Richard Spencer

Let's settle this divide once and for all.
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> be richard spencer
> being in the nationalist movement for 15 years
> newfags call you a plant

Leslie jones is queen of the alt right

Did Sup Forums design this logo? Because it looks like a merchant to me

he is discrediting the entire right in the west by his stupid retarded "heil trump" "heil victory" stormweeb LARPing garbage, he needs to fucking kill himself and fuck off forever

What is happening is not the end of the alt right, quite the opposite.

Trump is becoming the new normal, so something even further to the right must rise.

I can't believe we won this much.

very subtle but i see it.

> hhmm these guys are right, the western world is commiting demographic suicide. the future of my children is the one of a hated minority...
> WTF HE SAID HEIL TRUMP! I HATE MY CHILDREN NOW!!!!!!!!!

We're not "Alt-Right" dumbass.

We're "New Right".

> If not for Richard Spencer the 'future of your children' is fucked. You certainly can't do it without following spergy retards.

This.

spencer is just a moron who cares more about self-publicity than he does anything else.

>t. Former Alt-Right eceleb who left when it became clear no one would challenge Spencer

you are the exact same shill poster from last night

fuck off

by doing salute stuff shamelessly, you are defusing it, people don't even trust the media anymore. how the hell are people still getting scared, jumping ship and causing divisions just over a bit of bad press from the dishonest media about the fun had by people at the biggest NPI ever.

I never said that isn't what's going on, but stormfag LARPing isn't the way to go about you dumb faggot. Neo Nazi movements are completely discredited in the West and if he turns the alt right into one, he's fucking over all the right wing people that joined up with the movement, and essentialy destroying it. He's a huge fucking idiot. He also said during the election that if Trump continues to "cuck out" he may stop supporting him, but suddenly he's Heiling Trump? Fucking two-faced dumb fag apologizer.

i didn't say that the future of your children depends on Spencer

I said that any person that already sees the demographic reality of the west won't suddenly have second thoughts about the future of his children because someone sperged out

>Neo Nazi movements are completely discredited in the West
who do you think causes this kike?

I didn't even post on here last night you dumb faggot, and he's sure defused it. Have you seen the fucking media outrage, and the normie outrage? It's discrediting the entire movement that got Trump elected, even Trump had to disavow it himself.

There is an opportunity here. They're building up the Alt-Right and Richard Spencer as the new KKK to serve their "fuck whitey" narrative.

Trump can use their own bullshit to counter the "literally Hitler" memes.

We're supervillains now.

Destroying what exactly? What the hell are you talking about?

Sup Forums is not going to stop being Spencer sperged

Milo won't stop being an edgy faggot because Spencer sperged

TRS won't stop fashy creating memes because Spencer sperged

The fact that only autistic spergs or iq 80 rednecks join them, no self--respecting white would associate with that kind of trash.

Destroying the entire movement that got Trump elected, which Sup Forums is heavily involved in, whether you wanna call it Alt Right or New RIght or just the Right.

* Sup Forums is not going to stop being politically incorrect Spencer because sperged

yes you did you fucking shitcunt czech poster

you were one of the main shills along with one or two aus flag posters.

There's a group of just a few of you cunts on here either shilling or just trolling this Richard Spencer is a plant shit and that Sup Forums can't be racist or nazi-LARPers anymore and waaahhh waahhh muh discredited movement i'm so scared about how the press will spin us shit

If a sketchy "university" and outright offensive comments about women didn't end that movement, why will a few guys sperging end it now?

Or it could possibly be because white nationalism is fucking retarded. Just go check stormfront, the twats can't even agree on what constitute "whiteness" as they're too busy shitting over one another with "WE WUZ" tier theories like nordicism and the likes.

You got to establish basic nationalism as acceptable first before sperging about racial identity. Put the cart before the horse.

prove it you fucking schizo
I don't think you know what the public perception is of Neo-Nazis, if Trump came out as one he'd have NEVER EVER been elected.

Digits confirmed. This is all the medias pandering to divide us.
just sit back and enjoy the shit show.
Praise kek.

> muh civic nationalism

why did the tories ever do besides letting net immigrations reach new records every year?

Owo what this?

>be shill from panama
>worship a queer guru closet naziboo
>get assblasted when his crush is rightfully shit on by Sup Forums after he tried to hijack the Trump movement and fed the medias with the biggest strawman in years

Cry more faggot

There was no unified "movement" that got Trump elected.

