As an Austrian national I know man made climate change is real

95% of Austrians understand that man made rapid climate change is real for the simple reason because in Austria you can see the effects of it with your own eyes.

Snow fall is getting rarer in lower areas of Austria, glaciers are retreating and skiing resorts need massive amounts of snow machines to salvage their seasons. This is not just reported on every winter, people see it right there where they live.

And it has happened in the last 30 years. Austria and the Alps (60% of Austria) are particularly sensitive to temperature increases as half a degree celsius warmer on average can make the difference between snow at 400m or no snow at 400m.

tldr - Sup Forums should wake up, rapid, man made climate change is real. There is no need to do anything about it, but we shouldn't deny that it is real.

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what do I care if you mountain niggers got snow or not?

get fucked

Cool. Now tell us about the Roman ruins being found under those retreating glaciers and how that supports your claim.

>what do I care if you mountain niggers got snow or not?

Just because you are not rich or sporty enough to go skiing, doesn't mean Austrians don't want their snow and glaciers. Now fuck off non-Bavarian Piefke.

>Cool. Now tell us about the Roman ruins being found under those retreating glaciers and how that supports your claim.

There are no Roman ruins found under retreating glaciers. We found million year old trees, though.

go suck a dick you mountain nigger, nobody cares about your gletscher or snow shit.

hope the cinese burn some more tires so this happens faster

Climate change was real millions of years before humans existed. It's real now. It will be real long after we're gone.

>nobody cares about your gletscher or snow shit.
You are just envious because we are better than you Piefke Merkel socialist scum.

Except that you're uninformed and wrong.

>95% of Austrians understand that man made rapid climate change is real for the simple reason because in Austria you can see the effects of it with your own eyes.

So you know it is man made just by looking at the mountain? Because this is actually the argument you are presenting .....

>Picture of mountain during winter on the left
>Picture of mountain during summer on the right

Climate change is real guys I know it is!

Dont worry, based Kim will fix this with a little nuclear winter.

>man made climate change
You keep repeating this, but at no point have you proven that the climate change is actually man made.

Saupreiß fuck off

Thats a false analogy.
Because climates also changed before industrialisation. Man made climate change is like believing in the tooth fairy.
The tooth from under your pillow was gone so the fairy your parents told you about must be real.

Who cares? A shorter skiing season in Europe is a small price to pay for making America great again.

You're a moron.

>no arguments

also my posts were already blessed by kek you turds

NO it is NOT. Now go away and spread your propaganda lies somewhere else.

>it stopped snowing in the alps as much
>must be the fault of those American coal companies 5000 miles away

>it could not possibly be anything other than humans

solid argument

Yeah it's real, technological advancement will fix it. Not building stupid windmills and separating your plastic from bio-degradables.

Soon we'll have a fix and it doesn't involve us paying billions. Actually, first we will pay billions if not trillions and then they magically find out that it didn't work and then we'll have a technological breakthrough. Either in the form of gasoline or CO2 removal pillars. Maybe even the SolarCity roofs could help a great deal? Solar windows being developed as we speak. And who wouldn't want to be self-sufficient? Per son or company.

>So you know it is man made just by looking at the mountain? Because this is actually the argument you are presenting .....

I know it is man made because in my youth the glaciers were bigger, we had more snow in the Taeler and people could go skiing more easily. Today, Austria is keeping its winter tourism alive by using hundreds of millions in euros to create artificial snow for Piefke tourists who then ski in between green belts of forrest and meadow.

Last winter, I was mountaineering with my brother on Dec 23 and guess what, we were walking around in T-shirts at 2200m at 3pm in the afternoon, because it had 17 degrees Celsius.

Either man made climate change isnt really in which, just plan for the inevitable climate change.
Or man made climate change is real but its either too late to stop it or would require massive depopulation to stop in which case just plan for the inevitable climate change.

>Who cares? A shorter skiing season in Europe is a small price to pay for making America great again.

