So Sup Forums: do white men have a future?

So Sup Forums: do white men have a future?

Is Trump a sign of the resurgence of white men? Or is he just the last hurrah before demographics inevitably render white men powerless and eventually, inevitably, extinct?

What can Trump even do to reverse the decline of white men?

Literally all we would have to do is stop letting in foreigners and get rid of generation spanning ponzi schemes.

Population is self-regulating. Just check what happened during times after a crisis that killed off a large chunk of the population, like the black plague for example.
That is pretty much the same what would happen if our population density declined naturally, just sped up.

The only reason people obsess over the population going down by a couple of percent is because a lot of our systems are build upon being wasteful and then just letting the next generation deal with the fallout. That obviously doesn't work when the next generation is too small to shoulder than burden.

White people build and run the world. Have been for over 3,000 years. The best colored people do is run things we built with very mediocre performance. Once it breaks down they never fix it.

Ex: Africa, Detroit, Chicago, anywhere with coloreds.

>Literally all we would have to do is stop letting in foreigners
yeah, but there are already more than enough foreigners in our countries to outbreed us by the end of the century.

>Population is self-regulating. Just check what happened during times after a crisis that killed off a large chunk of the population, like the black plague for example.
Firstly, it took centuries for the European population to recover after the black death. Secondly, this was in a time before contraceptives.

the fact that getting rid of white people leads to a collapse in the living standards of the remaining non-whites hasn't stopped them so far.

they really do hate us that much

Such a cuck statement to make, is leftism a mental illness?

>yeah, but there are already more than enough foreigners in our countries to outbreed us by the end of the century.

that problem would solve itself when you get rid of all the programs depending on constant population growth, which would also include gibs. there have been polls in the Netherlands for example (at least I think it was NL, maybe it was Austria) showing that a lot of them do not enjoy living in these countries when they disregard the financial benefits. they don't like our culture, they don't like our climate, they like nothing else than the money. When the money stop flowing, there is nothing stopping them from going back.
And the ones that remain will still not be able to support shitting out ten children anymore.

Also I was not just referring to the population growth after the black plague but also to the massive increase in quality of life.
Having a lower population is not necessarily a bad thing (ignoring our flawed systems depending on the retarded idea of endless growth), you just need to have enough to fend off potential enemies. Which would be pretty easy with technological superiority.

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k fatass.

Cut all welfare and watch your degenerates burn as they are gunned down because they must steal to survive because they cannot survive on their own without the help of white people being forced to do it through a socialist government.

Michael Moore is just a self-hating white, like many on the left.

Put penis in vagina. It's not that difficult.

Also, stop feeding the animals.

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The problem of African population growth will "solve" itself eventually. Because it is completely caused by us - whenever natural population control mechanisms kick in to bring them back to a size they could actually maintain without external help we step in and prevent it.

The moment we either decide to stop doing that or become incapable of doing so because there are just too many of them compared to us it will turn really fucking ugly. And the only ones to blame for the death toll that will make even the world wars look tame will be the bleeding heart liberals.

I can smell the upcoming shitskin genocide, it will kick off truly when the living standards of fucking whyte mayles will drop considerably which is not far off.

Trump would need a foolproof migration strategy to accomplish this desu. Cut off all third world migration and make it somehow possible to encourage Euro migration without coming off as a Nazi. Don't know how it can be done tho

Self-regulating population led to the fall of all the great Empires. Look at the joke country populated by Western Turks that calls itself Greece today

no one checked my numbers(

That "College educated whites" can't be fucking real. Leftards won't shut up about how the majority of college grads are democrats.

Also, didn't 53% of women vote Trump?

fucking kek

Michal moore is an ugly, deformed beeing. He's so ugly nobody is, on a biological level, able to ever love him.
He only gets accpeted and a little bit of attention if he degrades himself to the little whore he es.
Nobody would even speak to him but instead pepper spray him right into the pussy for even trying to anticipate in the human society.
He's a fetish object.

The irony that fiat currency and population growth have the characteristics.

It's real, broken down by state rather than overall %

> Also, didn't 53% of women vote Trump?
White women. All non-white women voted over 70% Hillary. 95% of black women.

I think you misunderstood what I meant to this.
My comment was more about that an isolated population with limited space will neither remain perfectly stable no constantly grow, you will always have times of high population density where living space is rare and thus expensive, making it harder to raise lot of children, and times of lower population density where you have more resources left to invest into offspring.

In the case of the Western world you also have fucked up anti family laws though which would need to get trashed.

There were hardly even any replies in the thread after that post, Ivan.
I do agree though - pretty much every fucking prediction about the future you read in the media or even here on Sup Forums assumes that everything will just proceed in the same way it did during the last years or decades. None of them take into account that a sinking SoL will change people's political stances on certain topics.
It's already happening all over Europe even though the SoL has not yet dropped significantly in a lot of areas.

Michael Moore needs to just fuck off and die. The Democratic Party has gone insane.

Fucking Christ, I should have really spell checked that one. What an embarrassment.

Praise be to Kek

WASTED

Digits confirm. Praise Kek.

Thanks DoubleDubsQuadsGigaSatan

>Those digits
It will be done.

I like those digits.

Dinosaurs were killed off the same way mammoths were, by hungry humans hunting in packs.

