Minimum Wage Thread

>librals think this deserves $15/hr

Its not about people deserving the wage. Its about the benefits for the economy

But I make $25h/r making those

There are none other than minimum wage slaves voting for libshits.

Inflating the cost of literally everything?

A fucking leaf, ladies and gentlemen!

>Trumptards thinks Trump will look out for poor people and make jobs for everyone again

WTF i hate minimum wage now

it wouldn't benefit the economy if people did not output productivity worth $15/hr. There's a bufferzone where you could feasibly increase it without any effect on employment but I have seen little evidence that pushing it all the way to $15/hr is productive at all for the economy.

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My state just bumped it up to 11 and I don't want more taxes and my job is already cutting back on people and hours because of it

Automation will solve this in 20 years. Living wage is the only reasonable long term solution short of euthanasia

>swedes think thy will have a population left after 2100 while being raped by refugees

>Hur dur argument I don't like
>Fucking liberals lolololol

hey at least they bothered to toast the buns, that's pretty rare where I live

Increasing wages means we are getting closer to basic income

The only problem with a federal minimum wage is that $ has different values across America. $15/hr isn't shit in Los Angeles or New York, but it's probably too much for South Dakota.

we're gonna need basic income once the next tech revolution is done

Which is why the federal minimum wage should be abolished and minimum wages should be handled at the state level.

How many jobs actually pay minimum wage? Even wal mart and McDonald's in my area are paying about a dollar above minimum

This is why it takes 1.5 maple bucks to make a real dollar

he gave you reason though, just followed it up with an insult.

>just got a raise to 15/hr
>now put on salary.

Rip overtime.

Almost all small businesses pay minimum wage

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my 10 $ wage makes a 10 $ cost hamburger, if wage goes up to 15$, than hamburger cost goes up to 15 $, what does that add to the economy ?
i can still only buy one hamburger ?

And you pay 95 shitty aussie dollars for one.

1 Shitpost dollar = .73 Burger dollars

No reason to encourage unskilled labor. It's supposed to be shit tier money to motivate your dumb ass.

I went from $7.35/hr in 1997 @ McDs to $44/hr in a major utility... got my GED and good to go

You didn't refute inflated cost, all you did was attack the insult. Lurk moar fag

Minimum wage wouldn't increase item costs because competition would drive prices down.

What minimum wage would do, is provide more spending money to the middle class which would then be injected back into our economy. I.E. the stimulus package we were suppose to get.

Dont reply to bait posts you dumb niggers.

>raise min wage
>get fired because your company can't afford to pay for you

>minimum wage
>middle class
Nigger what?

I have a hard time turning down a chance to insult a leaf

he just wants a (you)

pretty much

So raising the minimum wage would hurt small businesses

I would say there should be some formula that the feds could provide as a template for states. Leaving it up to the states creates a hellish competition for who can go the lowest and attract big business.

Why would you not want lower income and goods/services tax? It would make you get paid more while making things cost less.

Yea I should know better

stop buying burgers, dummy

Would you rather them quit and sign up for government handouts?

>conservatives think their countrymen should live in destitution

It deserves around $11/hr from simply adjusting minimum wage to account for inflation

>Would you rather them quit and sign up for government handouts?
No more hand outs.

>conservatives think their countrymen should live in destitution
I don't consider the human garbage that work fast food jobs for long term as countrymen

>deserves
It deserves whatever the market can afford

Bill Clinton gutted the fuck out of welfare. The only handouts now are food stamps, worthless Obamacare, and unemployment which isn't even a real handout since we pay for it

implying I don't
*flexes deepfryer technician major and a minor in burger artistry certificate*

excellent. now i can start my own sweatshop that benefit from hard labor for pennies on the dollar

work for me or starve

And what happens when a large portion of the population can't afford basic needs on minimum wage?

The market already gets plenty of free government handouts

>The only handouts now are food stamps, worthless Obamacare, and unemployment which isn't even a real handout since we pay for it
Then what the fuck is all this Obamaphone and people getting benefits for kids bullshit?

Define basic needs.

if you can con or force an employer to pay you what you want you've earned it

why do you care what some one else makes anyway? Just looking for ways to feel superior?

>work for me or starve
>work or starve
Yes. Exactly.

Not my problem

>redistributing the wealth makes the economy better

>im mad but have no idea why

Except you want some people to both work and starve.

>work for me or starve

welcome to reality

no steb on snek

now here comes the other thing. you can't force me to give employment to everyone. i only want to pay X for labor, and don't need more

>raising the price of everything and fucking up every market in the book
>benefits for the economy
Can we convince Trudeau to ban Sup Forums from Canada so this shit doesn't happen?

Housing, food, water, power, and maybe internet.

