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anarco-primitivism

>anarcho-anything
I don't understand thing, if it's actually anarchism, aren't people free to choose whatever system they'll voluntarily take part in?
>It not good enough that it's anarchism, it has to be MY anarchism.

Ancom

Anarchism with a big government is direct contradiction and its supporters need to stop worshipping noam chomsky's nonsense

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>AnCom
Isn't that a contradiction? Pretty sure the government is meant to spread the wealth.

No, not really. The final end of communism is stateless. So its not a contradiction. Just in practice the state phase of communism never really ended.

transhuman primitivism ftw

nuclear powered neandertals

>"besides some overweight nietzschian basement dweller, we all agree aggression is bad right? Cool! Let's NOT form a system of government around a principle we all despise!"
>GET OUT OF HERE YOU FUCKING ANCAP LUNATIC IT WILL NEVER WORK.

Ah yes, the fabled perfect theorical communism that nobody tried in history.

I personally am a fan of anarcho-statism.

Communism X 1000

both

Anarcho Communism is slightly more retarded. Both have creepy pedo supporters soo...

Anarcho-Communism without a doubt.

Once you go special snowflake you can never stop going more special snowflake.

>omg it's 2016 are you still an anarcho-cuckoldist like I advanced past that way ago and am now an anarcho-whalesperm-tribalist-anticis-fartface

Both put you firmly on the autism spectrum

How the fuck would Anarchism and Communism work together?

>you're free to live your life however you want. Commit any crimes you like and accept that others can do the same to you.
>except also give money to the state
>and all of your possessions
>and also commit no crimes
>and accept full government oversight of your life

Anarchism has always been a left wing anti-capitalist ideology and anarcho capitalism is some recent American meme.

This

Ancap because it would degenerate to something that is not anarchic pretty fucking quickly.


But on second thought that also applies to AnCom if it were applied on a large scale, wouldn't it?

Anarcho-communism because it's an oxymoron

Considering private property requires "aggression" to enforce how can "aggression" be bad? Honestly the NAP is a faggot pseudo-radfem philosophy anyway but in the context of capitalism makes absolutely no sense.

Why do they always look like bums in suits?

I think the theory is that true anarchism would lead to communism because small hunter-gatherer societies were basically communist (still are, if u look at primitive tribes in Africa, The Amazonas etc)

Please explain in what way is anarchism contrary to capitalism

Both are retarded, but Anarcho-Communism is even more stupid because it is self-defeating and is arguably logically impossible.

All it takes is one person to say "no I won't give to the commune". If the group uses force to impose penalties to the dissenter, then you don't have An-Com, you have a communist state. If the group says "fine, you don't have to pay" and doesn't do anything about it, then you have an An-Cap society, not an An-Com one.

Wealth is power

From a historical context yes, the left wingers of the french revolution were anarchists

But in contemporary politics, economic freedom and capitalism go hand in hand, Ancoms have this ludicrous idea to limit economic freedom without government intervention

>The final end of communism is stateless
But how the fuck is that supposed to work?
Who decides what to produce and where to take it to?

Capitalism is based on contracts, contracts goes against the anarchist ideology.

>not a single ancap meme was posted to this moment

I'm dissapointed

Because they are all autists who spent their lives thinking up retarded systems instead of working for real.

The best form of government is a worldwide federation of "city states" with universal law regarding the citizens and enviromental factors

note i put "" on city states simply because it would rather be mega regions instead of city states and smaller regions would be governed from the largest city

Diarrhea or solid, which is more smelly?

That's why it's a meme ideology. It doesn't work, never has and never will despite it being tried a billion zillion fucking times.

>implying communism doesnt work
it worked for us,its just that the filthy diasporas and the traitors started a revolution and executed our leader

Anarcho-Capitalism still requires some uniform currency to do business with.

Unless they can barter or engage in some form of agorism, dissenters may be coerced into using a currency they don't want to.

Anarcho-communism would only work if everyone shared the same thoughts and no one wanted to lead, organize, or rule unless everyone lead, organized, and ruled.

It goes against human nature.

Nah bro, Anarcho-Monarchism is the best

SMASH THE STATE
LONG LIVE THE KING

All forms of anarchism are equally retarded.

the citizens of the communist state (uh, I mean country, uh wait no I mean stateless world) who have gone beyond the paradigm shift and no longer believe in property rights

Literally the entire movement and school of thought except AnCap is and has been opposed to capitalism, and AnCap developed out of Austrian economics not anarchism. It's a meme.

Fucking kys. Worldwide federation means anti white. Federation like that means that we must significantly lower our standards of living.

kys

Sweden Yes!

How is protecting property aggression? Who are you aggressing by owning property? And what mental gymnastics do you use to define reactionary defense as aggression?