Dinosaurs, especially herbivores, represent easy prey.

NO

FUCKING NO

the answer is feminism and the sexual revolution. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK JAPAN HAS A BIRTH RATE OF 1.1 PER FEMALE BECAUSE THEY ENCOURAGE WOMEN TO PURSUE CAREERS AND THEY TEACH THEM TO BE ENTITLED SHITS WHEN IT COMES TO MEN, EXACT SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN THE REST OF THE WEST

All the countries that were occupied by the Ottomans are jokes

Because they are 127 million people living on a tiny ass island maybe?

It's not just about population decline. When the percentage of people under the age of 60 gets to below 30% (and it will), you know you're in deep shit.

I thought germans were smart

Japan's birthrate is skewed by a shitton of old af population. The average Japanese woman is 50 years old, no shit the birthrate is comparably low. Japan is still twice the size of the biggest Euro countries.

So what is your proposal? Let 200 million people live on a tiny ass island?
The real problem are pensions and shit like that, where the government wrings money from the younger generation to take care of the older one rather than just telling people to take care of themselves.

The white people on the left are really showing their true colors.

>shitton of old population

And how do you think that happened? Their birthrate was already below replacement level. The difference with Japan is that they don't try to compensate by inviting illiterate brown people from third-world countries

Tits need to be bigger

Japan's really not that tiny, it has more surface area than Germany.

>the real problems are pensions

In a perfect world, people wouldn't mind letting old people die in the streets. Did you forget how high the life expectancy is in the Western world?

Face it, feminism and sexual liberalism is unsustainable.

Germany has 357k sqkm, Japan 378k. When compared to the differences in population that is nothing.

>Face it, feminism and sexual liberalism is unsustainable.

It is, but so is "just keep shitting out more and more kids to support (((generation contracts)))".

Endless population growth is simply impossible, but that is exactly what you would need for Western systems since you always need more young people than old ones.

The only solutions to that are to find a way to kill off your old population every now and then or tell them that taking care of their retirement is their own duty and if they fuck up they get shot if they are caught stealing.
Or if you wanna go scifi ending aging so people don't have to retire.

Why no college educated people of color? That would be all red

All 2 of them?

Japan is in the top 50 territories with the highest population density, but still nothing compared to Singapore for instance. Free trade and globalism has made population density a non-issue for now

In any case, another global conflict would buy humanity even more time for the colonization of Mars, not that it needs it.

You are still avoiding my point that "just have the population grow indefinitely" does not work. You will reach the point where it cannot grow any further and then you are just back to the same problem I addressed.

I'm not avoiding it, and it does work. We're not even remotely close to the point where population "cannot grow any further", and by the time we did, Mars would be terraformed and decently populated.

we are never gonna fly into space if we are so bogged down by our population that all resources go immediately into consumption again

That can be changed by addressing the consumerism issue. And Africa's population growth will come to a grinding halt when Western countries pull out their support. How that would happen, I don't know, maybe a Great Depression 2.0, or maybe if they miraculously got their shit together

But in any case, nanotechnology can give us time as well, maybe China or India will make mandatory nanobot implants for every newborn, shortening or extending life expectancy. And again, global conflict.

As the dinosaurs were going extinct, they
became confused, fearful, angry and lashed
out, not knowing their era was over.
#angryliberals

Trump is not the basket to throw all your hopes and dreams into; he is an indicator of what people currently want and hope for. There is still a lot of work to do if people want to reverse white population decline.

> 2016
> believing in terraforming other planets

Leaf, please be reasonable. Mankind doesn't get to terraform other planets. If you believe we can actually do that before we turn this planet into a hellhole for ourselves, you are delusional.

Source: I am from the future and live on Mars.

>Secondly, this was in a time before contraceptives.
that's actually a bs argument

the main advantage of contraceptives/birth control/having fewer children is actually to avoid poverty in your lineage.

underdeveloped countries with a strong agricultural sector and few industry can't cope with high population growth. there's a limited amount of people who can live off a limited amount of land.

if enough ressources and space is available and you could have children without having to worry about the future, wouldn't you?

the estonian peoples party in 2013 iirc put a point into their program granting citizens a loan for their natural children to build homes.

>Lebensraum im Osten

Libs just manufacture false analogies now.

>If you believe we can actually X, you are delusional

hmm i feel like we've heard that before

the terraformation thing might be a meme, but the colony probably would have been started by 2016 if you hadn't lost an important war a few moments ago

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Yes, there are lots of things that we achieved. But going to another planet and terraforming it takes so much energy, resources and time that it would be much easier to repair the shit we have done to this planet.

> lost the war
Implying ww2 was not a massive boost for science and technology.

>it would be much easier to repair the shit we have done to this planet.

yes, but you said this in your previous post:

>before we turn this planet into a hellhole

>Implying ww2 was not a massive boost for science and technology.

but you still lost the actual war and failed to prevent cultural marxism, degeneracy and numales from taking over the Western world

Basically, if we don't repress women and minorities now, they will bring us down through democracy. It's up to us at this point..

>they really do hate us that much

Will they miss us when we're gone?
Who gives a fuck, not like I'm gonna spawn any future slaves :P

No they only know that they people THEY know are democrats. Me and literally everyone in my family of 6 are college educated and republicans. I just don't have "gender studies" friends.