Snow is everything in Austria. EVERYTHING. Glaciers are everything. We are gonna build nukes to kill you all just to keep our snow. Trust me, I know how Austrians think. Better radioactive snow than no snow.

Being able to see it doesn't mean it was caused by humans.

Climate Change is proof time travel exists

Sometime in the future, we will invent a way to send our dangerous Carbon dioxide back in time to dispose of it
Thats why the past ice ages ended, because only man made change could get rid of ice

See? if it wasnt for man made climate change the ice ages wouldnt have ended and we wouldnt exist, lefty fags BTFO forever

Anschluss an Österreich wann?

Oh shut up.

Even under the most pessimistic models, they're only expecting a few degrees difference in the temperature over the next 100 years. There's no model that blames CO2 output for the warmer weather within the last few years. That's simply not how it works.

Bald.

>I know it's man made because it wasn't like this when I was younger.

Dude, are you still in high school? Do you even read what you are writing? Using your logic, every kind of change happening is due to humans, as if we can literally control everything.

Literally nothing you write is any kind of proof or implication that it is man made, just that climate is changing ....

only stupid people really think that humans haven't affected climate change. lazy people and rich people know it but don't want to do anything about it.

I am just using the same arguments as man made climate change deniers. If I started to say that scientists concluded that man made climate change is real, people would call me a socialist, Hilldog shill.

>weather changes
>omg its the end of the world
>tax everybody to save the world

You know this has been happening for a few thousand years now, right? God will smite you if you don't give a tithe, etc. Global warming is just the latest version of religious doomsday prophecy, with the same goals: making a few people more rich and controlling the unwashed masses at the same time. Its like an all-female reboot of Armageddon prophecy.

Libtards really put me off climate change. If given a choice to reduce or increase emissions i always pick the latter.
Example.
Yesterday i set fire to ten old tires in the backyard (i live out in the country) and i don't bother recycling plastics any more i just throw them on the bonfire and set that alight as well.My neighbor across the way saw me doing this and admitted he burns most of his rubbish as well.

>If I started to say that scientists concluded that man made climate change is real

But they haven't "concluded", this is the important part. They are of the opinion that this is the case, but there is no scientific proof that it is man made. This is THE "problem" in the entire debate... what the scientists say so far is their professional opinion but scientific proof does not exist yet for this claim.

To be more precise: The ocean has waaay more CO2 in it than the atmosphere and the amount of solved CO2 in the ocean depends on it's temperature (warmer = ocean releases CO2 into atmosphere) and the current "science" is not able to explain if the ocean release more CO2 because the atmosphere gets warmer due to "our" CO2 production, OR if the Ocean releases huge amounts of CO2 and in return our atmoshpere becomes warmer due to the addition CO2/greenhouse effect.

>but there is no scientific proof that it is man made.
You do understand that outside of mathematics, you cannot prove anything, right? You can only provide statistical probabilities based on models. And scientists HAVE CONCLUDED that with a more than 95% certainty climate change is caused predominantly by mankind.

Only complete idiots deny that the IPCC actually said what it said.

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>You do understand that outside of mathematics, you cannot prove anything, right?
You mistake a problem of physics for a problem of math. (inb4 it's the same)

>You can only provide statistical probabilities based on models.
What you have are Physical Theories which can be proven "right" in a pre-determined margin of error. The interesting part is, the model projection for temperature increase done in the 1990s deviates today further than their determined margin of error allows, meaning they themselves show that their model is wrong.

>You can only provide statistical probabilities based on models.
Interestingly nobody seems to provide a paper for this claim.

x2

Kim is the man the world needs and wants.

>stating facts based on social constructs like math,and time

youtube.com/watch?v=pOWrCKP46_w

How is climate change bad?

Some brown people's countries becoming uninhabitable is a good thing!

we better hope that man made global warming is real otherwise we will see the eventual return of the ice age that will eradicate everything on the northern part of the globe

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>>You can only provide statistical probabilities based on models.
>Interestingly nobody seems to provide a paper for this claim.

