Recipe for a 2010's cartoon:
>Episodic plot
>Inefective vilain
>Grapling hook
>Unicorn
>Reference to other cartoons
>Slightly SOL
>Shipping
>Self deprecating humor
>Relationship drama
>No stakes whatsoever
>2nd degree writing
>Flash animation
>Random naming
>Weeaboo undertones
>10 minutes episodes
>"geek culture"
>Status quo
>"Follow your dreams"/"Believe in yourself"
>Rapid-fire lines
>Author mouthpiece
>Medieval fantasy
>Food jokes
Add more ingredients to the list
>LGBT rep
>Medieval fantasy
Really? I can't even name any.
>YELLING AND SCREAMING
Most of these are not only inconsequential but don't even happen in most 2010s cartoons
>Status quo
Ah yes, something that didn't exist in cartoons pre 2010 that regularly destroyed their entire universe, blew up their homes, suffered what should be permanent injuries, gained powers that never show up again, get kicked out by their owners, or just generally cause a problem that will inevitably fix itself by the end of the episode with no permanent repercussions.
>Flash animation
Most cartoons aren't animated in flash, don't use puppet rigs. and aren't motion tweened
>Episodic plot
Besides this not being true, even before the 2010 most cartoons were episodic.
>2nd degree writing
Depends on the show
>11 minutes episodes
Still something most cartoons pre2010 did
>Food jokes
Butter toast
This is honestly the only real complaint about modern cartoons that is true across almost all of them
The magic sword thing? Rapunzel, the quirky girl knight 3d cartoon
I hate how animesque a lot of them are.
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Your recipe for 2010 cartoons is something that is in 3 not even popular cartoons?
If by a lot you mean like two or three.
>Present a base for drawing your own character
>Someone posts theirs
>"omfg no fucking get out"
Do you enjoy drama, OP?
Wouldn't "Most of these" imply the majority of them, yet you only pointed out a quarter of them?
"Most of these" meant the rest of them,
>Grapling hook
>Unicorn
>Reference to other cartoons
>Slightly SOL
>"Follow your dreams"/"Believe in yourself"
>Rapid-fire lines
These are the ones I was calling inconsequential, the ones that weren't (but were also stupid) I responded to specifically
That makes more sense
It's the extreme quirkiness I despise.
That's what happens when you raise an entire generation on fanfiction, deviantart and memes.
I was raised on that stuff and I hate the shit OP is talking about.
>Starts off cute and quirky but it's actually dark and has DEEPEST LORE
>Episodic plot
It's done like this because shows usually aren't played in chronological order. Has to be interesting to watch an episode alone.
>Ineffective villain
If you mean a gag villain (Ludo from Star Vs. or Lord Hater from Wander), then it's usually to create a villains status quo so the steaks can be raised later with an actual serious villain (Toffee, Dominator).
>Grappling hook
I've only seen this once or twice in modern cartoons
>Unicorn
A magical fantasy beast in cartoons? GASP
>Reference to other cartoons
If it's enough to detract from the scene and doesn't add anything, it's shit.
>Slightly SOL
I agree with this one. So many cartoons are aiming for SOL shit and it's maddening.
>Shipping
There has always been some sort of romance in cartoons, it's fun to write. I will admit it gets a bit sick if it becomes the main focus.
>Self deprecating humor
That's alot of todays humor, but I agree it's not good
>Relationship drama
Easy way to make the illusion of adding conflict
>No stakes whatsoever
Goes with SOL, but alot of cartoons with even a mix of something else have steaks. Don't know what your talking about.
>2nd degree writing
>Flash animation
Both of these based on the show
>Random naming
Don't know what you mean by this
>Weeaboo undertones
Goes back to referencing other cartoons
>10 minutes episodes
I agree this is a problem
>"geek culture"
No idea what you mean
>Status quo
Gives the viewer a sense of normality. Everything can't change every episode.
>"Follow your dreams"/"Believe in yourself"
Nothing wrong with believing in yourself user
>Rapid-fire lines
Please explain
>Author mouthpiece
I'll agree here
>Medieval fantasy
There are almost no medieval fantasy stories, what are you talking about?
>Food jokes
Easy humor
OP, most of these are oddly specific.
>Inefective vilain
how many cartoons ended with the villain winning so bad it made the whole show pointless?
The biggest offender is the complete absence of threat.
Seriously, when was the last time you worried for a characters life? When did you genuinely asked yourself if they would make it to the end?
Cartoons like "The secret of Nimh", "Bart gets an F" or "The Rescuers" still give these feels 20 years later, and they were made for children.
I guess this is a result of helicopter parenting, among other things.
>Episodic plot
>Inefective vilain
>Slightly SOL
>Self deprecating humor
>Relationship drama
>Flash animation
>Random naming
>Weeaboo undertones
>Follow your dreams/Believe in yourself
>Medieval fantasy
>Status quo
2010s cartoons weren't the first you buffoon.
>reference to other cartoons
>10 minutes episodes
Now you're just picking cherries.
