As large swaths of the population lose their jobs, the only viable solution might be for the government to institute a universal basic income, which would mean paying every resident a fixed amount of money to cover their needs.
There's a lot that's still unclear about universal basic income, but here is what's known so far.
Why universal basic income may be necessary
A 2013 study by Oxford University's Carl Frey and Michael Osborne estimates that 47 percent of U.S. jobs will potentially be replaced by robots and automated technology in the next 10 to 20 years. Those individuals working in transportation, logistics, office management and production are likely to be the first to lose their jobs to robots, according to the report.
In less developed countries, the potential for job loss is more severe. A 2016 analysis from the World Bank estimated that roughly two-thirds of all jobs in developing nations around the globe are susceptible to replacement by automation.
As the global workforce modernizes and low-skilled workers lose their jobs, momentum builds around the idea of a universal basic income, or a fixed, regular payment that all residents, no matter their employment status or wealth, would receive from the government.
"THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE WE END UP WITH A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DUE TO AUTOMATION." -Elon Musk, Founder and CEO of SolarCity, Tesla, and SpaceX
I'm gonna guess (((they))) would rather kill a metric shit ton of us first, if it actually came down to it. I mean, that's what I'd do too.
William Cooper
>yay $4000 a month job replaced with $500 basic income
Jacob Rodriguez
The Day of the NEET is dawning.
Jonathan Thomas
>DUE TO AUTOMATION
yes but if done before automation it would fuck things up
also automation on a certain scale would mean one day we just have to throw out everything we know about economics. why should i barely be able to get by on glorified welfare when we could just have robots making robots and have everyone get things on demand for free?
also this needs to be coupled with mass sterilization. and before you say anything id be among the first to sign up. i am already not having any children due to my impure genetics
James Walker
basic income also leads to basic inflation desu
Adam Bennett
>Government pays people wages for doing nothing >Almost everyone's unemployed >End up taxing wages we send to the people doing nothing to pay for more wages >Essentially giant ponzi scheme >Everyone dies
Owen Barnes
>Robots will take your jobs
Yes.
>government will have to pay your wage
Nope.
Chase Allen
>Why universal basic income may be necessary
Muh venus project.
And now you've incentivized government thinning out the herd. How long will you keep democracy in a system where the majority doesn't produce shit and doesn't earn enough to drive a consumer economy ?
Life will be pretty cheap under Communism 2.0.
Liam Watson
That is what Marx predicted.
Asher Roberts
With all this Kek and timetraveling going on im going to share a personal story.
Earlier this year i had a fucked up experience.
It all started when i met this girl whom i had the most intense personal chemistry with. One week later i did some shrooms and watched star wars for the first time. All of the films. During the trip i had this big revelation of my life-long ignorance. I felt really shitty at first but managed to turn it all around. Thats when i realized that i and that girl was meant to be.
We had only spent three days together when i went to her place and bam, we was a couple.
When i later got back home to my place i had revelations the whole night. I was so energized. I heard birds chirping inside my head. I heard knockings in my room. I felt this tingeling spot in the middle of my forehead. I felt this stream of energy on the top of my head. It made the lights in the ceiling buzz.
During all this i sensed the future where a combination of nazism and communism would be the optimal ruling ideology. I saw that automation would make money almost obsolete eventually.
I even felt something about going to England which i did. I ignored school just to go to London just because of my intuition or rather, wild fantasy.
I thought i was fucking crazy but i didnt really care about it because i knew it was probably my own fantasy.
Howover now i see more and more stuff that correlates with my experiences and revelations that makes me paranoid sometimes.
Im aware of how fucked up this is. When i realized i went into the biggest depression of my life.
Ive recently got most of my shit back together and is forever a changed person.
Evan Parker
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Hunter Evans
I'm sure all the Muslims breeding more and exploding population will ruin this.
Sebastian Bell
Unemployment figures don't mean shit, it's the dependency ratio people should worry about. There are simply fewer people making a living wave.
Adrian Gomez
hitler would support basic income if he were alive today
Leo Myers
>Basic income >Not the Salary for life (Le Salaire à Vie) of Bernard Friot
Jonathan Stewart
I'd be all for this, but what about the rat experiment? Many people can't do the neet life because they're scared of being meaningless or simply because they're too boring to have a hobby.
Isaac Bell
Yeah, this is going to be shit. Thankfully my career will be fine for a few more decades.
Chase Nguyen
Who else here /sabbotagge/?
Gavin Russell
>Can't tax teh Robot >Vat eats up your $500 >Robots "OMG hacked" conveniently kill mlllions
Nolan Diaz
>le basic income maymay >let's pay people for nothing >people will clearly still work knowing that they don't need to
Jacob Roberts
>Elon Musk
He is an intelligent man, but half of what he says is either completely misinformed, theoretical or just flat out bull shit.
