That remains to be seen, if we end up in a situation where we're still in the EU but the media and government claim we're out of it, which is what we're heading for with this "soft Brexit", then it will literally have been better for Ed Miliband to have won the 2015 election because then there would at least be a sliver of a chance that we could still leave the EU properly instead of the Tory voodoo that's about to be performed on us
Kevin Hall
Here is my response to that. Feel free to post it whenever you see that argument posted.
So, this is how the debate reads so far. I kid you not, it's practically verbatim:
Remainers (desperately clutching on to the Brexit baby despite the other parent's wishes) "WTF? How could you all be so racist?"
Leavers "We voted Brexit, now we would like to start negotiating trade deals and access to the single market without free movement of people like so many other countries have"
Remainers "But it's not possible! We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"
Leavers "The people have spoken, and we should respect that and try not to water it down or subvert the process in any way"
Remainers "And do that how exactly?"
Leavers "As was made clear in the campaign, we don't want to have any controls imposed on us by the EU, this includes free movement of people, and we should also have access to the single market without free movement of people like lots of other countries do, we should start negotiations as soon as possible, but I'm sure you understand that revealing every detail and giving a running commentary of your negotiations puts you at a serious disadvantage, thus putting the economy, and by extension the British people at a disadvantage, and I'm sure you don't want that"
Remainers "But it's not possible, all of the big banks, politicians, businesses and other people with vested interest have told us so"
Leavers "It is possible, like we have said, so many other countries have good trade deals with the EU, there is no reason why we should not be able to, as such a close neighbour geographically and culturally, and as a huge exporter."
Remainers "But the EU wont give us a good trade deal, they will try and give us a punitive trade deal as a warning to other countries that might want to leave"
Leavers "Why would we want to be part of an organization that has to threaten it's members into staying?"
Remainers "Stop being racist"
Nicholas Johnson
Have you ever met Peter Hitchens? Such as being at the same event as him, listening to him debate somewhere, etc.
Wyatt Rodriguez
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Liam Rogers
Someone go that website, I aint going there.
Daniel Walker
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Bentley Ross
>access to the single market without free movement of people like so many other countries have what other countries have this?
Lucas Lopez
404 could not be found
Wyatt White
No because any stitch up would be widely reported and leave an even angrier and possibly larger base of leavers that would otherwise just be sat around moaning about steal taxes under Ed and a triumphant left.
That's before you consider the referendums effect on Trump and in future other EU elections.
Jose Foster
>We must be, mad >LITERALLY MAD
Logan Morales
See: I'm asking because I remember a while ago someone mentioned having met with him on several occasions, and I cannot remember whether it was yourself or someone else. It's not because I want to call you a "Hitchenite" or kiss your arse (the only two extremes I've seen here)
Gavin Watson
I've never met him in person, no, I think you're thinking of the old tripfag John Constantine who had some books signed by him
>any stitch up would be widely reported Yeah, sure
Matthew Reed
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Dylan Thomas
I get why you are scared, what with David Davis saying that the British people want to be in the single market, which is confusing since most of the people who voted voted out of the EU, which you can only take to mean leaving any controls they may wish to impose on us, like having free movement of people imposed on us, but here is the thing: the conservatives at the moment have a very healthy lead, and if the general election was held today it would become even healthier, that is partly because Jeremy Corbyn is completely feckless but also because Theresa May has thus far been a tough talker on brexit, she has said that she does want to completely leave the EU, even if it means some kind of transitional stage, the moment that they say "we are also going to be keeping free movement of people, one of the most hated parts of the EU btw" the media, especially the kind of papers that tory voters read will have an absolute fucking field day, and UKIP, providing they have gotten their act together by then will be able to split their vote like nether before. And the conservatives know this - and they are desperate, absolutely fucking desperate to nip UKIP in the bud and never have to deal with them again, Cameron was so desperate to do this that he called the referendum that he thought he was going to win. So don't under estimate the Conservatives willingness to do anything to kill UKIP.
Leo Long
>paedostani is allergic to high velocity lead
James Cruz
Do you remember his tripcode off hand? If so I'll look through the archives.
Nolan King
I SEE 100'S OF QTS EVERYDAY AND I DON'T GET TO FUCK ANY OF THEM
Lucas Cook
I said access. Not being a member. The EU doesn't just trade with it's self.
Noah Morris
>Yeah, sure
It's big news. Nick Cleggs beaming face as he announces victory for staying in the single market with no concessions.
Jose Taylor
you've only just got here and you're already ruining the thread, congratulations
Gavin Anderson
You're the worst tripfag.
Noah Ramirez
I have no food in the house but I'm scared of getting mugged walking to the shop in the dark, full of thugs here desu.
Wyatt Scott
Here is a similar tripcode if you want to piss him off #tP.Vo-'\
Samuel Hughes
Just pop round to nanna's and do the horizontal Charleston, she's waiting for you. Take a Glenn Miller record and some Parma Violets and she'll do everything
Adrian Davis
Order takeaway.
Liam Fisher
Order a cheeky garlic bread.