It is not a claim, you learn something like this in kindergarden. You cannot PROVE anything outside of the realm of mathematic. Everything outside of math is just a theory, there are no facts.

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kys fucking mountain niggers

t. German infiltrating the mountain niggers

>Muh 95 percent certainty

This figure is complete bullshit fucking Germans will believe anything the television tells them.

YES BECAUSE THE PLANET NEVER CHANGES TEMP UNLESS HUMANS ARE INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come Mars is heating up at the same rate as Earth is global warming is caused by man?

Are there martians driving around in big SUVs?
>Gee.....it's almost like it has more tocdo with solar output than Ford trucks

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Of course it's real you dumb nigger

What it is not is significant compared to naturally occurring effects

>Even under the most pessimistic models, they're only expecting a few degrees difference in the temperature over the next 100 years.
About 4C.
Which is massive.
4C less and new york would be under a glacier.

>What it is not is significant compared to naturally occurring effects
There have been warmer times in the earths history yes. We've only been around in our modern form for 200 000 years though and most of those temperatures we couldn't nearly survivie

Climate changes due to things such as CO2 and other natural factors in the past.

>being this retarded

Most major Austrian cities would still be cooler than cities in Texas if the planet warmed by 9°C.

Stop it, ORF-cuck.

>They are of the opinion that this is the case, but there is no scientific proof that it is man made.

Your retarded. CO2 affected the climate in the past and we have empirical evidence that this would have to be the case (deglaciations, snowball earth). If we can then impact CO2 concentration in the atmosphere we can impact temperature.
researchgate.net/publication/222409250_Models_on_Snowball_Earth_and_Cambrian_explosion_A_synopsis
atmos.washington.edu/2009Q1/111/Readings/Lorius1990_ice-core.pdf

> and the current "science" is not able to explain if the ocean release more CO2 because the atmosphere gets warmer due to "our" CO2 production, OR if the Ocean releases huge amounts of CO2 and in return our atmoshpere becomes warmer due to the addition CO2/greenhouse effect.

Yeah we know its the greenhouse effect, as seen above the greenhouse effect due to CO2 would be necessary at certain points in the history of the earths climate in order for certain warming's to occur. If your talking about lag sometimes the temperature comes before CO2 change and sometimes it comes after.

>the fact it happens proves the theory of why it happens
Yeah and i can prove god exists by pointing outside and showing the earth it said he created?

No one ever said climate change isnt going on. When we say dont believe in climate change, we are talking about our involvment in climate change. Everything said for the past 10 years has been debunked. Noticed how they cant call it global warming anymore?
Rapid climate change occurs on earth every now and then.
Look at 250-400 AD. The roman warm period. The world got really warm over a few year, then it plateaued for a while, and then finally it begun to rapidly get colder over the course of a few years.

>> Shows glacier melting
>> Makes quantum leap to conclude its "man made"
>>Blames Trump's racist supporters and cartoon frog.

OUT OUT OUT

>what are sun's phases

fukc off with your mountain!

a fucking asteroid might hit us at any minute and you are here complaining

you can't trust any data from these fucks

even NASA has been caught doctoring data to support their shekel farming

there was far less ice in the north pole at the turn of the century, researchers could get up right near the pole with little wooden boats, now they need hardcore icebreakers to get through up there.

>typical scale of effects of natural phenomena comprising "climate change"
>0.001
>typical scale of effects of man-made phenomena that partially affect the natural phenomena comprising "climate change"
>0.000000000000001
>realness established! time to change all government and ruin every economy
>freedom can't work according to our weather forecast

Warming climate is becoming obvious to anyone who lives in one of the border zones. Glaciers have been retreating from the mountains where my parents grew up, huge difference from when they were kids to today. Desert areas getting more desert.

Shit is changing, not all of it for the good. Whether or not we can do anything about it is still up for debate, but open your eyes.

glaciers retreating isn't a new thing

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tldr OP is a massive faggot and should kill himself