Help me understand the left, Sup Forums the more I try to wrap my head around it, the less sense it makes. The things they push for are wholly incompatible!
Of course, surely people will spread around the globe more and more thanks to modern transport, globalisation is pretty much an inevitability, whether we like it or not. However, it's startling how governments don't let it happen naturally, but force it upon us. It's all too fast and leads to something of a culture shock and identity crises for both the immigrants and the natives.
The solution would be to just discard cultural identity altogether, right? Difficult though that is, just treat people as individuals. But instead, the west in particular has doubled down on identity politics. If, in a few generations, we were all to race-mix and become racially indistinct, why is identity politics so rife? Why is anyone pissed about cultural appropriation etc. if by the time of our great-grandchildren, identifying with any particular race or culture ought to be meaningless?
Certainly throwing all these races together has been a concerted effort by the elites, but is identity politics less of a policy than just a natural response from the people, and the politicians spout all this shit because it's what the people want to hear? Is identity politics in fact a resistance to globalisation and no one realises?
Justin Rodriguez
I get why you wouldn't understand this. My suggestion is to read some history books. Specifically the parts that talk about colonization and neocolonialism.
Oliver Sullivan
Also, when people become SJWs, they of course take on the responsibility of speaking for the sake of others rather than themselves. The elites have gambled on the whites not identifying as white, or anything for that matter, and to an extent that has worked, at least in the left who decide to speak for others instead of themselves. Of course it's just virtue signalling.
But studies have also shown that the more other races encroach in their spaces, the more whites will start to actually identify as white. The tribalism is inevitable, and forcing us all together will only make it worse.
How can we ever expect to be "stronger together"?
Austin Kelly
>guilt of the father stays with the son
Dumb retard. You also forget that most of European nations were not involved in colonialism not imperialism.
Samuel Ramirez
And where in my post did I say they were?
Grayson James
Colonialism is to an extent of accepting the role of a villain, though, isn't it? We white folk go over there, take over, show them how things are done, exploit their naivety and put them to work for our benefit. We do this whether they like it or not, and they just have to deal with it.
But now, globalisation is happening whether we like it or not too, but it's all under the pretense of it being our choice and we all be friendly neighbours and work together for a supposed greater good. It's similar but not quite the same. It's surreptitious, less honest.
If the result of globalisation is increased racial tension, how can any progress be made? What's the end goal?
Jackson Hill
Don't forget multiculturaism it's ok, but we don't want white culture. I can't understand why they're too afraid of white people and culture.
Nolan Rogers
white culture in america has turned into trash though, i'd be happy to get rid of it in favor of some other nation's culture any day
seriously, commercial sports, rap music, and fast food isn't a great culture...
and yet you talk to white men on here, and the pride of their states is the fast food places and college football teams (and guns of course, but every state says that)
Jacob Long
You can't understand the left. Most of them are leftists because they are either inconsistent or just useful idiots. They don't realize that embracing both diversity and identity while also embracing globalism and multiculturalism doesn't make sense.
Daniel Allen
>rap music >white culture
Logan Clark
dude, rap music tops the charts every week, a ton of whites listen to it and love it
Andrew Hughes
Few of them produce it themselves, though. They're just an audience.
Brayden Clark
right, but due to the popularity, you can't exclude it from the culture
rap is the most popular music type in america
Carson Moore
>Colonialism is to an extent of accepting the role of a villain, though, isn't it? We white folk go over there, take over, show them how things are done, exploit their naivety and put them to work for our benefit. We do this whether they like it or not, and they just have to deal with it.
But that is complete bullshit, go to youtube and look up Freidmans take on colonialism.
I will give you an example: >APARTHEID South Africa (emphasis intended) >1960: 2 million whites, 6 million blacks >1990: 5 million whites, 40 million blacks >More Black doctors than the rest of Africa combined >Same with Lawyers, Accountants and Engineers >Highest black life expectancy in Africa >Lowest black infant mortality rate >Second highest black literacy >Second highest black wages >the list goes on and on
Colonialism propelled people from the Iron Age into the fucking space age in less than 300 years, it pulled millions from poverty etc etc etc
To say Colonialism is bad is stupidity, it was both bad and good. One a balance, more good than bad.
James Richardson
you are a very smart man, and should immigrate to America
we like smart immigrants, and people who would vote for republicans
Robert Mitchell
I didn't mean to imply it's necessarily bad for the natives that get colonialised, especially African countries, they clearly prosper from it. But to position yourself as a leader like that will always make the natives harbour resentment. Just look at Mugabe kicking out all the white farmers. He didn't appreciate what they brought to his country, and pretty quickly they all started to starve.
Aaron Rivera
Feminists are anti-men, incompatible with most immigrant cultures. Muslims are anti-women, anti-Christian, anti-gay-trans-everything, incompatible with everyone. Mexicans are super Christian and anti-gay-trans, incompatible with Muslims. Everyone is anti-black. Blacks are also very Christian and anti-gay-trans, anti-white, perpetual victims. Gay-trans cry loud but they cannot defend themselves.
Basically, all of the cultures we are supposed to accept and live in harmony with are incompatible with each other. So we may as well sit back and smile as they begin fighting each other.
Oliver Murphy
actually it seems that blacks and mexicans should be natural republicans
Logan Morris
If the democrats didn't always appeal to their already strong sense of identity, maybe.
Ethan Scott
A friendly reminder that globalism and globalization are two very different things.
Globalism is socialistic by nature. It is political and coercive. Globalization is capitalistic by nature. It is private and voluntary.
Michael Scott
How come the chink is whiter than than the blonde?
Jacob Lee
But dont forget that globalization is a relatively new concept, from end of the USSR to today. Nothing like this has ever been tried before sucessfully.
Like before if you want to migrate people to another country you would literally have to invade that country and kill everybody that complains.
So is not like the (((elites))) know what they are doing, all they know is they want to keep making money and fucking white people over while doing it.
Identity politics worked for a while but it was never a truly tested strategy.
Luke Morales
Ah crap, thanks for the correction.
Yes I meant globalism in my posts, although I'm sure globalisation contributes to it.
Camden Martin
yes exactly
but when someone simply says the words "deport" and "jail" political leanings no longer seem to matter
Jack Price
>divide and conquer
Plain and simple. When a population isn't united, they are less likely to riot and confront authority (the 1%)
Ryder Walker
All the different buzzwords mean different things
There is a movement to destroy national identity to move humans towards one world government.
There is a movement of trade between countries.
There is a movement of avoiding labor rules by using third world laborers (illegal mexicans or indians in some factory)
There is a movement to exploit less regulation in say China for cheaper factory costs.
There is a movement to exchange food, culture, and learn about history etc.
etc etc
Basically the Left and all political opportunists will bundle these together.
So the LEFT bundles labor exploitation, regulation exploitation, with say liking chinese/indian food to get their dumbfuck people on board.
Basically politics is always about BUNDLING to get an advantage. For instance, the right in America bundled neocon war mongering with Christianity.
Any buzzword like globalism, internatoinalism, is supposed to be vague so they can get morons plebes to like it even when it's against their interests.
So leftists can fight for higher minimum wage while also fighting for illegal workers that are paid $5 an hour with no legal rights.