Jeremiah Thomas
>Robots have conscience >Robots know or even care about the value of money >Implying robots will not just ask to be emancipated >Implying it will be "White people Vs. Robots" all over again
Connor Brown
So Wall-e was right then?
Blake Sullivan
The potential of the basic income is more about: >Not having to fear to be homeless anymore >Have all the time to learn stuff and actually produce things with passion >tfw would learn about game design and programming and make indie video games
Aaron Price
>guy whose whole business has been abusing government loans while none of his business make a profit wants to claim everyone else should do the same.
Blake Clark
>tfw in 30 years everyone who want to not be stuck in a welfare-tier salary will have to get a degree in robotics
Isaiah Wood
this. or be a prostitute.
Oliver Smith
I believe him, Elon knows a shitload about welfare from the government. So goddamned tired of people treating this hack like he's the savior of humanity. he built a shitty, expensive electric car and some rockets that don't seem very reliable. Why does everyone slob on his knob?
Adrian Bell
>make indie video games >tfw everyone will pirate them and you won't get shit
Lincoln White
>implying sex robots won't eliminate the need for women
Jaxson Carter
Not matter, I still win money anyway.
Leo Cruz
I always wonder what about the world or the nature of mankind makes people think UBI will ever be an even remote possibility.
Thomas Perry
You can't live in welfare money
Brayden Thomas
This, the people who own the robots would just have the useless culled. The checks won't ever be coming.
Nicholas Miller
Yeah we'll probably all be left to die(except the ones who make the robots) and robots will replace the human race
Thomas Taylor
Everybody sitting around with too much time. It's asking for disaster.
James Thompson
that's why world war 3 is going to happen oh but conveniently every billionaire is taking a vacation to mars whoops
Isaiah Phillips
Things will cost way less to produce as well . So 500 in the future will be "more" than 500 $ today
Luke Price
>we'll probably all be left to di No worries comrade we'll just start a revolution. Means of production [robots] should belong to the non-workers!
Joseph Garcia
Kind of like how the government funds his business ideas
Nathaniel Ortiz
Why instead of basic income, don't just let them starve?
Parasites should not be sustained
Nicholas Wood
Kek. There was a sci-fi movie where android tries to destroy martian sino-american base and crew claiming it's an escape way allowing rulers to start ww3 and he must save mankind. Everyone hostile to each other at first join forces and defeat him heroically only to be ordered to meet ship with all rich fucks and learn that Earth is no more.
Nicholas Jones
>robots require little to no reaources >stronger, smarter, and more capable in every way
>will still claim white human privilege exists
Blake Morris
>sex robots
Aiden Roberts
Universal basic income must be a decentralized system based on something like bitcoin. No organization can have complete control over the livelihood of all citizens.
Colton Hall
>paying people to do nothing
Might as well just give everyone government jobs.
Carson Cox
Why would you make a robot with a software like that?
Jordan Morales
Forget to put "implying" to the first two arrow green.
Jacob Powell
Did Marx predict a decentralized system that is not controlled by an organization?
Joshua Taylor
Do you believe that
>srsly
Parker Hughes
You people don't know a single thing about economics.
I wish robots did take my job, loads of factory jobs can be easily replaced by robots, no need for humans to stand for 12 hours a day doing stupid tasks like put bread on a conveyer belt. It's not a life, universal income will free all people in those shitty production jobs
Isaac Bell
>my utopia! It's my utopia not yours!
Bentley Campbell
UBI only works with a secure border and no trade/free movement unions.
Evan Kelly
You just said absolutely nothing of interest or in anyway related to this thread. Maybe you should stop doing drugs.
Asher Brown
4000$/month jobs will not be replaced retard.
minimum wage jobs will be
Levi Rivera
But that's the point. What use do TPTB have for you at that point? You would literally be a parasite upon their property.
Samuel Wilson
I keep telling everyone, technological singularity happened in 2016. Brace your selves, shit's getting real exponential real soon.
Lincoln Martin
What happens when you have a robot that does things for you senpai. Do you get more productive or less productive?
Nathaniel Bennett
Is that the same Elon Musk who's 99.99% convinced he's living in a simulation?
Jeremiah Price
Socialism is okay with robots because now you dont need anyone to do any manual labor, there should still be some hierarchy though where people who still get jobs would get more stuff and maybe have their votes count more to incentive people from doing nothing
Aaron Reed
Musk does not realize our economy is engineered failure. While at face value sounds evil but a lot of us probably work useless jobs. Bet he gets aced this year once spacex has a tech break-through.
For the first time, I am glad I went to law school.
Ryan Powell
Your accountant or lawyer will be easier to replace than the janitor that cleans toilets.