Who gives a shit about race if they're properly integrated and westernized? Even Hitler, who I'm assuming you love, had tons of divisions that weren't white (poo in loos, blacks, even chinks)

and the only way to make it more credible again is by joining them if you are a high IQ individual and contributing to their discourse to lift it up to a higher standard. You don't run away from things because you are scared of how dumb people perceive it, you get in there yourself and portray it as intelligent.

I'm sorry to tell you but every movement and culture has its retarded plebs, they are the majority of people in the world and they are inescapable. You cannot make a successful movement if it doesn't attract the lowest common denominator because the average fucking 90% is stupid.

You are a weak-willed little bitch that can only cling to ideas that you feel safe and comfortable with, worried about what everyone else thinks of and perceives of you.

Autism

>muhhh strawman for the media

jokes on you for even caring about what the media thinks

the media are a joke, they have no credibility after Trump was elected.

No, it wasn't unified, that's for sure, but it was there. Cooperation between different media and internet groups got him elected.

>>former eceleb
prove it faggot

saged

You are welcome to post in this thread and to praticipate in this survey, provided to you by the JIDF

> not understanding how ethnic multiculturalism and multiethnicism lead to societal chaos

m8, serbs and croats are basically the same, yet watch them go at each other's throat

it may be strange for you because you live in a homogeneous country, but people are actually tribal, and specially so in multi-culti countries

>you don't run away from things because you are scared
You don't step on shit on purpose either, I'm not scared of it you dumb cunt I don't want to be associated with such trash.

Anyone who says he is a leftist plant is a newfag who needs to read more right-wing shit. Also add more options OP they're fucking shit.

fuck of shills


saged

That's not what I'm talking about, they're different nationalities and will always have a rivalry, there's nothing to be done about that, and it's not a pressing issue.

Considering the west is finally making an proper switch towards nationalism, you want to wreck it in its infancy because you can't handle waiting for the everton window to do its shifting?

You can't change the mind of the populace overnight, even with successes of Trump and Brexit. Sorry reality sucks and bursts your meme bubble. The last thing we need is empowering our autists by making them our spokesmen.

sounds like you are a little bitch and only want to be associated with soft cunts, opportunists book salesmen like Cernovich and other losers.

fuck off spencer shills
I don't want to be associated with the ideology of national socialism because it's a shit ideology, but that's not what we're arguing about here.

> You can't change the mind of the populace overnight
> what are the 1960s?

granted, we dont have the media, but we have the internet

it proves that even minor ethnic differences are enough to make society chaotic

You talk about westernized hindus and vietnamese, but being westernized means shit in this era of endless identities

Unless you mean something like those immigrants becoming leftists and loving faggots and trannies, is that being westernized?

or what do you mean exactly?

please, enlighten me on what other options there should be

>as long and everyone acts like Americans European replacement is ok

Kys globalist

then dont associate yourself with it!

who the fuck is forcing you?

Czech republic does not even have a reason to embrace anything close to alt-right, you guys are like 99.999 % white

You talk as if this alt-right thing was a political party or some sort!

By westernized I mean that they can properly speak the language of their country, have an average IQ of over 100 and forget their old nationality, and don't bring in ideas from their old countries, also, this can never happen with first generation immigrants.

so what is your actual ideology?

because you sound like conviction-less fence-sitting bitch that is too retarded to commit to anything or make up their mind about something without worrying what other people think

or your just some naive, straight outta gamergate anti-SJW underageb& that needs to fuck off and go jack off to your fedora-tier ecelebs

>fuck off spencer shills
We already did this, we dont need more

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YOU FUCK OFF PLEBBIT CANCER

that is all good, I mean, that means you are a tory or a mainstream republican

but what does your position have to do with the alternative right as Spencer coined it in 2010?

There is no legal way to go about deporting all minorities, stop fantasizing. I'm being realistic here, I want them integrated and the rest I want to remain white, in fact I believe in blocking third world immigration to first world countries completely.

Different Internet and media groups that have nothing to do with eachother anyway but shared a temporary goal. It's you cuckservatives who ran with our memes and name and are now flooding Sup Forums, not the other way around. Go and do your thing, go and plead and grovel to the media about how you love black dick and legal immigration and are just against "SJW"s. Disassociate yourself because you are the ones making the connection when there isn't any.

Bump

> I want them integrated
> I want to remain white

that works when you have 0.01 % immigrants

your recipe would mean the absolute mongrelization of countries with large amounts of arabs and blacks like USA and France

It's divide and conquer 101, all the redditors that (stupidly) endorsed the "alt right" banner that the MSM kept throwing on them are now panicking because they don't want to be assimilated with your hitlerboo for the obvious reason that noone like nazis, it's probably the most hated brand in history.

