How would you fix Hollywood Studios?

How would you fix Hollywood Studios?

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Turn it back into a partly functioning film/tv studio?

This. And the animation studio while we're at it.

Universal has those and it's still pretty shit. The backlot tour is an excercise in 3D depression, and they tore down the fucking Gibson.

Controversial opinion coming through:
Completely remove any sort of studios/filmmaking theming and center the park all around feeling like you are truely in a movie. This already seems to be the direction they are taking it with Toystory Land and Galaxies Edge, but I think this idea could be even more fully realized. Focus more on the lands in the parks being immersive rather than only the rides within them.
Turn the area with Muppetvision into a full Muppetland. Walking through you could see things like certain Muppet animatronics peaking their heads through windows to crack jokes at people passing by, you could hear nonsense schenanigans going on behind fake doors, etc. Bring back the original idea for the Muppet themed restaurant too with the sweedish chef fucking around in an open kitchen. Have a live stage show using real puppets instead of horrifying costumed characters.
People are going to cruisify me for this one, but turn the Tower of Terror into the Guardians edition we got in California, and turn that little section of the park into Marvel Land where your child can become their very own superhero using the same technology as Galaxies Edge. Replace the RockNRollercoaster with a new ride where you can chose your own superhero power and the power they chose effects their ride experience. Either keep it a rollercoaster or maybe a darkride not unlike Space Ranger Spin where you use your powers to stop bad guys. Have the ride hosted by Captain Marvel (who yes, they have the park rights to and is going to be a massive hit once her movie comes out next year), but other than that make it a very general ride to avoid infringing on copyright. After that ride, walk-around characters, waiters at the restaurants, etc will all refer to you or your kid as their super hero name.
Remove the Chinese Theater facade and bring back the Sourcerer Hat to be the parks icon. And rename the park.
Instead of the proposed "Cinemagine" go with "Cinemersion" to highlight it's imersion

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Actually very good ideas. I was college program for six months and went to each park probably at least once a week. I'm not very big on rides (motion sickness), but I loved walking around Hollywood Studios and just chilling

Make Beastly Kingdom, for fuck's sake

>Remove the Chinese Theater facade and bring back the Sourcerer Hat to be the parks icon

Your idea may be right overall but my blood still boils reading this shit

I would miss it too. But let's face it it would be completely out of place in my proposed Park

Not a bad idea.
Watching animatirs at work eoukd be more interesting than the skeleton they've got now.

The only reason they closed Florida in the first place was Eisners power tripping.

turn it into arendelle

What I find strange is that Disney is so far up the ass of its own history and the overall fairy tale of Hollywood, but can't manage to represent this decently in a park. The Chinese Theater as a park icon is a unique and thoughtful move but they keep undermining it, first by putting that fucking hat in front of it, then gutting the ride about actual movies, and gradually changing the park as a whole until this centerpiece no longer makes sense. Anyone can build a collection of lands based on popular movies, given the rights; why does Disney make one great stride toward building an homage to the art as a whole & the fantasy of the time period, then undermine it with weak modern IP-based attractions? (I know why, but I can wish for them to get their shit together and have real vision again one day.)

Galaxy's Edge looks like it could be a game changer for design & immersion overall, but honestly, it should be its own park.

I really wonder what internal Disney thinks of the park.

Fans love it obviously, but let's not forget that the only reason it was made was as a petty backhand toward Universal Studios. I have a feeling that now that their rivalry is nowhere near as vicious, Disney is now trying to make something out of the park that is more than essentially a nockoff.

That's animal kingdom, but agreed

>but turn the Tower of Terror into the Guardians edition we got in California
Fuck no, I'm sick enough of the GotG as it is. Removing one of the few interesting rides for Marvel schlock is fucking disgusting.

They're definitely trying to keep up with Islands of Adventure. Galaxy's Edge is their response to Wizarding World. The big difference is IoA has thematic allowance for a random grouping of properties since they're distinct 'islands' which can keep expanding; the theme of 'studios' leads people to seek cohesion which just isn't there. You've got Hollywood theming spread over half the park and in the park's icon, but then Toy Story and Star Wars are clearly tacked on and the Muppets are criminally underused. The contrast between some lands being themed as real locations 'where movies are made' and others as simply being 'inside the movie world' is really grating-- I feel almost like just a little bit of added facade around the entry points could help to fix it, like you're entering a 'set', with the connected land logically being what would have built it (like the Pixar studio facade at Midway Mania). Thank god for the expansions bringing more actual attractions, since DHS is currently a fucking wasteland, but the lack of a consistent core vision, especially one that offers something actually noticeably different from Universal, chaps my fucking ass.

Like implied, they either need to choose one or the other. Studio theme or in-the-movies theme. I can't stand the missmatch of themes and ideas none of which work together. I never thought I'd see the day Tower of Terror feels out of place.

I do like your idea though. They COULD make it work if the idea was that you stepped through a movie studio into the movie itself. I wish that's what they would do. However that completely goes against their plans for Star Wars land where the idea is that you aren't in a star wars movie, you are in the star wars universe itself.