You must admit before 2010 these were the exception rather than the rule.
let us apply it to a random 90s cartoon
>Episodic plot
darkwing duck was episodic
>>Inefective vilain
darkwing alternated between joke villains and real villains
>>Grapling hook
dakrwing had one
>>Unicorn
surprisingly, cannot remember one
wouldnt put it past them though
>>Reference to other cartoons
very much so, due to being disney
>>Slightly SOL
only very slightly, since gosalyn occasionally had normal girl problems
>>Shipping
there was a minor subplot
>>Self deprecating humor
a whole lot, since darkwing was a parody of superheroes, and would spend 4/5ths being an idiot and 1/5th getting dangerous
>>Relationship drama
of the "dating catwoman" variety
>>No stakes whatsoever
depended on the episode
nd degree writing
subjective
>>Flash animation
did not exist yet
>>Random naming
>>Weeaboo undertones
minutes episodes
2 11-minute episodes
>>"geek culture"
this came out before marvel movies, and so was indulging a whole lot of obscure comic references before it was cool
>>Status quo
aye, very much so
>>"Follow your dreams"/"Believe in yourself"
parodied
>>Rapid-fire lines
darkwing was a very dramatic fellow, to say the least
>>Author mouthpiece
none, but gosalyn was the obvious stand in for the kids watching
>>Medieval fantasy
modern day
>>Food jokes
when they were hungry
>There are almost no medieval fantasy stories, what are you talking about?
The usual Troll/Dwarf/Orc/Elf/Vampire/Goblin/Princess/Wizard/etc... combo
>The usual Troll/Dwarf/Orc/Elf/Vampire/Goblin/Princess/Wizard/etc... combo
Then you mean fantasy unless it's during the age of castles and the like. Even then, not super common.
Quality thread.
I don't think anything deserves to be called 'medieval' unless it reproduces the aesthetic of the medieval period by portraying a society with the values and technology associated with it.
Are you a fucking underage? A lot of those were normal in cartoons since ever
>SJW pandering
>Made by millenials
[Spoiler]>Memes[/spoiler]
>hyper detailed meme face attained using wrinkles and ridges
What are you talking about, that one's been used in a lot of comedic cartoons outside of the 2010s
>people whining online like little bitches
>>"geek culture"
more of SNS geek culture
So, basically everything that's been a staple for cartoons since the 90's.
It's much more fun when you mix and match two of those items at once.
>Grappling hook unicorn
>Medieval weeaboo fantasy undertones
>Ineffective villain relationship drama
>Rapid-fire shipping lines
>Reference to other self-deprecating humor cartoons
Tell me more about your character "Cal" there.
Why people say that its Calarts fault when 70% of these shows are not made by Calarts people?
I don't think that works well in most tv shows, but more movies should do this, it makes any happy ending feel deserved.
80's tv cartoons were full of orphans going through bad shit.
I believe the proper term is "scapegoat."
Most of these are either not prevalent in 2010s cartoons or were always prevalent in TV cartoons. Some of these aren't even inherently bad.
These days it doesn't really mean "creator went to calarts", it's just a collective name for simple, boring and safe art styles.
>Grapling hook
this isn't a thing. Stop posting it.
Quirky girls
well what's an unsafe art style?
Ren & Stimpy? Modern Spongebob?
Yeah but you're not making a cartoon for tv.
>Flash being used as an adjective rather then knowing its just a tool and only is utilized as well as the artists using it.
>>"b-but tween animation"
Flash animation = animation made with Flash. Which often mean "puppet" animation and simplified shapes.
>puppet animation
>simplified shapes
that's not mutually exclusive nor is the reason because of flash. Just because shows take liberties in cutting labor costs with easy to draw/animate techniques doesn't mean that's the set standard. Any non brainlet will tell you to watch Motorcity for an example.
Oh shit, the new Avatar show is out?
2020 is when we'll see Ong the Ovotor.
The thing i hate most is that most are not even targeted at children anymore.
They know their core audience is 20 something neck or leg beards because kids cant sit and watch an actual cartoon when theres a gorillion videos on youtube.
That way, they try to make really infantile drama to show how grown up or whatever it is, while older shows did just that and better because they didnt aim for that.
Cartoons today are fandom hives, not something for a kid to watch on saturday morning
fuck these shitty bait threads
/sug/ is that way
Don’t forget quirky exclamations like “Cool beans!” or “Sweet sauce!” Adventure Time really fucked up cartoons
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Quality Thread. Let's add on to it
>LGBT rep and undertones
>most or all male characters are evil/losers/morons
>"""Comfy""" aka boring episodes
>Trying too hard to become a meme in order to gain viral popularity
>String arms
>Stoner and Surreal vibes
keep em coming, guys.
>Chiptunes/bouncy synth based soundtrack
>References to Neon Genesis Evangelion for no purpose other than to say “Hey, remember NGE? Because WE do!”
>Romantic drama that sucks out any and all enjoyment from the show
>Child/teenage male character is voiced by a grown man
>References to outdated memes from 2009 or something
>References to aspects of “fandom culture” (ie some character mentions fanfiction they’ve been working on)
>Garishly bright/pastel colors
Heh nice.
>Chiptunes/bouncy synth based soundtrack
I sorta like these
"Cool beans" existed before Adventure Time.
Just a generic example of the type of catchphrases I was talking about
Can you describe what you mean by this?
Low effort and easy to be generic.
You have to be extremely lucky or extremely good to make good sounding chiptunes/synths, like Fox and Moroder
Pretty sure those existed before Adventure Time also. Don't even recall any current shows with those.
Kek
Fucking agreed. Especially the music
>Chiptunes/bouncy synth based soundtrack
God I hate this. The only memorable soundtrack I can remember from the past few years is the WOY ost, and they didn't even release most of that shit.
>Shipping
does people not realize that this is something the fandoms of shows do and not the show itself?
We get it. You’re a manchild. Go back to Disney Junior.
desu If I were to make a cartoon I would give it a more Ambient/Vaporwave based soundtrack
>Which often mean "puppet" animation and simplified shapes
Congratulations, you're retarded
They don't even copy good anime. It's all soyboy shit like the Sailor Moon TV anime or Utena.
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