So now you have thre things happening:
- the normies we managed to bring in our influence sphere and slowly redpill during the campaign are either leaving the boat or are stucked in this mess, virtue signaling to damage control, both case it makes Trump and his supporter on the defensive (he had to disavow yesterday), in short you broke the implicit alliance between young conservatives and white nationalists
- the medias has finally the silver bullet they always craved about to divide the movement, they find their "alt right" face giving neo-nazi boogeyman speeches

You faggots probably thought you pushed the Overton window on the right but you did the exactly fucking opposite at the exact same moment we reached peak momentum with Trump election and Bannon in the White House, all of that for your faggot to have more shekels in the account.

Fair enough. Czech Republic is largely Czech anyway. I know you can't deport all minorities it's more about the retention of ethnic identity that's important, I also believe we could create an environment where many leave willingly.

This aussie seems to be forcing me to join Neo-Nazi groups or otherwise I'm a spineless faggot, according to him.
Paleoconservative.
See above
I don't associate myself with the alt right, what so ever, but I know that Sup Forums is thrown into that bracket and any sort of nationalist is, which is why I don't want it discredited because it's a genuine way for right-wingers to unite in favor of one cause, like Brexit or Trump's election.

you realise that second and third generation immigrants (especially muslim) that grow up with identity issues are the most likely to be radicalised and violent than their assimilated and/or talented 10% parents right?

Western culture is so weak and abstract right now that it isn't even potent enough to make people assimilate anymore, especially when they can just stay connected to their home culture and people on the internet regardless of where they are in the world.

A return to racial identity politics and ethnocentric nationalism is required.

Not any of this milk-toast civic nationalism, the Overton window will never shift back in our favour with such weak ideology.

Oy sure schlomo you first impulse was to writte goyim out

Not when you'd remove welfare and social grants completely. Blacks and other minorities would never be able to outbreed whites ever again, just due to the percentage of successful whites compared to the percentage of successful minorities.

What alliance?

What positions of power were alt-righters promised in exchange for Trump support?

The wall will be a fence, H1B visas won't be stopped, muslim ban will be vetting for Syria, Lybia and Iraq, no one actually believed he was going to do any of that stuff, so talking about broken promises is idiotic

his function was to prove that you can still win by paying attention to the white working class, and open the door for future radicals

nothing more

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In that case they're not integrated, if they're still Muslim and should be deported.
What you're proposing will never happen and it's a fantasy, I'm making the best of our situation and you suggest nonsensical impossible things.

I think I've been in a couple of threads with you. I am the Australian paleocon from yesterday.

>implying there was ever going to be an alliance between white nationalists and cultural libertarians who worship a gay race mixing Jew

Lol. Trump was the only thing that they agree on. Of course after he is elected, that alliance ends. The problem is people thinking they were ever part of a movement to begin with.

And Spencer and those retards doing salutes were morons but the media is blowing it all out of proportion anyway. I actually don't like Spender, he has a history of being a retard and is a poor face for the movement. Better to have someone either like Jared Taylor who is far more respectable or the virtual opposite someone like Weev who will call them kikes who need the rope and troll them.

Spencer is a blowhard fag

>what are the 1960s?
But it didn't happen overnight then either. In the case of Britain, you already had the fabians doing visits to the USSR and giving them free propaganda from the 1920s onwards. Not so surprising that after 40 years of shilling, it caught on to most academia and the youth.

Also
>we dont have the media but we have the internet
that is precisely the problem. The MSM is shilling those fake news/alt-right/bullshit pretty hard to discourage normies from seeking other media platforms behind the printed press and television. And you might not appreciate that, but there are still a lot of people that get their news from those sources.

You can't just ignore the scale of the opposition just because we've had our first good year in decades.

Fuck off.

>Paleoconservative.

you are the exact same cunt that was shilling on here last night and I laughed at you because paleoconservatism died before 2010 because it is so milk-toast and Richard Spencer ironically used to be big in the American paleoconservatism movement before becoming a white identitarian.

Paleoconservatism: aka. jacking off to royalty is probably gayer LARPing than neo-nazi LARPing.

I don't doubt it.

The iq and the control over their behavior is way to low in 90 percent of all arabs and in 98 percent of all even if our culture was enfroced upon them, they wouldn't be able to integrate. Civic nationalism gives us some more years at best, it is no solution.