I just wish they would make up their fucking mind with this park. I can't believe it's gotten to the point where Pandora in Animal Kingdom feels more tonally consistent than the stuff going on in Hollywood Studios

I wish the stateside parks had the spine to keep hold of their lands & attractions that are based on ideas broader than just IP, especially the ones meant to evoke a time period. Sure, Tower of Terror is a Twilight Zone ride, but the reason it was placed in Studios in the first place is because it adds to the fantasy of old Hollywood. Disneysea's American Waterfront is the kind of thing I wish Studios would be willing to commit to with at least part of the park, rather than threatening to rip it out in favor of Marvel. Same with Epcot and its Arendelle bullshit, though I don't mind them bringing the Ratatouille ride over from Paris.

I had a problem with Epcot at first but I'm learning to give it a chance. The rides in the World Showcase are so far consistent, and even the Guardians ride in future world is being rumored to at least be about similar themes as Energy Adventure.

Pandora and Galaxy's Edge seem like incredible works, definitely on par with or surpassing Wizarding World-- Toy Story looks bland to me so far, but who knows-- but they're being shoved into parks not necessarily created to accommodate those ideas. There's no cohesion between the land and the park as a whole. I can excuse GE jammed into the back of Anaheim because they just don't have the space otherwise, but it's starting to feel like WDW might need a fifth park. Or if that would be too much expansion, DHS should essentially restart from scratch. It's promising that they're considering renaming it, but a new name needs to come with a completely new theme. Animal Kingdom has something it uniquely provides by being a zoo & meant to celebrate ALL living things, so even though Pandora has always seemed like a bizarre move, it falls resolutely within the theme's footprint. It may be time for theme parks to admit that a studio theme is just too narrow and rapidly becomes a shitty collage. Maybe it could be rebooted to be about creative/performing industries in general, with a significant Golden Age of Hollywood presence, but space for animation & theater as well.

Fix Epcot first

>World needs a fifth park

Not that I disagree, but I also can't help but feel like it would just have the same problems that the other parks are currently having with regards to the tone. If you have a new park, that park still needs to have some sort of theme. I couldn't see a new park fixing HS' problems without having the same problems itself.

Maybe what we need is just a second fucking magic kingdom. Throw all theming conventions out the window and say "here is the park where we dump all the ideas that don't fit into one of the other 4"

I miss how MGM was with it being a way to promote some of the Touchstone productions of the late 80s and 90s

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Pretty much. Magic Kingdom & OG Disneyland work (mostly) because the lands are genres and time periods, so there's flexibility, and the transitions between them go smoothly enough because of genre blending and a general suspension of disbelief. Even Epcot works in terms of representing pieces of what an ideal community would have, like "here's what our world already offers and what we should take with us into the future." Or at least that's how I take it.

A theme built to expand goes a long way; if they can just phrase it right, a 'second Magic Kingdom' (whether as a Studios reboot or a fifth park) could be pulled off without actually looking like a jumbled overflow park.

Epcot needs hell of a lot less "fixing" than HS does

Regarding studios lack of themeing... maybe make it a celebration of media?

>Old Hollywood: Sunset Blvd, the theme it had to begin with. "Main Street" with performers and themed as a movie set, complete with director chatter as you enter the park. Action!
>World Arcade: step through a facade of a Family Entertainment Center into a tribute to electronic games of all kinds. Tron Coaster, Wreck It Ralph Restaurant, and a motion sim that has you inside a pinball machine. Bright, showy, the "cool" land.
>Page's Edge: Tribute to Literature. Noir themed stage show, Shakespearean themed coffee shop, and a horror ride that takes guests through Edgar Allen Poe's mind.
>TVLand: Tribute to TV shows with a focus on cartoons. New home of the 50s Prime Time Diner and a motion sim that updates to whatever the most popular Disney XD cartoon is at the time.

I could see this. Not to mention Disney has content in all sorts of media that isn't represented in the parks

Pandora honestly would have fit better in Hollywood Studios

I'm amazed they didn't put it there in the first place. Like, who's idea was it to place it in Animal Kingdom? Feels odd

From a business standpoint AK needed more attractions and SW is already coming to HS, plus it kinda fits because of the preservation theme
It's less weird than GOTG being in Epcot anyway

Honestly guardians makes more sense in Epcot than Ellen did

Am I the only mother fucker who absolutely hates soaring? Did we really need a 2nd one in animal kingdom? The experience is even worse if you don't get the perfect seat and it's the same old tired motion simulator ride that's been around for decades now you are just up in the air.

I don't mind it. It's not like Disney is oversatutated with screen rides like Universal so I'm not too upset when we get one. Specifically Animal Kingdom which didn't have any to begin with.
That being said I'd much rather they put the money into making River Journey a more worthwhile experience

Literally the only thing Epcot-y about Guardians is its vague resemblance to Captain EO.

