An American cannot be a white nationalist

A white nationalist in Sweden wants to protect his ancient Nordic cultures, lands, and traditions that his people have participated in dating back through thousands of years of recorded history.

A Jewish nationalist in Israel wants to protect his ancient holy land and culture than his people have been fighting over for thousands of years.

A black nationalist in Ghana wants to continue the culture and identity of his ancient tribe dating back to the very origin of humanity

A white nationalist in the United States of America wants to protect a nonexistent culture and a land that his outcasted European ancestors stole from indigenous people just a few hundred years ago.

You cannot be a white nationalist in the USA because the USA was never a white nation. This is a not a Nordic, Scandinavian, Germanic, Anglo, or white land. This is an American land. The only people who can be racial nationalists in America are Native Americans.

Being a white nationalist in the United States of America is the equivalent of being a black nationalist in Germany. I have no problem with nationalism or racial nationalism, but if you're a white nationalist you don't belong here. You have to go back.

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>this is what Americans actually believe

>the USA was never a white nation
Yes it was. Just because we had Indians outside of our borders doesn't mean we weren't white.

>if you're a white nationalist you don't belong here. You have to go back.
What happens when there's nothing to go back to?

A white nationalist wants to live among whites.

You know this country historicially has been 80 percent plus white, right?
Moron.

Go back now and make sure there is something left. Like I said I don't have a problem with white nationalism, it makes sense why a European would want to protect his multiple thousand year old exclusively white culture. Americans don't have that though.

Go move to Norway and join up with Varg. The white nationalist movement simply has no place in America.

The founding fathers were proto white nationalists you unpatriotic moron.

>White
>nationalism
retarded term to begin with. Withes aren't a nation, Swedes are a nation/ethnic group same with Germans, dutchs, anglos, Berber, Assyrians, Kurds and Chinks etc. White is just a skintone that is shared by a bunch of ethnic groups.
Americans are just mongrels with identity problem

Trudeau why are you using proxy addresses?

>thousand year old white culture hurr durr
Europeans don't have this either, dimwir. You think the early savages of Britain could be called "Englishman?"
Even if they could, your argument is nonsense. As a culture the US is much more homogeneous in origin than most Euroshit countries. Pretty much founded by white, English speaking protestants. We're not sacrificing our culture just because an illiterate pagan larper doesn't believe in it.

Wrong, only an American or a white person from an non-Ethnic state are white nationalists.

Sweden is an ethnic state thus the Swede would be a Swedish nationalist

sucks cause true. same with leafs and aussies unfortunately.

White Americans are a nation. Especially conservative ones.

Since the very earliest founding of the country, even earlier than the founding of the country, a significant portion of America's population has been non-white. That isn't the case with any Scandi, Germanic, or Anglo nation ever.
And Germany has historically been 100% white
>Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity and happiness of all people
John Adams
White = anglo/germanic/scandi, umbrella term which covers Swede. Does not cover American
Modern England's history dates back over 1,000 years

>youtube.com/watch?v=oyrPzy6y_IA
>the red man will never push the devil whites across the atlantic and back into europe

>White Americans are a nation
How? Your a descendant of several different european nations, Far from a majority of you have intermixed betwen each others enough to say all white americans have a shared ancestry, What is so called white american culture btw? the regional culture is different betwen white americans. It makes more sense being a neo-confederate/southern nationalist or an appalachean nationalist then a "white nationalist"

Also, Americans who are White Nationalist are by default anti-American or post-Americans.

It's hard to explain but there's a common story with them that I share.

Ours dates back nearly 500. We're going to stop for some fag on 4chinz?

Why post when you don't even know the basics abour our country?

Colored folk were not considered people, dumbass. Just look at the requirements to become a citizen in the colonial days.

What basics?
how large perchentage of americans are actually descendants of anglos that lived in america during the revolution?

Are you a fucking Jew? Are you literally trying to deconstruct White Americans as a concept?

before Anglo protestants - no America

after Anglo protestants - America

see what I did there?

Also, try telling african americans that they "cannot be black nationalists" and see what reaction you get.

I'm just an American nationalist, you faggot.

You mean cuckservative.

I'm all for ethnic nationalism, but white nationalism is tetarded and it's spilling over too europe. I as a scandinavian have almost nothing in common with dirty slavs for example

no, ours dates back 240 years. and more importantly, the native English were always white. Native Americans were never white.
you're backtracking, but that aside many of the founding fathers actively supported the abolition of slavery even before creating the country. they clearly thought of non-whites as somewhat human
>anglo protestants created a continent out of the ocean
giving the already populated land a different name isnt the equivalent of creating it

t. Soloman "Shlomo" Shekelstein

I agree, it's dumb if you already have an ethnic state. You should have your own unique Swedish nationalism that isn't dumb civic nationalism that allows you to become a minority.

But I have. They react with similar cognitive dissonance. The only extra incentive towards and argument that American black nationalists have over American white nationalists is that blacks were forced here, while whites came here by choice. Still though I don't agree with that, Americans cannot be black nationalists either. The difference is that there are way fewer black nationalists than white nationalists in this country

I don't give a fuck who was on this continent first. Might is right, and whites deserve the soil if they have the gall to take it.

