>"Captain Marvel is, in some ways, the closest to Captain America, which is a weird, now rare kind of character. A person who's right and knows they're right and doesn't really want to hear it when you tell them they're wrong. So, with all these flawed, fucked-up people like Quill - who's a mess - and Tony - who has a massive ego - all contorted, it's fun to get another person with a clear vision in there going "shut up". She represents the optimism that Steve Rogers lost over the years."
I feel like they went "Let's make PG-13 Jessica Jones except act like she is heroic"
Alexander Smith
>A person who's right and knows they're right and doesn't really want to hear it when you tell them they're wrong
Is that really Cap's character? He was quite willing to hear Tony out, he was even ready to sign before he was told about Wanda's incarceration. It's not that he's a stubborn asshole, but that he has conviction when he weighs his options against his moral center. Carol wasn't that kind of character, even in her murderous sexpot days.
Everybody in the USA Hates their stupid captain She's Danvers and she's really really laaaaaaame Danvers tried to wreck my song Her views on precognition's wrong I hate her guts and Danvers is her naaaaaaaame
Jason Sanders
>he was even ready to sign before he was told about Wanda's incarceration
You mean the sidekick of the homicidal robot?
>It's not that he's a stubborn asshole He is.
David Collins
tony pls
Chase Scott
good i was tired of cape movies carol will finally kill them
John Rivera
I think Portman's contract is up.
Blake Barnes
I want Cap to drill me.
Cooper Lee
she will
Kevin James
I swear a few weeks ago I recall an article saying she was a jokester like Quill and Tony. No doubt this is a flag that Evans leaving is a sealed deal and they need a replacement, but I wish they'd at least pretend to have a consistent idea of Carol after all this fucking push to make her visible. It's Mystique all over again.
Andrew Nelson
Being determined and optimistic doesn't prevent her from being a quipster, my dude.
Easton Gonzalez
>I wish they'd at least pretend to have a consistent idea of Carol how could they? unlike the other characters she have being a wet bread for at least a decade
Cameron Foster
I want Carol to be like Cap but kinda happier but then she fucking SNAPS and goes Murder Carol and everyone goes like "Woah chill" but she can't chill so Sentry comes and murders the fuck out of her
Michael Johnson
good
people will want to see what a good version of Wonder Woman looks like
Blake Brooks
>she have being a wet bread
Sebastian Brown
>a person who's right and knows they're right Trust sounds abdolutely fucking insufferable.
Joshua King
everyone's a killer in the MCU carol could separate herself from the rest by being the only one who enjoy it but we know that's not gonna happen
Ryan Kelly
D-A-N-V-E-R-S She's the gal who I hate best I'd like to see her book go up in flaaaaaaames
Zachary Howard
You've seen Avengers 4!? How amazing is it you whiny little bitch?
Joseph Allen
Anyone else having anal pain right now?
Landon Morales
I think portman would rather do porn then a MCU movie
Matthew Lee
well yeah, that's because I keep shoving cocks in my ass. but I don't see how that's relevant here
Ian Morales
the difference is cpt fought nazis and was a real man patriot, who loves America. cpt Marvel on the other hand has never fought nazis, is a woman in military, that makes no sense in the first place. Her optimism is stupid, Captins made sense, because the 40-50s were the best time to live in America.
Luis Perez
That would be the only way she would get me to torrent. I might pay ticket price if she takes a DP without a body double while wearing a cheerleader skirt.
Hunter Perry
>thinking anyone will be as perfect as based Chris Evans
I really wish people stopped trying to describe these characters in interviews by comparing them to other characters because it's 100% certain that won't be the case at best and at worst it'll disappoint everyone. If you need to piggyback off of someone other character to explain your characters personality then your character has a bland personality on their own.
Bentley Williams
>A person who's right and knows they're right and doesn't really want to hear it when you tell them they're wrong. That doesn't sound like Captain America AT ALL.
