Any other anti-nationalists here?

Any other anti-nationalists here?

JUDEN RAUS

Yep.

Ideally we'd have one world government. Of course, we might have to eradicate religion first.

Wow, anti-semite. Why do you not want Jews to have their own nation?

t. Mohammed

I want the entire world united under one ruler. A splintered world will just lead to more violence.

kys

>Any one from Melbourne here

Yep.

Ideally we'd have one world government. Of course, we might have to eradicate non Swiss trash first.

Hopefully it will burn down soon.

topkek kill yourself

Atheist dipshit on small island against 7 billion people who piss on your one world government. Should be amusing.

Ideally, but it's not likely. The most likely scenario is a post-catastrophe scattering of humanity's remnants, to the point that national borders are irrelevant.

Your people eat dogs. Garbage country

Ofc. Can't be a capitalist if you're also a nationalist.

One world government is a ridiculous idea. The whole story of European history is defined by people trying to do that and then ending up creating nationalist revolutions as a reaction

You suck paki dick. I'd compare you to animals but at least they are delicious.

i'm sure that would work out great.

please kill yourself first tho

Anti-Nationalist

So, Anti-Being Proud of your country

No, what happens is they try to create a one world government, but fuck up in a major way, that often leads to a revolt.

>get cucked by an explicit French act of war
>muh Rainbow Warrior
>let the French agents go, because the French said so
>honhonhonhon

Glass houses, stones, etc

I hope you are ready to die for your beliefs

I'm hoping for a brave-new-world-esque detached, calculated, AI-controlled world shadow government one day, once automation has taken over most jobs.

Inside every Australian there is an American trying to crawl out.

Your country sucks, retard. Grow up
Yea mate. Fuck them all. Burn it down. But save the kiwis

So you're proud that your mum popped a squat and heaved you out on this particular piece of dirt? If that's all you've got, I wouldn't want to take it from you.

Neck yourselves globalist scum

seconded.

it's the only way to achieve world peace.

Not for long, Trump will pull the US out of the Pacific and that influence will die. And Australia will take NZ as a vassal, because we can. The French proved that NOBODY gives a shit about you.

It's about being proud of your ancestors, culture, your people's achievements, the daily life your country has created

Fucktard.

>Durrr your country sux!! xddd pwned

Better than the corrupt states of niggerland

Globalism is objectively bad. This is not up for debate, it's a fact. Sorry.

If anything I'm a federalist.

Anarcapitalism FTW!

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LIKE FUCK HAVIN BORDERS AND LAWS AND SHIEEEEEET, SENPAI!

Are you a Christian? Pride is a sin, you fucking mongoloid.

Besides that, none of those achievements have anything to do with you, except that your parents fucked sometime afterwards, because they were bored.

Dear God. You have a gift at b8ting aussies. I'm not even mad.

really well thought out argument.

Not because we can, but because Kiwiland is a state of Australia according to the Australian Constitution

kys

care to elaborate? so far i hadn't heard any argument against world government that isn't a strawman

t. Jeremy Clarkson

>Pride is a sin
Bahahaha. Nice one.
And no, I'm an Atheist. Obvious no god.

>None of those achievements have anything to do with you

Your people are your family, Even if 'you' specifically did not partake in such events. They did it FOR you, your ancestors did things FOR their people. They did it for your future, which is you.

You should feel fucking pride in that, Thousands upon Thousands of Australians fought places farrrr fucking away. They didn't fight because they felt like it, They didn't fight because of the entertainment of it or something.

They did it for their Aussie friends and family back home. Faggot. They did it so their sons and daughters could live safely, they did it so that their people sha'll continue to BE THERE.

I don't want anyone to tell me what to do. They can fuck off with their petty bullshit and incapability. Let the serfs be lorded over, not me.

His argument is nothing more than a generalised lack of faith in humanity.

no, go back you 8ch, your site is 1/2chan now

not sure if bait

Less people get exactly what they want. Half the US is unhappy. Imagine how pissed off we would be if little faggots in India and China voted for some socialist cunt, and the rest of us were told to fucking suck it up? No taxation without representation. We fought a fucking war over this shit, fuck-for-brains.

They did it because they believed the propaganda and hordes of women from the 'order of the white rose' would shame them into suicide if they didn't go when they weren't eing drafted. Nothing brave about it, they were essentially too scared to say no to their upper-class rulers. More meat into the machine, for no real reason at all. Pathetic.