This is the story of ethno-migration since the beginning of bipeds.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnogenesis

Exactly. A nation is a people.

>Sup Forums suddenly no longer cares genetics, heritage, or ethnicity when it goes against their narrative
amazing how quickly you'll turn full 180 on your own beliefs. you just linked me to a wikipedia article detailing how France included all people living the country as equal Frenchmen regardless of race or ethnicity. thats the very antithesis of Sup Forums's mindset

>you're backtracking
How?

>but that aside many of the founding fathers actively supported the abolition of slavery

And the return of blacks to Africa. They never intended for blacks to be considered equals to whites or be considered citizens.

>Still though I don't agree with that

See, that's the thing, what you agree with doesn't matter at all. Whatever arbitrary guidelines you use to define which nationalist movements are legitimate doesn't matter at all. What matters is that American whites and American blacks feel enough a sense of connection with each other to from nationalist movements. That is all the legitimacy that is required. Of course, this is no to say that the foundation of America being rested in white nationalism doesn't carry weight to American white nationalism even more.

*with themselves

>A black nationalist in Ghana wants to continue the culture and identity of his ancient tribe dating back to the very origin of humanity


You know, part of what makes an antique valuable, is how it gradually outlived its purpose.

Idk about that article but that French stuff you're referring to is civic nationalism and is artificial, top down mandated, and structural unsound.

A nation is a people who share a religion, race, language, overall story.

>my arbitrary guidelines are more legitimate than your arbitrary guidelines
no, there are no personal guidelines here. America is objectively not a white nation. you cannot be a white nationalist in a nation that isn't white

>nonexistent culture

Yet blacks in US somehow have a "culture" when they have just been slaves who copied American whites.

American whites who came there way before them.

An American can be a white nativist as he built up the system and the institution of the USA itself and it wouldn't exist with it.

For the majority of the US history, it was ruled by white nationalism in everything but name, since there was never a reason to have a name for it. But you say it is unamerican? Everything that happened after the 1960s seems more unamerican.

You're tracing Europe back thousands of years, but assuming our cultural inheritance begins with the creation of a state. Simply stupid

Not to mention that genetically, the "English" were quite different.

>America is objectively not a white nation
It was founded by whites for whites and is therefore a white nation. That's not an arbitrary guideline that's a simple definition. You are trying very, very hard to get people to embrace the wonders of brazillian multiculturalism aren't you?

>you cannot be a white nationalist in a nation that isn't white

White Nationalism is anti-American and post-American, current America that is.

There is such thing as American culture though and it was developed by a mix of American whites, mostly Anglo-Saxson, Germanic, Italian and Irish

McFuckin kill yourself tyrone

A few decades ago America was over 85% white and it was mostly built by whites.

That˙s like saying Hungary is not a Hungarian country just because they have a few % Gypsies in it.

Agreed

>Objectively

Meaning you're using mental gymnastics to justify a stupid statement. Its still stupid. We were overwhelmingly white until immigration from Europe slowed and 3rd world immigration began in the 60's. We're talking 90%, closer to 100% before the industrial revolution.

Can't I just be a nationalist?
What does it matter if I'm black, white, brown or yellow?

t. Hasan Mudjahedinovič

Austria is not a germanic land just because my family migrated here in the 90˙s.

>Israel and HIS holy land
>I have no problem black nationalism in Germany
>but WHITE nationalism
Fuck off kike

Because we don't want our children to be black or yellow. We don't want our grandchildren to look so different from us either. Multi-ethnic societies suck for everyone involved.

You used to have 25 million blacks, a few million mexicans and a few million Asians.

All together you had less than 40 million nonwhites. Most of the nonwhites older than 40 migrated there and were not born as US citizens.

This is an entertaining thread.

>your culture is nonexistent
>you cant be a nationalist
>yu uh
>nu uh

Seriously though OP, why can't an American be an American nationalist, just because he isn't a ("native" american/indian?

That's like saying that Norwegian/Swedish/Finnish people can't be nationalists solely because of the 'sami were here first' meme.

Is the big catch that makes the difference here that samis also were/are white, and therefore we whose ancestry were not participating in sami culture nor heritage able to be nationalists?

Then you're a civic nationalist. It's a multiculturalist/multiethnic ideology that has never worked. This is cuckservativism.

kek

why are burgers so retarded?

Funny that i missed that part.

Kikes get to claim a land that they lost 1800 years ago. Top lel.

how? is it that easy? I am down to move to Norway but AFAIK it is very hard to get citizenship even though I am Norwegian by blood.

Common blood is the most important part of the nation. Without it you have a joke of a populated area desperately trying to convince itself that it is a unified nation.

England as a nation was founded in 1066, it's actual history as a white land dates back to B.C. times
it was founded in already inhabited lands with its own culture by people outcasted from white nations
we were overwhelmingly native american until 300 years ago, and for a much longer time period
no, read it again. i said being a black nationalist in Germany is just as bad as being a white nationalist in America
there is nothing wrong with being an American nationalist. only stops making sense when you bring race into it

We killed the natives.
>i-israelis can be nationalist
Yeah, they also killed the natives. Moreover, they are no longer even close to the original conquerors. They've racemixed themselves into oblivion.