Ellen was an odd choice to host Universe of Energy, but the whole point of picking her and Bill Nye was to make the education more approachable versus the really dry narration of the original show.

I heard somewhere that the guardians ride is still going to maintain the same theme as Ellens energy adventure. Hopefully that's true because I can deal with IPs in the parks as long as they are thematically consistent.

At most I've heard that the word "Universe" is still gonna be in the title. Like there's claims that the current working title is "Guardians of the Galaxy: Infinite Universe" and the main coaster experience of the ride is essentially another Space Mountain.

That's dissapointing

there not actually calling it cinemagine and id love a muppet land
>ruin the original tower of terror the GOAT ride
im sorry no gotg in cali is fine we dont need it in florida
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Yea after they closed down the animation studio, removed the tour, and closed the tv studio I cannot really see the point behind the park any longer.

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I would shift all of the traditional Disney mascot stuff and majority of their animation related things like the princesses, animated movie mascots etc to Magic Kingdom.

And all the live stuff from all their movies and maybe live tv if it is popular enough should be in Hollywood studios. Everything they have a hand on movie-wise like Star Wars, MCU, Live Disney movies (not the live versions of their animated stuff) but stuff like Tron or Witch Mountain and maybe stuff from their other companies like Touchstone, Dimension, Hollywood Pictures, Buena Vista and Miramax could be here.

Imagine a Kevin Smith or Tarantino section,

Had a professor that worked in the animator zoo in the early 00's. He said they all hated it.

I wish there was a Disney horror series it could be replaced with. Keep the tower of Terror asthetic but change the theme and area around it. Im not a fan of a single random Twilight Zone ride next to a random Rock N Roll ride white the rest of the park is now broken into lands. It feels dissjointed

It was definitely made to be competition to Universal. They had a very unique idea in the early 90's with having studios right there on the lot and park guests could go view live filming of tv series. Back when Nickelodeon was on board it was pretty great for kids. You would think Disney would have gotten on board and had something similar to that with their legions of tween shows.

Maybe one of 20th foxes properties

Oh man, I had no clue Goosebumps was a thing.
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Also what's the thing in front of the Great Movie Ride in this pic?

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How have I never heard of this?

>the very great Oriental magician, Wu Lang Yu
It was a different time.

>Keep the Great Movie Ride, maybe update it with scenes from movies that had been released since the ride opened
>Turn Star Wars Launch Bay back into a Disney Animation focused pavilion and a real animation studio (Just hire some interns to work on the new Disney Channel Mickey Mouse shorts and let people watch them. Can't be that hard or expensive.)
>Turn the area that used to be Streets of America into a Muppets themed land. Keep Muppetvision 3D and also add The Great Muppet Ride and a stage show featuring the Muppets in person
>Instead of Toy Story Land, have an entire Pixar area as basically what the Disney Animation building is but for Pixar. Toy Story Mania can stay but also have rides based on other Pixar movies instead of just more Toy Story. The Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor that's currently in Magic Kingdom could be moved here.
>I don't know where it would go but a new Toontown for this park would be great. It could be more based off the location from Who Framed Roger Rabbit in order to better fit with the Hollywood theme. Have a tunnel that leads into the land like in the movie. Bring over the Roger Rabbit ride from Disneyland's Toontown and the new Mickey ride could go there as well. This would be the section of the park that just has a bunch of rides for little kids as well since there isn't really much of that anywhere else.
This would all be a good start anyway, I would think.

20th Century Studios

Rename it MGM Studios, also make it Disneys Premiere "Adult" park, by Adult I mean more Adult based rollercoasters and rides, less kiddy rides that are all over disney. MGM is my favorite park though, I love everything about it, from classic cinema to the rides, to the themeing and star wars land with it's interactive rides and games looks extremely promising.

There's nothing to even connect the park to MGM anymore.

This. Their contact is long over

>I cannot really see the point behind the park any longer.
It's going to be literally nothing but Tower of Terror, Rock and Roller Coaster, and Star Wars and Pixar in five years' time.

Actually what is it now?

I laughed when "XL Park" was one of the name change options, imagine walking into a theme park called XL but there's only four rides and it takes 2 hours to tour the whole thing

Don't pretend you liked universe of energy. It was an attraction about sustainable energy hosted by an oil company, you can't say that's thematically consistent

FoP is GOAT. New soarin is a disappointment however. Over California actually had a pretty consistent view of the screen no matter where you were seated, can't be said for around the world's warped Eiffel Tower

Universal obviously doesn't care about the consistent theme anymore either. I haven't been in years, but looking online it's just a mishmash of IP-based simulators strewn around the park, there's no consistency to each "land"

>went to Studios when they were making Hercules
>saw all the concept art and storyboard on the walls

That was some kino art

XL Park was honestly probably the worst name out of all of them

I haven't seen the new soarin. Is it really worse than the original?

Tower of Terror, Rock and Roller Coaster, and Star Wars.

I would only make movies that cater to my fantasy LGBT tastes and see them be successful thanks to deceptive marketing