It's not jobs that are automated, it's task. Automation raises productivity, allowing to produce the same output with fewer people. Because demand only stretches so far, that means fewer and fewer jobs. Fewer jobs consolidated by bigger companies that can compete for smaller profit margins.
Carter Barnes
Looks like NEETs win again wagecucks
John Brooks
You can't put a price on freedom.
Bentley Rodriguez
this is great news
John Hill
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Hunter Myers
>Mfw I live in Sweden so I got free education >Mfw I work developing industrial robots with tons of experience maintaining them >Mfw Neets honestly believe they will get free gibs-me-dats after we enter a corp-centric future >Mfw at best you will be literal slaves
Get rekt plebs. And spoiler alert: You won't be fed, at best you'll be imprisoned as all the useful people throw you in the trash where you belong.
Juan Williams
How would it work then ? If the prices don t go down people will not even be able to live ...
Elijah Adams
That's entirely within the realm of possibility.
Jose Mitchell
He's at the controls
Eli Brown
Brazil 2.0
John Lewis
but everyone doesnt die in this timeline we all stay alive forever on basic income hating life
Ethan Taylor
You think the liberals will shut off neetbux where you live in cuckistan?
You dont know the political swing of people with nothing to do on their hands
Swede cuck
Ryder Wood
> "predicted"
This was planned since the beginning.
Samuel Sullivan
So whats going to stop the government from just drafting everyone into one giant army now that 80% of people are useless and are stuck doing nothing?
Noah Jenkins
>Hahahha you live in cuckistan, see how well I parrot meme's! There's no way people could just start dying when rapid automation comes! >What do you mean look at china/japan/india?... No but the corporations here care more and will give me free shit even when they know for sure I'm not worth it!
Oh boy, I know you aren't a real neet but man can you imagine how sad it is that some people actually believe other people will just take care of them for zero return even when they know the people with all the capital won't protect you?
Its both hilarious and sad. That humanity came so far but that 90% of people are inherently useless due to lack of ambition and intelligence.
Jack Perez
And what are they gonna do? Follow the army robots around all day?
Lincoln Ortiz
>he doesn't know about economy
Caleb Murphy
They are coming
Joseph Bell
Yeah and 90% of your women have been blacked already
Stay jelly widdle wagie
Robert Jackson
You clearly know nothing.
Parker Ward
Automation leads to price drops.
Jaxon Bell
>Hey guys you see the economy works better when most people are just bottom-feeding it! >Why would rich people cut us off when robots are cheaper? I mean surely they will want to hemorrhage money!
I had an fling with an Austrian exchange student once, if it wasn't for that your post would have convinced me that you are in fact retarded.
>Hahah Swedecuck! Just because you are 90% white and we are now a minority in america doesn't mean shit hahahaha le mememaster strikes again! >Psssh no I haven't looked at dating/porn statistics? What do you mean your women hate blacks more than not only americans, but even more than both Finland, Norway and Denmark? >So what if america is the biggest consumer of cuck-porn in the world! You are still a cuck because I saw some news on this satire newsite that said you where cucks hahahahah you can't bespoozle the mememaster. >A real counterargument? Nah you see I out-memed you
Okay kid. Point proven. Sorry for rustling your jimmies.
Oliver Scott
If this happens at any point in my lifetime I'm just going to drop my job immediately.
Ayden Carter
You must have a shit job.
Lincoln Sanchez
>le neo-luddites meme
I thought you lot got your arms stuck in those new fangled automated looms or something.
Ryder Jackson
Time to go to school for robotic repair and maintenance
Kayden Hall
So basically the ultra elite like Elon Musk and the bankers and the CEOs and the billionaires will rule over us. We're just going to be mindless consumers buying the products of the robots from the crumbs that the elite hand over to us and the robots will continue to get more powerful thanks to AI and will rule over us along with the elite.
Ted Kaczynski was right.
Nathan Fisher
>Sven being this butt blasted his sister just came home with Ahmed and shes wearing a burka so he has to go to 4chinz to argue and write short stories with jobless leeches of the system to feel better about himself
10/10 Sven
Jeremiah Reed
>Thinking automation is a meme
>Thinking that everyone will just become engineers or programmers or Ph.D chemists
Fucking retard faggot.
Your job will one day be automated too if AI gets more powerful
Noah Bailey
SHHH GOYIM YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT
Jackson Nelson
This,
He was a NEET as well, but using his well founded NEET powers he created an empire
Dylan Young
Automation is real, but like every other technological development since the end of the ice age, it will allow more people to do more for cheaper. Where are the lamp lighter jobs?
Juan Jones
Thing is where is the government going to get the money to pay basic income? I'm sure the robots won't pay income tax.