Brandon Fisher
Not as bad as autists who constantly complain about him when he's not shitposting.
Ignore people when they're shitposting, respond when they're having regular discussion. Not a hard rule to follow.
Zachary Jenkins
S-sorry l-lads
Jordan Morgan
>Ishtar Ostaria
Gee who would have guessed
Carson Jackson
Ordering a Domino's lads. Any recommendations? I'm thinking:
>Pepperoni Passion >Personal 7" >Classic Crust
>1 Potato Wedges
>Garlic & Herb Big Dip
>Ben & Jerry's - Cookie Dough S'Wich Up (500ml tub)
Do note that I've not had dinner for the past 3 days.
Ethan Anderson
I can't have this anymore since I turned vegan but I still remember this pizza fondly
Double Decadence base BBQ sauce Plain cheese topping
Noah Allen
Lads what do you think about Blaire White? I think she's decently red pilled for a tranny tbqh
Ben and Jerry's are libtards mate. I won't be buying any of their icecream again.
Juan Nguyen
and diet coke
Nathaniel Smith
I saw a few vids and she seems alright.
Leo Green
Google is run by jews, sometimes you just have to accept that not everything is the way it should be and not be an absolutist.
Jaxon Nguyen
>Dominos
Jayden Ramirez
Reminder that it was the Labour government of 1945-1951 that did the most to combat communism out of all of our governments in history.
>nth for PATRIOTIC SOCIALISM
Carter Rodriguez
>Vegan
Adrian Jones
>she
Tyler White
They've already killed UKIP, in fact 2015 proved that they always could have when an election comes around, and never should have worried. Remind Tory-to-UKIP defectors that Labour might win unless they come home to the blue party that hates them and everything they stand for instead of the red party that hates them and everything they stand for and they'll come crawling back
You are really overestimating just how much the media is willing to trash May I reckon
They're smarter than that. Remainers will never hail any part of "Brexit" a victory, don't be so naive to think that they'd let slip that they're winning
Shame about the later fifties eh?
Lucas Jenkins
Reminder that it was the Labour government, that more than any other party did it's bit to forever marginalise the white demographic in the 1990's.
Eli Scott
fuck I want one now but the price of it is ridiculous. I could eat for a week for the price of one order
Christian Wood
I really don't want to use Google but none of its competitors compare
Adam Gutierrez
I know. I know. There is still plenty of junk food that is vegan though, you would be surprised.
Bentley Thompson
>vegan i didnt know you were homosexual
Kayden Watson
>He doesn't live in a safe, wealthy street in the centre of his city
It's like you want to be attacked.
Ian Powell
This.
I hope at some point social media and tech companies that are actually not propaganda machines rise up and usurp facebook, google, twitter etc. Ones that don't censor """fake news""" and users naughty messages.
Tyler Miller
Why don't you eat meat lad?
Anthony Hughes
>They've already killed UKIP But it will come back if they fuck Brexit up.
Ian Murphy
People will know if they've been screwed. They knew for 40 years I'm sure they'll know when it's so blatant.
>living in a city
horrifying
Nicholas Gutierrez
You're the one who's into vintage beef amirite? Nice and cured
David Gonzalez
>Are you talking about my nan?
Anthony Perez
why the fuck would you pay to live in those shitty apartments? Only time I've lived in a city centre was a college in Oxford.
Kayden Morris
>Living in the country in your twenties
You better have a big inheritance, farm, or online business, my friend. Otherwise, enjoy your penurious future, homework, or hideous commute!
Cooper Price
2015 election happened under the promise that a referendum would be held, that was the main reason that people who would have otherwise voted UKIP, voted for the Conservative party. If they see that they are not holding their promise on the referendum then people will not respond well to that. It is the people in working class communities who are most affected by the sharp end of globalist policies, since it is they who have their labour devalued by low skilled migrants, and they are not stupid, no matter what the media might tell you, they know this, they know what the free movement of people means for them, it means employers don't have to treat them as well, and they vote accordingly. They voted Tory in 2015 because it was their most realistic chance of getting a referendum. If they see that decision not being upheld then they will loose faith in the established parties, stop voting tactically and just vote for whoever they agree with the most.
Perhaps I am being optimistic, but if you have no hope it is difficult to find the motivation to do anything.
Levi Green
Who is going clubbing tonight lads
Parker Ramirez
How can we fix this?
Oliver Jones
>I earn 50k! >spend 30k just to exist in London
>I earn 30k! >spend 10k to not live in a shithole
Who's winning in this example?
Grayson Rogers
I am mate but don't get too excited you need to save it up for your post sunday dinner incestfest. If she starts rubbing now you might even have some moisture to work with by then
Brayden Rodriguez
>They knew for 40 years I'm sure they'll know when it's so blatant They didn't even know when they joined
>Oh it's not any sort of union it's okay it's just a single market, no worries >Benn & Powell: Wake up you fucking morons, here is absolute proof that its intent is to remove British sovereignty and-- >Oh guess we have our great single market with no expansion of powers now lol
No it wasn't, it was fear over a Labour-SNP coalition, the rest is fair enough I suppose, but this "If X happens they'll lose faith in the Tories" meme is so tiring
Off up the chippy, any of you Redditors want anything?
