys like the Thinker, Wizard, Kang, Doom. for that. Evil Tony would not stand out at all.
Kevin Moore
>everything "bad" teen Jean did can also be said about any other telepath.
yeah, I love Emma but she did monstrous unforgivable stuff in the Hellfire Club to kids.
luckily it's fiction!
Brandon Cook
Good Karla is basically just Carol again.
Jacob Torres
He's still around but is widely considered to be a D-Tier villain that is easily beaten. Kamala slapped him around a year or two ago almost effortlessly. Evil Beast might as well be 90's Jackal who lifts a bit more
Evan Cook
>Rightclops
>Villain
Hudson Baker
Clayface
Adam Bell
I agree.
Brody Hall
>Jean Grey for Villain
Wait wait wait. She is not a villain?
Sebastian Nelson
>Implying Ghost isn't a true hero already
Nolan Peterson
Evil Superman is the only Superman I've given a fuck about.