Carter Sanchez
>Now they need a Thor sucessor. Beta Ray Bill next and then they'll kick Hemsworth
Christopher Long
Cap doesn't tell people to shut up.
Adrian Lee
Monica is a joke now.
Grayson Roberts
She's a full-on militarist shill too, whereas Cap has always been a good man first and soldier second.
James Evans
>because the 40-50s were the best time to live in America. Not even if you were a straight white guy.
Austin Torres
Cap believes in Wanda, in IW he's literally going all out to save the man she loves.
Connor Fisher
>because the 40-50s were the best time to live in America
You're an idiot if you genuinely believe this. Caps optimism had nothing to do with his time being "better", it had everything to do with Cap WANTING his time to be better. Which is why he fights in the first damn place. I mean fuck, even in the movie Cap faced nothing but suffering and bigotry.
Steve stands up for what he believes but he's willing to be swayed. We got that in Avengers when Tony brought up the fact that Fury was keeping secrets from him and Steve was upset that Tony was hacking but then he went and got evidence that Fury was making weapons.
He was also willing to go with the Accords until it was clear to him that everyone wanted to fuck up Bucky without giving him any rights. He also recognized that him keeping the secret of what the Winter Soldier did to Tony's parents from Tony was a mistake.
That said I can believe Carol being a stubborn asshole, that's always been her character comics, but that's not Steve in the MCU.
Jayden Gray
Tiny Stank pls go.
Christian Morales
Different writers want her to be different things, the character is going to be a mess.
She said Cap as in Captain America not Major Kree trash Danvers.
Isaac Taylor
>a jokester Not just a jokester, she was 'one of the funniest marvel characters'
Henry Garcia
They said she takes no shit from anyone and anyone who tries to bring her down she sasses them. I am hoping it’s sarcastic or dry humour. Personally I am tired of all the stoic Avengers females. We need some sass up here.
But sassy action girl character is better? Also Widow quips occasionally so she's not that stoic.
But really they can't write women other than being the typical straightman who is smarter than all the boys or the sassy action girl who is better than everyone else.
I think Mantis is the most original they been with a female character.
Henry Young
Only short people are wrong, user.
Oliver Bennett
It's been clear that Carol is the future of the MCU for a while, my dudes.
Evans wants to step down and RDJ flip flops and they don't want to have to keep paying him so they've been building a new face for the MCU. It was originally going to be Feige's favorite character Strange but the movie had some production issues and they had issues with casting so they had to go for a part timer in Cumberbatch. Spidey is an obvious choice but co-holding the character with Sony means it will never happen.
Then the support for a female character became more vocal and Captain Marvel became the next choice. She's a woman and she can go cosmic which opens up more option for Phase 4, plus the company name is right in her name. They locked down Larson who is an Oscar winner with an open schedule (a full timer) and here we are. You can tell they're being very careful with her movie because a lot is riding on not fucking it up.
Cooper Stewart
Mantis is a really feminine characters and that’s fine but we need some diversity. We don’t have a female characters that’s headstrong and won’t sympathize with a villain just because of their sob story. They could pull this off really well.
Michael Lee
You mean Sam right? Rich is no one's fugboy.
Jacob Ward
Tony at least gets the shit beaten out of him constantly. I doubt Carol will.
Blake Long
Given Carol has no empathy, I can see this.
Levi Torres
Sounds a little too fascist.
Dominic Ward
>It's been clear that Black Panther and Spider-Man are the future of the MCU for a while, my dudes.
Fixed
Joshua Russell
There's no way she's going to be anything like the Carol of the comics.
They're basically saying she's female Captain America with flying brick powers. Which means she's essentially Superwoman. For once, it would be a huge improvement if this were to bleed over into the comics.
Robert Perez
>You can tell they're being very careful with her movie because a lot is riding on not fucking it up.
Except the interviews clearly doesn't know what to make the character. They said she's the funniest character in the comics, which is wildly untrue.
William Baker
Just because she has strong objectivist morals doesn’t make her a shithead guys.