>uniting countless cultures and ideologies under one nebulous government
>utterly destroying national identity
>mass poverty
>homogenization rather than diversity
Globalism is the death of everything that makes humans amazing and unique. And for what? Globalists never have any actual argument for globalism other than "it's the right thing to do", "muh helpless refugees".

lol your country (as all) does not exist. it is a social construction. as is your sense of lineage from your ancestors.

they are not real.

do you understand anything at all about what culture actually is?

>social construction
Please leave. SJWs are not allowed here.

Trump Trips of Truth

>lol your country (as all) does not exist

Okay this is just banter at this point, ya got me

You're an absolute fucking moron
>Durrr it's da propaganda and dey were forced to do it!!!

Go meet some veterans, and tell them, Why did you go and fight?

They will say: I did it for you.

>uniting countless cultures and ideologies under one nebulous government
I see no problem with this.
>utterly destroying national identity
Again, fine with me.
>mass poverty
Oh no, can you imagine if that was happening today?!?
>homogenization rather than diversity
The whole point of anti-nationalism is to remove reasons for the ruling class to keep their subservients divided and at each-other's throats. The nations and religions that people belong to are just ways to pigeon-hole people, keep them in manageable groups.

good luck with that. I will enjoy being well off and not a retard for the rest of my life

No.
They will say: I was scared that I was going to let down the guy next to me.

>I see no problem with this
>again, fine by me
So, literally "opinions: the post". Good to know you lack a concrete argument for destroying thousands of years of culture. Fuck off cuckold.

>it is a social construction.

So is the prohibition of rape. Just becomes something is a 'social construct' does not mean it is invalid or arbitrary.

>hurr durr social construct bullshit

you can ignore academia all you want but these understandings of how the world work were reached through generations of rigorous study by people vastly more intelligent than you, and go vastly further in actually getting to the root of why things are the way they are rather than appealing to your (cute) romanticism of 'i am part of a beautiful race and my country is beautiful and there is a big meaning to all of this and one day we will triumph'

there is no we. your culture is not some bounded entity that acts autonomously and has its own interests.

i think if u want to be 'redpilled' and know how the actually works it would help to have read the things that disagree with you instead of just restating the same empty phrases over and over again

>as is your sense of lineage from your ancestors.
>What is genetics?

t. Muslim in London

You'll never belong, Mehmet.

What is presented without evidence can be refuted without evidence, Seppo.

>I don't like the evidence you gave me so here's a bunch of straw men to distract you from the fact that I have no argument for globalization other than my personal feelings
ID filtered LOL.

>Feeling pride over where you were porn

Pathetic. Lets just hold hands and get off this fucking planet before we all perish.

>The whole point of anti-nationalism is to remove reasons for the ruling class to keep their subservients divided and at each-other's throats. The nations and religions that people belong to are just ways to pigeon-hole people, keep them in manageable groups.
You have it reversed. Nationalism is about keeping the people united (homogeneous) and the elites divided so they can be held accountable.

blond hair blue eyes white male, south african heritage, british raised, studying medicine at world top 10 university.
good try friend
maybe now engage with what i said?

Sorry, was I supposed to show evidence based on a previous world-spanning government?

>uniting countless cultures and ideologies under one nebulous government
>utterly destroying national identity
strawman. you can have government without requiring people to give up their culture.
>And for what?
world peace, efficient economy.
>Half the US is unhappy.
because you have a retarded two-party system

>studying medicine at a top 10 university
Stopped reading, nice role-play.

depends on how far you take nationalism

>Africa is expected to have 5 billion "people" by 2100
>all the niggers and sandniggers swarming Europe/America because their countires are/were/will always be complete shit
>not expecting Mad Max-tier future

>racial and cultural divisions across the world
>uniting them under one order
>not expecting civil wars everywhere
SHIGGY DIGGY

Multiculturalism in general is always doomed to fail, kings tried to make it work since at least Babylon and it always lead to civil wars.

'Let's keep these rich guys waaaay up there so we can see what they're getting up to.'

Yes.

Actually leave this country right now, you absolute fucking scum.

Way to disrespect the thousands of men and women that died for you so that you can sit on your ass right now and right here complaining about how Australia is so shit.

Nobody is retarded enough to knowingly go somewhere they will most likely die at because they just worried about girls denouncing them
Retarded fucking logic.

Law is a social construct
Police is a social construct
Taxes are a social construct

Go ahead and avoid those, cockass, i dare ya.

People dying thousands of km's away to ward off invaders is not a social construct

>world peace, efficient economy
Every single possible outcome of a one-world government leads to poverty and dystopia. You cannot rule over so many different cultures with a single body without brutal totalitarianism. It's physically impossible.