We are in the position of israelis. "It's ours because we fucking said so".

how is white nationalism even a thing?

"white" was never a nation, the whole racial thing was gin'd up by fat retards in america.

In poland there's polish nationalism and we've had a nation for a thousand years. In america there was just a bunch of immigrants from all over the place and niggers.

>why can't an American be an American nationalist
HE CAN. thats what ive been saying! he just cant be a white nationalist or a black nationalist

I cant be a Slovenian nationalist because Romans were here first.

>Flag
>says berbers and kurds are a nation
Kill yourself antifa scum

Kurdish Turks are a nation.

If Turks were a minority in some empire they would still be a nation.

>you uses to

>200 years of history relegated to "used to"

>Expecting anyone to believe this horse shit

No

Daily reminder that the choice is between national and international socialism, and "civic nationalism" refers to the latter

Dicksucking commies, your place is on /ic/, Sup Forums, /lit/, and /lgbt/

White European immigrants who built the country.

You dont expect them to divide themselves on Italians, Germans, Poles etc?

All of the Founding Fathers were white nationalists you moron.

Kurds are not a nation mr Suljeman Hadjibi

>it was founded in already inhabited lands

But there was no nation. There were hundreds of scattered waring tribes, but it was whites who built America and it was whites that America was built for.

Is it difficult to understand? Whites are an ethnic group in a multiethnic Empire. They will certainly be a minority in this century. White Americans are a people. A people have a right to self determination.

>I as a scandinavian have almost nothing in common with dirty slavs for example


No mohammed you have nothing in common with whites.

No, we were overwhelmingly white. Natives were still Sioux, Cheyenne, Apache. Thier own nations until the 19th century. Even our Declaration of Independence shits all over them. They weren't Americans, but confederate tribes living on soil we either bought or conquered.

Actually he is a shitskin my German bro.

They are on here trying to correct the record. You will find them bashing Slavs while defending Kurds, Turks, Syrians, Afganis

Who the fuck are you to tell a white person that they cannot be a white nationalist in his own country?

200 years ago America had way less than 25 million blacks. In fact 20-30 million blacks are mentioned in old racist songs from the 50˙s and 60˙s

Just 50 years ago America was 85%+ white

This is so fucking right. Don't understand how half of Sup Forums doesn't understand this.

>judaism
>claim on holy lands because of some 2000+ year old history
lolno
if we're going that way half of Europe is Italy's rightful clay and the other half should be long to mongolia

Another shitskin,

Whites built the country. For 300 years the country was mostly white and for the first 150 years blacks were nothing but farm animals.

you already said this before. arriving to the land and giving it a new name does not equal creating the land. and no, it was no whites who built the new America, it was whites and blacks and asians and latinos
>native americans weren't americans
because his country isn't white

You would if Portuguese were a minority in their own country.

A wild Jamal.

Oooga booga whitey we wuz Americanzs n shiiet. We built dis country with cotton

Ah, I thought you were trying to say this was 18th and 19th century. Which 25 million people all together in the 18th century would be quite a damn stretch.

>we don't want our grandchildren black
You Should've thought about that before buying us thousands of niggers from our colonies.

He is not a portugese. He is either mixed race or a full shitskin. Take a look at his country and see how white it is

>it was no whites who built the new America, it was whites and blacks and asians and latinos
>latinos

I could let the Chinese inclusion slide a bit but not the latinos. Fuck out here with revisionism.

We can always send you back.

>You Should've thought about that before buying us thousands of niggers from our colonies.

>a pled to cosmic justice

Doesn't work like that.

take out latinos if you wish, the point still stands

No they are not my dear burger. Erdogan sharted on nationalism but 20 years ago things were much different

According to Ataturk nationalism there are only turks in turkey, nothing else. If you live in this country and a citizen, you are a turk. If you say you are not a turk, you fuck off. It was forbidden to speak k*rdish and to deny being a turk. Thanks to liberals who supported erdogan (they said nationalism is fascism) this is no longer the case

Your only chance of a united nation is this. United under being American, irrelevant of the color of the skin. Identity politics should be outlawed, calling people white, black, mexican etc should be outlawed and everyone has to accept being american. Those who say otherwise should be deported immediately. That's the only way a racemixed nation can unite(same as turkey)

>Blacks built the new country

Yet all their cities are falling apart. More like whites built a city 50 years ago, then shitskins moved in and ruined it.

So white man had to build another city and shitskins followed him

But somehow strong and mighty Muslim man are bad for invading Europe and America. Pls leave faggot, you were the original refugees.

No, they didn't create the land, they created the nation. FFS, what is your autistic obsession with who first stepped foot on which blade of grass thousands of years ago?

>and no, it was no whites who built the new America, it was whites and blacks and asians and latinos

You do realize that before the immigration and nationality act of 1965 the vast majority of this country was white? And what the fuck is the "new America"? The multicultural demographic abomination aimed at certain destruction that our founders never in a million years would have wanted for this country?

>because his country isn't white

Really? Sweden isn't a white country? Please kill yourself.