Cameron Wilson
Black Panther is a safe bet but that's a recent development. As I said, MCU is never going to push Spidey as long as they have to share with Sony.
Adrian Morgan
>objectivist morals
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
Zachary Miller
Spider-Man was never a main character of Avengers in the comics anyway. The next big three is probably Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Doctor Strange.
Ryder Allen
Every thing they described is just Jessica Jones without the rape or drinking. She's just going to say the shit like "Let a man do a woman's job" and shit like that and will act like she's the smartest one in the room.
Gabriel Thompson
Thing is, you can probably name more Spider-Man stories than you can for Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Dr. Strange. I mean, people on this board want M'Baku to be the villain for Black Panther 2.
Adam Flores
>She's just going to say the shit like "Let a man do a woman's job"
Does Jessica Jones even say this?
I remember Jones just being a drunken wreck in her own series. Which funnily enough would be in-character for Carol too.
Henry Perez
>Doctor Strange.
No way Cumberbatch signed that kind of contract
Isaiah Morgan
"Last night was fun, but we don't care about your opinion" is the shit all over JJ.
Alexander Roberts
no way Disney is dumb enough to try it
Bentley Jones
Cumberbatch is the nerdiest of the cast and the only one who read the full Infinity War script and not just his parts. He also appeared in Ragnorak while getting paid little. Feige also commented how enthusiastic he is. The guy legit seems to enjoy it.
David Fisher
I would say IMHO Peggy, Wanda, Nebula, and Mantis are their most unique ladies. Natasha and Gamora are the most generic, they are basically standard action girls. Wanda doubts herself and doesn't quip, She's strong and frail all at once, she's very different to the standard Marvel female.
Wyatt Gutierrez
This is nonsense and proves nothing.
Andrew Jackson
It proves that Cumberbatch enjoys making these enjoys making these movies and definitely wouldn’t oppose to staying long term.
Christian Wilson
>the only one who read the full Infinity War script and not just his parts Alright, it's a long movie, but seriously?
Jeremiah Taylor
Man what can they even do with Mar-Vell these days? His biggest story was him dying, everything since has been bad attempts to replace him, his daughter, Danvers What can you even do?
Xavier Lewis
There are plenty of villains they could use in BP2. Achiebe, Set, Attuma, Naga (they could just use Lumeria if they can't use Namor).
Nolan Young
Well they don’t need to read the full script. Just their parts.
Nathaniel Garcia
>and Tony - who has a massive ego
Tony's ego is deserved because most of the time he's absolutely goddamn right.
Jack Robinson
What if after Avengers 4 every Marvel movie becomes a bit of a team film the way the Captain America films progressed to Civil War or how Ant Man will be Ant Man and the Wasp? (Rhetorical) So many posts so many words yet we have enough new characters with Captain Marvel to fill a new Avengers. Wasp, Spider-man, Ant-man, Black Panther, Dr Strange, Captain Marvel that's enough isn't it? (Rhetorical) Captain America and Star Lord need to rebuild Nova Corps after Thanes and they can take Carol with them just Ro pre-empt DEc's attempt at bringing Green Lantern back.
What else can challenge Black Panther more than having to lead The Avengers (not rhetorical) once a few of their leaders get taken out? It goes along with his whole reluctance to glory style. I say bring Strange, Pym, and T'challa together to give the Avengers a new HQ and then make finding things for the bug people to do their main theme. Done and done /thread, _______________________________selah
> She represents the optimism that Steve Rogers lost over the years. wtf is this revisionist bullshit, steve STILL hasn't lost his optimism
he flat out believes they will lose together in ultron. the ending of civil war ends with him saying he is glad tony still has the avengers and how his faith in people, including tony, is still there and he's happy he still has it. and he won't let tony down if shit hit the fan in the future
Samuel Ortiz
From the evidence we have of how into the franchise he is. I mean they convinced Evans to stay even though he hates being a movie star. It would be ten times easier with Cumberbatch.