Yes, which makes ''anarcho'' communism a retarded concept and ''anarcho capitalism'' is just redundant. If we lived in an anarchist society it would be a capitalist society because people like owning things and trading.

I mean theoretically the collective geist would just do said things naturally.
But this all comes from the fact that Marx was a hack and totally misinterpreted Hegel.

>violate NAP
>get fucked

No better system to me

Yes, as long as you're not an anarcho communist or some other snowflake. Those ideologies ban all other forms of anarchism through a democratic government. Yes they are that retarded.

neanderthals =/= humans
they are a completely different species that existed at the same time.
fucking juan

A uniform currency doesn't have to be administered by a state, people were trading with currencies (mostly gold & tobacco) long before governments began issuing official fiat currencies.

I'm not defending anarchism, just saying that commonly-accepted currencies can be adapted without a state.

and communism is based on state regulations (super contracts that are non negotiable outside a macroscopic level)
Wouldn't Communism be even further away from anarchy?

Besides, you could even argue that contracts aren't inherent to capitalism, since they need some sort of superior authority to back them, thus making contracts inherent to state, and NOT capitalism

Strong AnCap fag here dropping some knowledge for y'all.

>You wake up in your shitty life as usual
>Better pay your bills today
>Or else government
>Or else imprisonment
>Or else foreclosure
>Better pay your taxes
>Better work at your shitty job
>Better give up a portion of your earnings
>MUH ROADZ
>Wait in traffic
>MUH ROADZ
>Pay tolls
>Pay traffic ticket
>Suck cop dick
>Repeat "I am free"
>Be a cuck

Who decides who owns that property in the first place?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts
Protip: it required the use of state violence, as did capitalism generally throughout its development.

Now there's nothing wrong with state violence inherently but don't be a faggot hypocrite.

This thread is missing a lot of black-and-yellow

This.

I've never understood anarcho-communism, it seems like a contradiction in terms.

Anarcho-communism is easily more retarded.

At least with Anarcho-capitalism, it's actually a legitimate and possible style of society. It might be a Mad Max style wasteland society, but a society none the less.

Anarcho-Communism not only defies human nature but relies on a literally impossible outcome in the removal of scarcity to even become remotely possible as a society.

Anarchy is the best system, as it is the system that we evolved in.

That's why foreign relations should never ever be liberal.

>is and has been opposed to capitalism
but how?

An caps are libertarians that went too far, and an coms are a contradiction.
Contradictions are more retarded than going too far.

>anarcho-anything
>not completely retarded

Yes, communism is a stateless, classless and moneyless society and it hasn't been tried on a large scale in recent history. This is what the commies mean and it's not hard to understand.

It's still a stupid idea but they're not wrong

Protectionism

"Hey. Let's voluntarily cut our country off from trade, technology and advancement!"

Ancom, because it doesn't even work with totalitarian governments, so how can it work without a government at all?

I mean you can start here
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

definetly ancap. there is no point in having a state if you have your own rights on your territory. ancom is without doubt less autistic

I bet you feel so smart in your libtard cuckold society, leaf. How is that socialism treating you? You're gonna need all the healthcare you can get to retrieve the dicks from your ass.

The only argument against anarchism is
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anarchism is about following your true will with respect for the liberty of others. It is about having the right to stand up for yourself and being able to tell all of the normie faggots to stay off your lawn, instead of crying to the government about your entitlements.

Anarchy is about being able to bake a goddamn cake without EPA regulation and telling the gay couple they can't have any. Anarchy is about all the SJW filth becoming an hero, while the rest of us glorious master race evolve.

All the developed countries of the world are not Anarchist-Capitalist or Libertarian.

Anarcho-communism is also utterly retarded but they basically believe that people would share everything willingly.

>Anarchy is about letting individual people be gay because that's their rights as individuals and then hanging those gay people because the majority of individual people agreed they should be hung because that's their right as individuals

The idea is that everyone owns everything and there's no need for anyone to govern.
''Anarcho'' communism is basically just communism as it's described in theory.

What these idiots refuse to admit is that no matter how you look at it, you can't remove the government from communism.
The moment you don't have any government everyone just goes back to hogging stuff for themselves and taking care of their own families, instead of slaving away for the ''greater good'' and sharing everything with the entire country.

How does it feel to support 2 contradicting ideologies?

Both rely on heavy autism and on reducing all of society to a single principle.

>suck capitalist dick whole your life
>suck society-mind dick whole your life
I don't even know who is worse. I think AnCap world would look like FALLOUT or even Borderlands when AnCom world would look like Brave New World. I'd prefer a second one - at least it's safer.
But AnCap is more realistic scenario because it's simple as fuck. Bet all whites definitely would be raped and dead in AnCap society.

You forgot the part where you have to suck up like a dog to your boss Mr Goldberg so he doesn't cut your wages because you have no workers rights.