Jonathan Sanders
My birthday is on Monday so i'm going out on the weekend
Cameron Rogers
If you weren't slightly jealous, I suspect you wouldn't have needed to mention Oxford. As it happens, I did my MSt. at Balliol, and apartments in Oxford are roundly awful, quite unlike Edinburgh.
Charles Martin
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Aaron Fisher
>but if you have no hope it is difficult to find the motivation to do anything
YKTD has no hope and is a worthless neet. So your thesis is sound.
Ryder Cruz
Stop speaking
Bentley King
>I earn 30k! >spend 10k to not live in a shithole T.slough,luton or staines
Liam Thomas
And was that fear unjustified? Would you have preferred a Labour-SNP coalition to Cameron?
Parker Jones
Just the only 'smart' city centre I've lived in, and the point was that you are overpaying for what you get in city centres. Edinburgh is a shithole though.
Samuel Howard
If Donald Drumpf doesn't actually get the presidency because of the recount or whatever it'd be yet another blow to my hope desu
Leo Wood
Had the first referendum been run today it would have got btfo against the now EU.
Xavier Jenkins
Just to preface this: I am not judging anyone, this is just my feelings on it, and I understand that some people do eat meat.
I am vegan because I feel that if I don't need to eat meat or use animal products, then I shouldn't. I am fortunate enough that I can get all of my vitamins, minerals and protein from non animal sources, since I live in an advanced society where food technology has progressed far enough. If I was not in such a society, I would eat meat, if I was trapped on a dessert island I wouldn't let my self die just eating coconuts. Also I get physically repulsed at the idea of eating meat, it just makes me sick thinking about it, same with dairy stuff now.
I am perfectly happy feeding my cats all the meat they want though, they don't have the option.
Joshua Brooks
Bet you can't wait to struggle with those support hose and yell sweet nothings in her ear eh lad
Noah Moore
Because those are the only places outside of central London?
Easton Morgan
I finally did it lads. Today I sparked a conversation with the qt girl from work at the bus stop. I think it went great, I actually made her laugh a bit and we chatted about lots a shit for some time.
I was actually surprised by myself, I either have the confidence of a Chad, or the confidence of an autist who has no idea of social interaction.
Problem is, while talking I got a boner, despite the fact she is only a 6, and that's mostly because I have a crush on her, I think others would rate her a 5, and I actually felt a bit of jizz drizzle out of my dick onto my pants.
Adrian Morales
Edinburgh city center is lovely bar the people.
Ian Young
I think more people were thinking about the referendum.
>MAY ON SUICIDEWATCH! >ENERGY AT LEVELS THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE >BTFO
Owen Myers
>confidence of a Chad, or the confidence of an autist who has no idea of social interaction. There is no practical difference - fake it till you make it.
Brits are no strangers to war. After all, we've been fighting for as long as we can remember. War is all we know. In the past, we fought for King. We fought for Queen. We fought for Country. But all that changed after V-Day. For 70 years, we've been fighting for our very survival against inhuman, subversive monsters. But it is a fight we cannot continue. Britain faces extinction, unless we end this war now.
Private: so why Israel Sergeant? Why not just destroy Brussels?
Brussels is the one place they puppet. It's not the true source.
Private: heard there's a shitload of Jews there sir Sergeant: more like ten shitloads.
We had hoped the brexit vote would decimate the Jew. But they survived. And have returned, stronger than ever. They've brought with them a force that can Destroy entire nations. Even America, our last beacon of hope through all these dark days, is now at risk. Soon we'll have nothing left to defend. And that means we have only one option: attack. Men what I ask of you now is not an easy thing, but it is necessary. If we are to survive. If we are to live long enough to see the seasons change, our children grow and experience a time of peace that we have never known, then we must now take this fight to the Jew! We will go to where they live and where they breed and we will destroy them! This is the day we take the battle to the heart of the enemy. This is the day that we correct the course of human history! This is the day that we ensure our survival as a nation! Soldiers of the United Kingdom my fellow Brits, go forth and bring back the hope of Britain!!
Isaiah Hernandez
>yes lets have the guy who is a good friend to the President-elect be the Ambassador to the USA >we swear this can't go badly >BASED NIGE XD
Andrew Russell
M A D M A N
But seriously though, that was very undiplomatic of him.
Luis Martinez
>not the vast majority of UK citizens, who find the man a xenophobic, hypocritical bore of the highest order. >the vast majority fucking lefties
Leo Nelson
What's a decent cheap smartphone for an elderly woman?
Robert Murphy
>didn't start growing facial hair til 19 >hair started thinning at 22
What did God mean by this?
Brayden King
Ask Meme Merchant
Adam Williams
You can't fool me Sharia May :^)
FARAGE CONFIRMED MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN BRITISH POLITICS
BEING DIPLOMATIC IS FOR CUNTS
TRUMP TRAIN IS CRASHING THROUGH BRITISH POLITICS WITH NO SURVIVORS