>you can ignore academia all you want but these understandings of how the world work were reached through generations of rigorous study by people vastly more intelligent than you
>so stop thinking you're allowed to govern yourselves and run your own countries and allow enlightened elites to rule you they totally know what they're doing because they're so smart
Fuck. Your. Self.

see

>because you have a retarded two-party system
You are actively avoiding the point I was making.

>'Let's keep these rich guys waaaay up there so we can see what they're getting up to.'
Globalism is what's giving rich people more and more power. Which you damn well know.

No.
That is globalism.

Keep the people angry, import millions of people from a different culture that won't integrate, can't integrate, and cause massive amounts of social stress.
Drain the rich nations of wealth by having to support these millions of people that have no family to rely on, no friends to rely on, and no hope to actually be productive.
Keep poor nations poor by brain-draining them to death and keeping everyone else dependent on global aid or their relatives abroad.

Nation-states as they are now are exactly what you described. Ways for the ruling elite to keep people very fucking angry about the Indians stealing tech jobs, the Mexicans stealing lower-class labor and the Chinese stealing industrial strength.
Getting rid of the nation-states won't fucking help. It'll just turn into some other divide-and-conquer shit for the elite to turn the public against each other. That's what happens in globalism. That's why it's bad. It willfully ignores biological impulses of tribalism that won't ever be surmounted, no matter how much propaganda is shoved out.

Used to be.

Then the rapefugees stormed Europe and there was no response at all. The people who were concerned were being called racist. My worldview was unable to deal with this threat.

And now I'm with the only guys who are talking about this kind of thing sensibly: Trump and Farage.

>anti-nationalists

the worst kind of scum

the underlying assumption here is that scientific fact is it's own validation of social phenomena.
what a narrow view of kinship : ) read more

If it hasn't been done before then you'd better have some really good argument before forcing people to suffer your stupid social experiment.

The increased level of stress in the modern world is a reflection and direct consequence of the increase in the extent of the order of rank inside our culture (the Western one, that is). Instead of many little hierarchies, you have a gigantic one, in which everyone feels the weight of many more others on top of him than before. This is globalization. And globalization is efficiency (which is to say progress). You have two options then. Engage with globalization — and either reap the rewards if you are above average, or the extra stress if you are below —, and don't engage globalization, by, I don't know, moving to a desert island or Siberia or something and living like a savage. Either way neither I nor anyone else is going to give a fuck about you if you are below average, which is precisely the reason you are so stressed. Claiming that disengaging from globalization is a solution is of course a ruse, because no one ever does that (i.e. no one takes the Siberia option). They don't even want to limit the extent of their own country's globalization, because when this actually happens they whine about high prices and falling quality of life. At most they try to grab as much as they can of the fruits of globalization while giving back as little as possible. And that's why they are so stressed, because leeching is a far more nervously taxing strategy than simply giving, which is what the above average do, which is why they are above average.

Antifa terrorists OUT.

u dont have to believe me but its currently number 7 on the qs world university rankings. stay mad that im beating you at the game you want to play and i dont : )

Literally nothing about this post makes any sense at all. Also
>cucked Swede
The memes don't lie.

>world peace,
Instead of wars between nations, we can have civil wars covering the planet. Good job.
>efficient economy.
Efficient for whom? Financial investors?
>because you have a retarded two-party system
God forbid we have democracy.

>tips federa

>who here believes in any and every citizen right they have being taken away at the whim of the global elite
is this a real question?

Make me, you impotent fucking twat. They died for clunge and pounds.

Its a good time to be internationalist. Europe is full of niggers and america has white minority soon.

>Smiley face
Good god, this is more annoying than smug anime girls.

Anyway
>validation of social phenomena.
The only validation of the social phenomena needed is that almost every culture feels the sane way. It seems to be an intrinsic trait to most humans.
You also seem to think that because something is a 'social construct' that it is illegitimate, yet many things of humanity use are bond in social constructs. So maybe you should read some more, friendo.

>patriotism=nationalism

ahhh yes yes the famous australian """"education""""

The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.

lol where did i mention elites? hello strawman
if you knew anything about academia you'd know that almost all social sciences are hard left and anti statist. the people studying this stuff arent trying to control you they want to understand the world you know?

this is what the american poison of rugged individualism does to you. you are competing with everyone so you think that everyone is driven by purely selfish motives. its so sad : (

the american dream

Who's talking about forced integration here? People can go where they want, but they wouldn't be any financial or legal reasons to relocate.

>strawman. you can have government without requiring people to give up their culture
>le multi cultimeme
No you can't, at least not a just one, kill yourself.

better to have some localized civil wars than WW3.

africans will come in handy as a cheap labor once we civillize them a bit.