You don't need to be a part of a "movement" to vote for something. I don't like UKIP but I'll still vote for them.

the whole idea behind the word ALTERNATIVE in alt-right is to separate ethnic nationalists from civic nationalists, which get called "cuckservatives"

there is no such thing as "union of the right", the alt right is a civil war within the right

Nigger Troll Doll.

98 percent of all blacks^^

If that's true, link the posts then, I usually make 1 or 2 posts per thread, but this is an issue that really pisses me off how it's dividing us.
Also
,>paleoconservatism
>jacking off to royalty
what the actual fuck are you talking about
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

I'm not saying you do, in fact that's exactly what I did, supported the movement without being part of it, and that is why I don't want it to turn into stormfag LARPing shit that will never be taken seriously again.

the Left didn't win by moderating themselves into normieness

The USSR went directly from far right to far left

Weimar went from degenerate to national socialist in a few years

and while the lefties may have been pushing for leftist stuff during the 20s, little happened until 1960

Paleoconservatism is protectionist isolationist traditionalist conservatism, you dirty statist cuck. It isn't necessarily monarchist, especially in US politics obviously. And not necessarily in Australian politics either. But monarchism is pretty normie-tier here. But there is nothing LARPish about it. We were all in the same thread together yesterday, I was there too.

>civic nationalists, which get called "cuckservatives"
I thought cuckservatives were globalist neocons because they willingly allow themselves to be taken advantage of and exploited?

Are you telling me that almost the entirety of the Right didn't unite behind Trump and Brexit? Fuck off.

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>I first met Richard Spencer at an event in October 2009. At the time he was executive editor at Taki's Magazine, a website hosting prominent authors somewhat to the right of the American paleoconservative movement.

Doesn't that happen for every major vote? Do you think you're saying anything insightful?

Don't associate that fag apologizer with my ideology, he said that faggotry is a part of European culture, which is absolutely bullshit.

This idiot thinks the right is at war with itself, but it's never been more united, this dumb neo-nazi Spencer is destroying it and its public image from the inside.

But what practical difference does it make if you "support the movement"'as long as everyone votes for the same thing.

>don't want it to turn into stormfag LARPing shit

Fair enough. But don't you think you are overreacting? Oh someone said hail victory guess he wants to gas 6 gorrillion and goose step in an SS uniform. If you read Spencer's shit, he's not a stormfag.

you are thinking of jews desu

cuckservative was first direct at the "democrats are the real racists" republicans of NRO, that believed that blacks would magically become whites if ONLY they learned about the virtues of the free market, and that the gimmedat hispanic underclass would magically love conservativism if the borders were opened wide

amren.com/news/2015/07/what-is-a-cuckservative/

from july 2015 when it started to trend

>his function was to prove that you can still win by paying attention to the white working class, and open the door for future radicals

And that's why you take a step one after the another and don't go full 1488 in front of 50 cameras, that's the problem with stormfags and other clones, your autism is too strong to make politics in reality.
Legit nationalists movement are rising everywhere in the West, they finally managed to free themselves from the WW2 heritage and adopt a fresh image but you have alway this tiny group like Spencer and his supporters who come on a stage and bring back the poisoned nazi iconography like the drooling retards they are, undoing what has been built during months in a moment.

Just look, Trump isn't even in office and you force him to publicly disavow you, how stupid can you be to not see the reality ? Go back in your cave and keep yourself to internet, we will do fine without you.

associating trump with nazis and hitler worked so well for the media, didn't it?

It gathers more attention and thus more support.
I don't care if he's a stormfag, but he's doing exactly what I said he's doing, making us look like a bunch of neo-nazis in the eyes of the core voters, we do NOT want that.

> almost the entirety of the Right unite behind Trump and Brexit

You wut m8

Cameron literally resigned because he got so triggered by Brexit, Merkel condemned it strongly, Sarkozy growled

you're wasting your breath. there is no alt-right "movement"
it's a bunch of people who spent way too much time reading, writing online, arguing online.

what americans want is the next hitler, but for themselves.

It doesn't matter what the truth is about the guy. It is only what normies perceive it as. And the heil is enough for them to be completely freaked out by us. I don't think the guy is that insane, from what I understand about him. But he is a total sperg for showing his power level to normalfags.

The majority of the conservative party voted leave, Cameron was part of the establishment that didn't want it, which is why I said ALMOST the entirety and not THE entirety. Merkel is Merkel, and should probably be considered leftist.

Cuckservative is "please don't call me racist". Trump isn't a white nationalist, but he also isn't a cuckservative which is why he was supported on Sup Forums so much.

Fuck your shill poll.
Sage

Whats the point of this? Sup Forums is infested with lib shills who will vote to support him