I don't. I believe in your right to be retarded, as well as my right to tell you that you are retarded. Just don't try to force your retardation on me. That's the best part of Anarchy. It is happening right now whether you like it or not.

Except that is murder, and it is against human rights. But you know that is already how it is. So, welcome to the real world.

The only issue is that neither would work since there is nothing to enforce them.

AnCap would look at the very best like a run of the mill piece of cyberpunk media and at the very worst like Somalia, AnCom can't exist for more than a week before it degenerates into something completely different and that is assuming it can exist at all on a large scale.

This is effectively what I assumed, but then I doubted myself because it made no sense.

I want to debate with one of it's followers only for the entertainment value of what comes out of their mouth.

You forgot the part where I don't have to bow to anyone, and I just leave my job and live on my compound. Cuz I'm not a cuck.

>Business crashes because no workers
>All workers left to be paid living wages
>I still eat and jack off with your tears

Putting your shit ethnic before humankind as a whole?

Pan-human populism is the only true ideology going forward, all others are tribalism.

Problem is there's no aliens to kill yet so it is very hard to break the common man out of the ethno-slave mold.

>not owning recreational thermonuclear weapons
>2016

>and it is against human rights.
Whoa! What the fuck is this government regulation preventing me to my right to business?

Care to inform me of any more GOVERNMENT regulations in your free-market capitalist society?

What if a road is built shoddy and someone dies because of it? They chose to ride on my cheap roads thus accepted my terms and conditions the moment they set foot on it. I AM absolved of any legal guilt, yes?

Just go on /leftypol/. This is the kind of shit they believe in.
These people have worse understanding of communism than the regular commie libtards.

They also spend all day circlejerking about Sup Forums talking shit about us, how we're so dumb for thinking race is relevant, how we're just falling for evil capitalist tricks, how we don't understand economics etc.
I also saw a thread where some guy was butthurt because the jew youtuber h3h3 made fun of feminism.

Except his business is fine because the vast majority of people would rather work for shit then starve on some "compound" and worst case scenario he hires chinks and Indians.

Ancap is less retarded and could be viable in an apocalyptic society. Ancom is just batshit insane and full of contradictions.

AnCap is not "viable" in the sense that it would become a sort of Minarchism pretty quickly, in which the most powerful corporations effectively take the role of the government.

Capitalism

> you can't remove the government from communism
Can. Originally soviets was some sort of ultra-democratic, decentralized tool but Stalin and Khrushchev cut all their privileges and power. Even head of party had a title secretary to make it clear that he hasn't power. But you know, it's Russia so there is any idea going to become authoritarian peace of shit.
Nope. In AnCap I can just hit you or kill your mom, enslave you or do whatever I want if there are nobody to protect you (forgot to pay a bill for security service? get you throat open on very next day)
Think you are right. USSR was a good sample of it but red at least know how to protect anybody; to graveyard sometimes.

> I think AnCap world would look like FALLOUT or even Borderlands when AnCom world would look like Brave New World. I'd prefer a second one

It's cute how statists think movies and video games are real, it fits you since you are basically children asking for an adult to take care of you.

How do they plan to run any economic system with anarchism?

Untrue... Ancaps believe in a completely free market for currency with multiple competing private providers. E.g. gold, silver, cryptocurrency... corresponding bank notes, coinage, etc.

They will make decisions based on "consensus" and democracy or something. Anarcism is a joke nobody takes those autists seriously

>anarchy
>plan

Well, that's their prerogative. They can starve and suffer, and the business can flourish. I won't spend any of my money on it, and I'll still be happy putting in real work on my farm with my guns. The weak suffer and cucks are cucked. You want me to be sad?

It's the same scenario in your Democratic society, but the business leader is gonna use government to be subsidized and legally bind me to purchase his goods.

By the way, homesteading was how our ancestors survived for generations before your powerless trog-ass crawled into this world.

No government regulation. It is free will. Gays will unite against you and take up arms. I will support their uprising and kill you for the lols.

I have no remorse for fools who die. And I feel no pity for the weak. If they want to whore themselves for UR ROADZ, so be it. I won't, and I'll probably just undermine your roads.

AnCap primitive enough to compare them with vg. I never heard anything that have even a bit of sense from AnCap-fags. For me thay are some retarded, childish version of minarchists.

>and it is against human rights
Pretty spooky

All the developed countries of the world embraced classical liberalism at some point in their history (mainly on the economic, religious, and individual rights front) which was the progenitor of libertarianism.

The US at founding was basically a minarchist project, where the ONLY role of govt was to protect life, liberty and property of its citizens.

Capitalism cannot exist without the state.

An-caps are fascists who like weed.

This

Take a look at South Korea (shadow government made up by 8 incredibly wealthy turbofeminist twats and the president admitted on live TV that she is their puppet), that shit is straight out of a bad manga.