Is that a bad thing? I doubt states would go retardedly low like $2/hr just at the opportunity to attract a business. Aside from illegals (which won't be here under Trump), who would work for less than like $5/hour? CEOs are much smarter than I am, I'm sure they'd find a wage that would better their profits and keep their workers happy enough to prevent them from leaving en masse, because if not then their business won't do so well

>why do you care what some one else makes anyway? Just looking for ways to feel superior?
It'll increase costs of goods and decrease my buying power

>internet
>but not healthcare

>T. Armchair economist

>Go to McDonalds
>Order a McDouble without cheese
>Get a McDouble with cheese
>ask if they can give me a McDouble without cheese
>They give me a "plain" McDouble, which is literally roll and meat, nothing else
>They are bamboozled when I ask them to fix it, and they angrily oblige

And that's the story of how Chick Fil A became my horrible life choice restaurant

Some people deserve exactly that

What's the connection here?

I don't get this argument, robots need to be constructed, taken care of and constantly repaired. This closed some jobs but created new ones. And even then not everyone can afford robots, sometimes it's more cost efficent to hire workers, especially for small factories.

Well I don't have a economics degree so yea

>unions make some cuts to convince the factory not to shut down
>make factory sign a contract that they cannot move away to china or mexico etc for the next X years
>if factories can't move they now have an incentive to invest in automation and only employ a fraction of the people they used to need
>union makes further pay cuts to convince the factory to stay

>VOTE REPUBLICAN TO SAVE OUR JOBS

>republicans kill off unions with Right to Work laws

WAAAAAAAAAAAAH PLEASE COME BACK MY FAMILY NEEDS THOSE $25/hr + BENEFITS CAUSE MY REPUBLICAN STATE DIDNT EXPAND MEDICAID BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE OBAMA LOOK GOOD AND NOW I CANT AFFORD MY DIABETES MEDICATION WAAAH MR. TRUMP THROW THOSE MAGICAL TARIFFS AND MAKE THEM COME BACK, AND NO ROBOTS SO THEY CAN HIRE MORE OF US LIKE BACK IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS. AND MAKE THEM COME BACK TO RURAL MIDDLE OF NOWHERE INSTEAD OF MAJOR TRADE HUBS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SAVE ON TRANSPORTATION. AND ALSO NO COLLEGE DEGREES REQUIRED!

Until they turn to crime in desperation and try to rob/harm you. Maybe you'll defend yourself but has more and more people become desperate, society will start to crumble.

Is that comic implying that socialists don't pay taxes? Because if they do, that's redistribution of wealth.

I'm pro harsh penalties for criminals. We could keep it in line with enough effort

nice meme

there's only so much work that needs to be done, because of labor saving devices, etc. once we pass that threshold, i'm not going to hire anyone else as its just me giving out money for useless unproductive work.

as long as there's more people than jobs, you create a state in which you work, steal or starve. its cheaper to just give everyone an apple than to have someone steal 10 bushels of them

All of which you can do with 8$/h whats the problem? Btw Housing isnt a basic need. You dont have a right to have an apartment if you are a burger fliper.

The reason why most people get angry about min wage increases is because they feel it some how devalues there own labor

feeling like your a better person than a McEmployee is literally 90% of arguments ITT

fuck off brainwashed corporate shills

>raise minimum wage
>with open borders
>mfw corporations hire illegals at $1/hr to replace the victim studies whiners

Minimum wage should be abolished so as to not price workers out of a job entirely. This opens up opportunities for teenagers and no-skill workers to get in and develop skills, raises increases the spending power of higher earners, lowers the price of goods due to companies being able to be more competitive, and drives up the minimum they'll pay you as companies will now compete for workers that have plenty of options.

>le human garbage meme

>Be me, teenager working McDs, laying pipe on the white hotties
>Oregon McDs so no nogs thank God!
>Use to have plebs come in and request a cheeseburger no cheese
>I reply, so a hamburger right?
>Nope... they get pist and say a cheese burger WITH NO CHEESE
>They ask me "whats so hard about my job"?
>I go back to the Q'ing station (8kw microwaves) and spit on their "hamburgers" personally before we nuke em

Joined the Navy 6 months later

Minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage

Yeah but for every robot installer/repair man 10 guys lose their job and eventually small factories will also be able to buy the robots

Gibsmedat industrial complex

exactly

>society goes to shit
>"not my problem lol"
ebin

>le human garbage meme
>he thinks it's a meme

Who the fuck makes minimum wage besides dumb kids? Every factory pays more and min wage jobs have all kinds of programs to help old drug addicts who work at mcdonalds for 15 years to become managers etc.

> Too stupid to spell "queue"
> Joined the Navy

Checks out.

>people deserve to work and starve

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The 'special sauce' that they put on white people's food has already dried on yours! That's really fucked up!

>Tfw had to file for unemployment for the first time ever after having three minimum wage paying jobs

Thanks, Obama

turn your trip back on you fucking faggot.

god damn, i unblock the serbian flag for a day and you're already polluting the threads i'm in with the same boring schtick. back into the filter serbia goes

A few members of the scum class is hardly society

At that point you should think of social welfare spending as guillotine insurance.

Do these guys get paid $15? They should to be honest, I've never been disappointed with chik fil a

>The reason why most people get angry about min wage increases is because they feel it some how devalues there own labor
It does though you dunce, value is only determined by its level above the floor. If you raise the floor and the price of goods follow suit, then the gap between the floor and my wages are tightened and thus I can't afford as much as I previously could.